The championship race is opened...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capirex @ Jun 5 2006, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>True!! i want loris to win it too. but every one has his choice!

But what a season we have this year...Rossi is on hot heels ( the following 3 races are rossi's land), Hayden is constant (can he win other race than laguna seca?) Loris is on good shape ( he proved he can keep up with rossi, but can ducati and bridgestone match yamaha and michelin?) Melandri is the underdog... you never know when he can strike, Dani...well he's fast he's learning, he's up there and stoner ( he is good enough to win races, but will be allowed by rossi?)
i don't want to forget sete but i still can't see him winning a race, not yet at least...

So...Rossi? ...Hayden?....Loris?.... Dani?... Stoner...what races are going to be... Can't wait!!

Out of all those you mention, and a couple of others mingeling in the top 5 ocationally, who do you think will be on the top most of the time in the remaining races? Thats whats going to decide the championship.
The problem for someone else to win but Rossi is that there is no singel #2 it's 4 of them, thats why they all are going to fail.
We will see the hondas and the ducaties fighting each other, loosing points to each other.

That said aything can happen. More trouble, injuries, freak accidents and so on, but the ods are still strongly in Rossis favor.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capirex @ Jun 5 2006, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I didn't mean to generalize. I respect everyone opinion but i want mine opinions to respected aswell. With that p.s. i wanted to avoid any response of a rossi's fan that might have sounded like this: " Rossi is the best... He'll win the championship by a mile, etc etc!!"
No offence to anybody.
I'm sorry that might sounded generalized!!

Okay, apology accepted. I'm sorry too if I sounded harsh or if I might have offended you. Peace?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jun 5 2006, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The problem for someone else to win but Rossi is that there is no singel #2 it's 4 of them, thats why they all are going to fail.
Sad but true.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jova @ Jun 5 2006, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Can Hayden win a race this season, outside of America?

Yes. You can see him improving now. Last year he got the consistency he wanted, now he`s edging closer to race wins. Look out at his strong tracks.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jova @ Jun 5 2006, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Will Michael Schumacher make another appereance? I wonder who gave him the ticket?

Ducati own Italy and Italy alone. They won`t show off as much anywhere else. Obviously I can`t be sure but if I was Schuey, I wouldn`t be going to Valencia, to ride a motorcycle at speed with thousands of drunk Alonso fans armed with whatever they can throw only a few meters away

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jova @ Jun 5 2006, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Will a Aussie win a race this season in 125, 250 or MotoGP?

West if it rains, podium for sure, race win maybe. Stoner only if Pedrosa, Hayden, Rossi, Melandri and Capirossi all crash. A good rookie but not at their level.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Jun 6 2006, 05:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The good news is you couldn't have picked any nicer racers to be this season's protagonists.

Biaggi`s gone and I ain`t complaining
As for Stoner, well that Mugello smash wasn`t what I`d call "Protagonistic"

Leading test times - Mugello:

1. Marco Melandri ITA Fortuna Honda 1min 49.75 secs
2. Nicky Hayden USA Repsol Honda Team 1min 50.01 secs
3. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team 1min 50.54 secs
4. Colin Edwards USA Camel Yamaha Team 1min 50.65 secs
5. Valentino Rossi ITA Camel Yamaha Team 1min 50.67 secs
6. Sete Gibernau SPA Ducati Marlboro Team 1min 50.70 secs
7. Makoto Tamada JPN Konica Minolta Honda 1min 50.71 secs
8. John Hopkins USA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1min 50.73 secs
9. Loris Capirossi ITA Ducati Marlboro Team 1min 50.77 secs
10. Kenny Roberts USA Team Roberts 1min 50.80 secs
11. Chris Vermulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1min 50.90 secs
12. Shinya Nakano JPN Kawasaki Racing Team 1min 51.43 secs
13. Toni Elias SPA Fortuna Honda 1min 51.69 secs

Yamaha is iproving...( watch colin's times) Honda in their ussual pace...Ducati... well they keep a low profile

It's not impossible for Rossi, but he needs race wins and could do with the others to keep getting places from each other, and of course the M1 to stay reliable.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Jun 6 2006, 05:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sad but true.

I'm a declared Rossi fan for several reasons, but it doesn't think the world falls appart if he doesn't win. But regardless of preference I'd say it's not so sad that the best man win. Boring maybe, but not sad. What is sad is when someone win a single season out of coincidences and calculations and not by hart and skill. We had two such seasons in GP racing around the century turnover between Dohan and Rossi and that was rather sad. That's why the one person I don't like to win this year is Hayden, that is, unless he starts winning races. Capirossi, Pedrosa and Melandri all have the skill to win races, if not as a champion as long as Rossi is around.

I meant sad that these four challengers (Hayden, Capirossi, Melandri and Pedrosa) will ultimately fail because there is no clear no. 2 and each will hurt eachother. Not sad that Rossi will win, but sad that they are practically destined to lose.

capirex one think i will say is when u ask where was rossi at le mans then id say well he was a mile in front and nothing was gunna go past him,
i thought le mans was one of his strongest races until wat happend, he was strong fast and riding really well, its gunna be hard to get bak on the top but hes gunna be really trying hard to reduce those points in the next few races, then onto laguna where he will lose points.. but wot a bloody great race muggy was phew thats wot we need and like i say..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capirex @ Jun 5 2006, 04:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>quoted for the truth!
I would chose Loris over Rossi to win the championship. I would love to become real: capirossi champion!
p.s. for Rossi's fan: I's my opinion you can't change it so don't try.I know you think rossi is the best and the greatest etc etc. I know you belive rossi is unvincible. Just let me alone with this arguments and let's wait and see what happens. And if in the end Rossi triumphs i'll congratulate you as his fan. Until then respect everyone opinion and choice!!
yeah. don't worry bout them rossi lover's. if they can't accept a possible truth, then let them go worship with other's of their kind on a damn exclusive rossi lovin site. u can say what u like here!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Alex @ Jun 5 2006, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>1 or 2 more races and he'll be back at the top.
naaaa

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Jun 5 2006, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The best shot is for Vermeulen at home
this is a bit of a strech, don't ya think Ooost?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jun 5 2006, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>but the ods are still strongly in Rossis favor.
i would'nt say strongly in his favor.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jun 5 2006, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The problem for someone else to win but Rossi is that there is no singel #2 it's 4 of them, thats why they all are going to fail.
We will see the hondas and the ducaties fighting each other, loosing points to each other.
this theory only work's if rossi starts to win race after race. i don't think this going to happen.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Jun 6 2006, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'> this is a bit of a strech, don't ya think Ooost?
You took Stoner's name out of my quote so don't forget him. And yes, it is a big stretch. That's why I said it's very unlikely that an Aussie will win a Grand Prix this season.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Jun 6 2006, 04:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes, along with being very strong at Laguna Seca I believe Hayden will be a strong candidate for a win in Assen, Sachsenring and Phillip Island. Yes, Marlboro. No, sorry. The best shot is for Stoner or Vermeulen at home and I think Rossi, Hayden, Capirossi, Melandri and Pedrosa will be too strong there. Although I am pulling for Stoner to get one win this season.

Stoner won't win at Phillip Island ... Yes, he does carry the Australian flag, but truth is that he hasn't really raced on Phillip Island much in his career ...
Vermuelen has the experience on the track because of his involvment in aussie superbikes AND world SS and SBK ... Stoner on the other hand, moved to Britain when he was 15 and hasnt had as much time on P.I. that Chris has... so assuming that because it is his home track that he will do well is a bit weak....
then again, it is a fast track and Stoner is suited to it.... and so is Hayden, as you said, Ooost.
There was alot of pressure on Stoner last year at P.I. to perform, which is why he was out front. Any other year and Stoner has been toward the middle of the field, from memory his best result there was a third with KTM in the 125's
.... all my mates were giving me .... when he fell off ..... imagine what he would have copped.

And the Aussie crowd wouldn`t help either. We ain`t Spanish. If Pedrosa crashed in Spain there would be a lot of tears and knashing of teeth from the crowd. If Stoner crashes at PI we`re like "...., he`ll feel that in the morning. Where`d I put that beer?" we`re not really a GP loving nation as a whole. So without the crowd willing to die for him and experience at the track, I don`t think Stoner will have much of an advantage at PI. As for CV, he might be stronger than usual but the reality is he still hasn`t learned how to ride a GP bike like Edwards and Hayden have, and that will take some time. The other element holding him back is the Shitzuki

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jun 7 2006, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The other element holding him back is the Shitzuki

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Jun 6 2006, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yeah. don't worry bout them rossi lover's. if they can't accept a possible truth, then let them go worship with other's of their kind on a damn exclusive rossi lovin site. u can say what u like here! Now that's what I'm talkin about right there frosty my friend!




<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Jun 7 2006, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You took Stoner's name out of my quote so don't forget him. And yes, it is a big stretch. That's why I said it's very unlikely that an Aussie will win a Grand Prix this season.CV just won't have the speed at PI nor the experience of racing at the front of a gp, and Stoner will crash in the attempt, at that stage in the championship he'll have nothing to lose, except the front. Stoner needs to use his head a bit more.



<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jun 6 2006, 08:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ducati own Italy and Italy alone. They won`t show off as much anywhere else. Obviously I can`t be sure but if I was Schuey, I wouldn`t be going to Valencia, to ride a motorcycle at speed with thousands of drunk Alonso fans armed with whatever they can throw only a few meters awayI wouldn't be so sure Richo, both Loris and sete made big gains in corner speed at Mugello, something that was always a problem for the ducatis. Loris won in spain in 2003, I was there. Don't write the boys off just cos they're not on italian soil, they're going to be there or thereabout for the rest of the year, well Loris anyway.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jun 7 2006, 09:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And the Aussie crowd wouldn`t help either. We ain`t Spanish. If Pedrosa crashed in Spain there would be a lot of tears and knashing of teeth from the crowd. If Stoner crashes at PI we`re like "...., he`ll feel that in the morning. Where`d I put that beer?" we`re not really a GP loving nation as a whole. So without the crowd willing to die for him and experience at the track, I don`t think Stoner will have much of an advantage at PI.

If you Aussies had cried every time Stoner had crashed you would all be dead now, dehydrated!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skidmark @ Jun 7 2006, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Stoner will crash in the attempt, at that stage in the championship he'll have nothing to lose, except the front. Stoner needs to use his head a bit more.

i read something about the michelin Tyre Boss not being happy about Stoner during qualifying sessions .... something about not being able to use the qualifying tyres right and crashing on quite a few attempts ... said the same thing " he needs to use his head a bit more"

I've read some of that stuff too, Katt. From my understanding he doesn't even use them anymore because he can't seem to figure them out and just puts on a soft race tire.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jun 6 2006, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That's why the one person I don't like to win this year is Hayden, that is, unless he starts winning races. Capirossi, Pedrosa and Melandri all have the skill to win races, if not as a champion as long as Rossi is around.

Especially when hayden has only lead a gp for one lap this season

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skidmark @ Jun 7 2006, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I wouldn't be so sure Richo, both Loris and sete made big gains in corner speed at Mugello, something that was always a problem for the ducatis. Loris won in spain in 2003, I was there. Don't write the boys off just cos they're not on italian soil, they're going to be there or thereabout for the rest of the year, well Loris anyway.

I was actually talking about Ducati showing off with their paint jobs and legions of fans making Ducati ad`s that martians could see and letting Schuey hold on to Mamola while he warms the 2 seat Duke up. Not the racing. If Ducati can beat Honda and Yamaha in Japan I belive they`ve got the goods to be competitive at every circuit.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Jun 8 2006, 01:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I've read some of that stuff too, Katt. From my understanding he doesn't even use them anymore because he can't seem to figure them out and just puts on a soft race tire.

Not sticking up for Crashey, If I had my way he`d be on a Dunlop sattelite Suzuki, sponsored by Enron. But a pole position so early in his career can`t have been bad qualifying work.