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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
I challenge anyone here, journalists, racers, spectators, and anyone interested to provide evidence to prove or offer substantial evidence that Marc Marquez is guilt of deliberately provoking the incident that eventually led Valentino Rossi to use his machine as a weapon to run his fellow rival off the racing surface.
I believe we are watching a modern day Salem Witch hunt, a modern day McCarthyist Red Scare, a modern day rush to war, an episode where accusations equate to guilt where no substantial voices are standing up to register their disagreement against the Tyranny of Yellow.
The case for Marc Marquez:
So far the "evidence" has quite peculiarly started after Valentino Rossi made baseless accusations. Rossi is the Joseph McCarthy our day.
So far the "evidence" presented has surrounded Race Director Mike Webb's assertion that he believed Marc's 'intention' was false despite offering anything substantive, a rather underwhelming reliance on faith (while of course believing Rossi).
So far Race Direction has explicitly stated they did not issue a ride-through penalty because of the potential impact on "points", that is, they made their decision NOT based on SAFETY! But rather allowed a dangerous rider who was in a fit of rage to continue to circulate on a hot track. Pause and think about this for a moment; they allowed here a man to circulate while his judgment was hammered by the red myst. (Part of the rationale of issuing a ride-through is to refocus and make the rider aware that his on track behavior, being either negligent or reckless, must be rectified, in this case a deliberate action revealed that the perpetrator was not in a stable state of mind. Race Direction must always be inclined to err on the side of safety NOT championship points ramifications, besides clearly Rossi losing it meant he had violated Race Direction's first and paramount mission.)
So far some fans have engaged in microanalysis at the point of contact AFTER the perpetrator had committed his act of assault to then assign blame on Marquez. That is, people have tried to defend the perpetrator Rossi once Marc had been placed in the predicament of being cornered. His actions to evade Rossi's deliberate action of running him off is being used to exonerate the initial act of assault--namely Rossi using his vehicle to run a fellow participant off a stable surface.
So far many fans, journalist, and interested parties have thought it intuitive to placed blame on BOTH men, as if this is proof of impartiality. Accusing Marc must have "provoked" it too, while offering no evidence to support the claim. In effect they have blamed both the bully and the victim. Its an age old way to rationalize fault, but in fact it's flawed.
So far Rossi fans have rationalized that Rossi's actions were only reaction to Marquez' " provocation" and so he deserved it. Again, this has been based on zero evidence, all stemming first from Rossi himself, and second, imagined transgressions while battling for positions. But here is why this rationale is flawed, Its the classic notion that a girl provoked a .... for wearing a short skirt. Its victim shaming.
So far Marc's accusers have used the age of social media and highjacked spaces to change real social injustices and turned them on its head, in an attempt to further advance Marquez' supposed guilt and his role in the perceived injustice that led MotoGP to sanction Rossi. The rationale is that Marquez was guilty therefore Rossi was justify, and so it follows that the penalty should be reversed. Quite a stretch, though absolutely illogical.
So far I've seen no substantial mentioned of the RCVs role or technical aspects of Marc's pace to explain his initial pace, yet it's been a particular element of this year's season amongst the "experts" and heated forum discussion. I know because I've been a part of them. Marc's season has been absolutely defined by his difficulty with a stable race pace, spawning articles on the matter, with extensive dot connecting. Respected journalists have made many technical explanations to describe these anomalies and the 'decline ' of the RCV, the tires, fuel load, front end, grip, etc. yet it's all gone deff. If these technical deficiency existed, did they suddenly evaporate? And real or imagined, how did these technical deficiencies affect the rider in question, Marquez? If he couldn't win, and had difficulty stabilizing his pace was he obliged to pull over and let Rossi through? Of course not, and his determination was misinterpreted by an already mentality sleep deprived paranoia Rossi to retaliate in an act of deliberate violence.
So far we have seen no journalist take a stand, including our friend Kropo, to highlight Marquez's no fault until proven guilty or focus robustly on Rossi's henious act of violence. Again the outlets of public disclosure are allowing the Tyranny of Rossi to ruin yet another rider's reputation, which does have real personal repercussions in the man's life.
I challenge anyone to a debate, i reject that Marc Marquez is guilty of any infraction of rules or even the spirit of the rules for this incident.
I challenge anyone here, journalists, racers, spectators, and anyone interested to provide evidence to prove or offer substantial evidence that Marc Marquez is guilt of deliberately provoking the incident that eventually led Valentino Rossi to use his machine as a weapon to run his fellow rival off the racing surface.
I believe we are watching a modern day Salem Witch hunt, a modern day McCarthyist Red Scare, a modern day rush to war, an episode where accusations equate to guilt where no substantial voices are standing up to register their disagreement against the Tyranny of Yellow.
The case for Marc Marquez:
So far the "evidence" has quite peculiarly started after Valentino Rossi made baseless accusations. Rossi is the Joseph McCarthy our day.
So far the "evidence" presented has surrounded Race Director Mike Webb's assertion that he believed Marc's 'intention' was false despite offering anything substantive, a rather underwhelming reliance on faith (while of course believing Rossi).
So far Race Direction has explicitly stated they did not issue a ride-through penalty because of the potential impact on "points", that is, they made their decision NOT based on SAFETY! But rather allowed a dangerous rider who was in a fit of rage to continue to circulate on a hot track. Pause and think about this for a moment; they allowed here a man to circulate while his judgment was hammered by the red myst. (Part of the rationale of issuing a ride-through is to refocus and make the rider aware that his on track behavior, being either negligent or reckless, must be rectified, in this case a deliberate action revealed that the perpetrator was not in a stable state of mind. Race Direction must always be inclined to err on the side of safety NOT championship points ramifications, besides clearly Rossi losing it meant he had violated Race Direction's first and paramount mission.)
So far some fans have engaged in microanalysis at the point of contact AFTER the perpetrator had committed his act of assault to then assign blame on Marquez. That is, people have tried to defend the perpetrator Rossi once Marc had been placed in the predicament of being cornered. His actions to evade Rossi's deliberate action of running him off is being used to exonerate the initial act of assault--namely Rossi using his vehicle to run a fellow participant off a stable surface.
So far many fans, journalist, and interested parties have thought it intuitive to placed blame on BOTH men, as if this is proof of impartiality. Accusing Marc must have "provoked" it too, while offering no evidence to support the claim. In effect they have blamed both the bully and the victim. Its an age old way to rationalize fault, but in fact it's flawed.
So far Rossi fans have rationalized that Rossi's actions were only reaction to Marquez' " provocation" and so he deserved it. Again, this has been based on zero evidence, all stemming first from Rossi himself, and second, imagined transgressions while battling for positions. But here is why this rationale is flawed, Its the classic notion that a girl provoked a .... for wearing a short skirt. Its victim shaming.
So far Marc's accusers have used the age of social media and highjacked spaces to change real social injustices and turned them on its head, in an attempt to further advance Marquez' supposed guilt and his role in the perceived injustice that led MotoGP to sanction Rossi. The rationale is that Marquez was guilty therefore Rossi was justify, and so it follows that the penalty should be reversed. Quite a stretch, though absolutely illogical.
So far I've seen no substantial mentioned of the RCVs role or technical aspects of Marc's pace to explain his initial pace, yet it's been a particular element of this year's season amongst the "experts" and heated forum discussion. I know because I've been a part of them. Marc's season has been absolutely defined by his difficulty with a stable race pace, spawning articles on the matter, with extensive dot connecting. Respected journalists have made many technical explanations to describe these anomalies and the 'decline ' of the RCV, the tires, fuel load, front end, grip, etc. yet it's all gone deff. If these technical deficiency existed, did they suddenly evaporate? And real or imagined, how did these technical deficiencies affect the rider in question, Marquez? If he couldn't win, and had difficulty stabilizing his pace was he obliged to pull over and let Rossi through? Of course not, and his determination was misinterpreted by an already mentality sleep deprived paranoia Rossi to retaliate in an act of deliberate violence.
So far we have seen no journalist take a stand, including our friend Kropo, to highlight Marquez's no fault until proven guilty or focus robustly on Rossi's henious act of violence. Again the outlets of public disclosure are allowing the Tyranny of Rossi to ruin yet another rider's reputation, which does have real personal repercussions in the man's life.
I challenge anyone to a debate, i reject that Marc Marquez is guilty of any infraction of rules or even the spirit of the rules for this incident.
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