Suppo to leave Ducati after Valencia

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Nov 5 2009, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its possible, The "rift" between Stoner and Suppo is afterall a lot of speculation, and if anything it was Suppo that was in there batting for Stoner whilst he was away.
I find it intriguing and I really have no idea whether the implications for stoner are good or bad in respect to either ducati or honda.

I think suppo in general has been one of casey's greatest supporters but I did have a feeling and only a feeling that he was an unbeliever concerning the physical nature of casey's illness/episode.

As j4rno says suppo's personnel management skills in recent years would seem somewhat questionable but as you say he could be leaving because of a better offer from hrc rather than any dissatisfaction on ducati's or stoner's part.

Suppo to Honda paves the way for stoner to HRC??
Bayliss to replace Tardozzi??

There you go ill start these rumors.................

Very surprising news, indeed. The implications of the move has already sparked a bonfire of speculations.

Unless Ducati signs Rossi, Stoner would be mad to leave Ducati for Honda.

with suppo at honda, there is a greater chance stoner will go over to honda.

any why isnt the rift between hayden and suppo?? hmmmm naaah never eh??

and cant someone change jobs for more money??? naaaaaah never..... nothing is EVER based around money.

u bunch of pansies should join the desperate housewives club and ..... about each other.

Where does it say Suppo got booted by Ducati.
No where that I have seen !!!
I think Honda offered Suppo a crap load of money and he chose to leave Ducati for a new challenge and a bigger pay cheque.
Good luck to him.

I also think the rift between Stoner and Suppo is crap.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (alex29 @ Nov 6 2009, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Suppo to Honda paves the way for stoner to HRC??
Bayliss to replace Tardozzi??

There you go ill start these rumors.................

No chance, Bayliss quit racing because he (and his wife) was tired of living out of a suitcase.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (alex29 @ Nov 6 2009, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Suppo to Honda paves the way for stoner to HRC??

There you go ill start these rumors.................


Add this to your rumor ...... Stoner always idolized Doohan, perhaps he sees himself running the Repsol colours that Doohan once rode.





Actually I see the hiring of Suppo as a cure for the Puig problem There's two personalities that seem at a discord

Soon after Stoner suddenly decided to take a off for 3 races, Ducati tried to lure Lorenzo to join them with big money. They looked so desperately to want to sign with him as if Stoner were really ill and never came back. Lorenzo seemed to be seriously thinking of moving to them. I do not think he even pondered if he was offered the position to fill in Nicky’s side of garage. Stoner denied the rumor that there was the rift between him and Suppo. But, it is hard to tell what really happened at Ducati. Anyway, he will be a marketing director at HRC, so it will not preclude Stoner to move to them even if they did not get along.

Suppo had to leave Ducati after the mess of the failed attempt to sign Lorenzo -- which showed he was ready to dump a sick Stoner, having evidently lost all faith in him. I do not see Stoner following in his steps...

...maybe Lorenzo.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nuts @ Nov 6 2009, 02:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Where does it say Suppo got booted by Ducati.
No where that I have seen !!!
I think Honda offered Suppo a crap load of money and he chose to leave Ducati for a new challenge and a bigger pay cheque.
Good luck to him.

I also think the rift between Stoner and Suppo is crap.
I agree completely. If Preziozi's baby was the Desmosedici, then Suppo was the godfather, assuring that it was christened in Marlboro red. He was solely responsible for wresting the Philip Morris sponsorship away from Yamaha. I think if anything, his departure may be over the shoot out with the Marlboro man over the summer as opposed to supposed ructions with Casey. The guy is a marketing P/R genius; he could probably broker a Gary Glitter comeback tour, and simultaneously arrange its sponsorship and promotion from Mothercare.

IMO HRC are still reeling from the defection of Vale and the associated loss of his image rights. In releasing Nicky, they relinquished a slice of the American Pie. Right now, their number 1 rider, as popular as he may be in Spain, is renowned outside Iberia for his charisma bypass, having the personality of a hatstand, and worse still, has also ostensibly lost the ability to race. (Furthermore - Nicky looked a thousand times better in a pair of Gas jeans). Dani gets the holeshot every race weekend from his manager, then rocket planted firmly up his arse, does the same in the race, which is the only time he appears to be able to hit the front - but that seldom lasts beyond a few laps. Meanwhile Dovi is sinking in a turbulent sea of set up woes. Lucrative as Repsol are, the sponsors ain't exactly queueing up for spaces in either side of the garage.

Suppo is a great coup for a soulless technocracy as they currently are, who has the added advantage of having half the world's corporate motorsport players on speed-dial. Weren't there rumours associated with the return of Telefonica to Honda? Whatever, expect those Repsol belly pans to be bulging with additional sponsorship. As for being the first step in paving the way for Casey in 2011, it's entirely possible. I always found the red quite fetching, in fact it quite became her, but it remains to be seen what Adriana would look like in orange

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (alex29 @ Nov 6 2009, 01:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Suppo to Honda paves the way for stoner to HRC??
Bayliss to replace Tardozzi??

There you go ill start these rumors.................
you must be a steel panther fan!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nuts @ Nov 5 2009, 06:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Where does it say Suppo got booted by Ducati.
No where that I have seen !!!
I think Honda offered Suppo a crap load of money and he chose to leave Ducati for a new challenge and a bigger pay cheque.
Good luck to him.

I also think the rift between Stoner and Suppo is crap.

I think you're on top of this one Nuts.

Toby and Jules revealed that rumors around the paddock revealed that Repsol might be leaving Honda. Repsol only signed a one year contract with Honda and Livio Suppo is apparently one of the best marketing guys in the biz.

Looks like Honda may finally be parting with Repsol after nearly 15 years.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Nov 6 2009, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well, there you go. Honda are preparing the pit box for Stoner (?)

Will there be a bidding war for Stoner? Ducati ,then are in a corner because without him...............
.............................

May I suggest a special poll thread for who is signed for which team in 2011

What I would like to see

Yamaha :Lorenzo +Spies
Honda : Stoner + Melandri
Ducati: Rossi + Hayden
Suzuki : Pedrosa +Capirossi

Stoner and Melandri don't get along, but Stoner - Honda is logical




<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Nov 6 2009, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ohhh Yeahhhh, the season is really gonna be silly in a big way. You got me recalling
one of my inner conversations the other day that I forgot about. I was thinking
Stoner - as lead rider for Honda - with Magnetti electronics and - Ohlins shocks.
He'd tear the field up and Ducati would mostly have to be happy with the occasional
4-5-6 spots, and a long wait for it's next podium. Oh and the look on Pedrosa's face
upon announcements of his 2nd place standing in the team .... ....... priceless.
I can hear the bricks for the wall between garages going up even now.

Honda may be able to see that

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Nov 6 2009, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Add this to your rumor ...... Stoner always idolized Doohan, perhaps he sees himself running the Repsol colours that Doohan once rode.

Actually I see the hiring of Suppo as a cure for the Puig problem There's two personalities that seem at a discord


Puig brought both of them along and then put his money on Pedro - Nicky found out real quick that Honda has a short loyalty problem, and Pedro is going backwards against the top 3.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Nov 7 2009, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I agree completely. If Preziozi's baby was the Desmosedici, then Suppo was the godfather, assuring that it was christened in Marlboro red. He was solely responsible for wresting the Philip Morris sponsorship away from Yamaha. I think if anything, his departure may be over the shoot out with the Marlboro man over the summer as opposed to supposed ructions with Casey. The guy is a marketing P/R genius; he could probably broker a Gary Glitter comeback tour, and simultaneously arrange its sponsorship and promotion from Mothercare.

................................ Lucrative as Repsol are, the sponsors ain't exactly queueing up for spaces in either side of the garage.

Suppo is a great coup for a soulless technocracy as they currently are, who has the added advantage of having half the world's corporate motorsport players on speed-dial. Weren't there rumours associated with the return of Telefonica to Honda? Whatever, expect those Repsol belly pans to be bulging with additional sponsorship. As for being the first step in paving the way for Casey in 2011, it's entirely possible. I always found the red quite fetching, in fact it quite became her, but it remains to be seen what Adriana would look like in orange


Marlboro and Casey have had a public falling out, maybe (just maybe) the writing is on the wall for cigarette advertsing in motogp. It will happen. Maybe Suppo is engineering a smoke free sponsorship environment with Respol Honda with Stoner as the lead.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Nov 7 2009, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Stoner and Melandri don't get along, but Stoner - Honda is logical






Honda may be able to see that




Puig brought both of them along and then put his money on Pedro - Nicky found out real quick that Honda has a short loyalty problem, and Pedro is going backwards against the top 3.




Marlboro and Casey have had a public falling out, maybe (just maybe) the writing is on the wall for cigarette advertsing in motogp. It will happen. Maybe Suppo is engineering a smoke free sponsorship environment with Respol Honda with Stoner as the lead.
Where has any of this supposed problem with Marlboro ever came out to be true? I have yet to see anything beyond just speculation with this.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nuts @ Nov 6 2009, 04:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Where does it say Suppo got booted by Ducati.
No where that I have seen !!!
I think Honda offered Suppo a crap load of money and he chose to leave Ducati for a new challenge and a bigger pay cheque.
Good luck to him.

I also think the rift between Stoner and Suppo is crap.

They never give the boot publicly, they do things decently. But the real reason why Suppo goes, is simply that he is no more welcome to stay after the failed hunt for Lorenzo, which implicitly meant he had forsaken Stoner.
So he picks the best offer he gets, and he's off

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Nov 8 2009, 02:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Where has any of this supposed problem with Marlboro ever came out to be true? I have yet to see anything beyond just speculation with this.


It was in Aus MC NEws, Marlboro demanding apologies from Stoner for time off, there was also a bit of stink over cigarette advertising in the Australian papers. Stoner was hardly a fan of his sponsors.

The relationship has been reported as strained by the press here

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Nov 7 2009, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It was in Aus MC NEws, Marlboro demanding apologies from Stoner for time off, there was also a bit of stink over cigarette advertising in the Australian papers. Stoner was hardly a fan of his sponsors.

The relationship has been reported as strained by the press here
No ....! MCN they are real trustworthy right? I am sure Stoner could care less about his sponsors as long as the checks are coming in. In the article did they give a specific name of a representative,officer of the company, or did they just say marlboro? I might be more inclined to believe it if there is an actual person giving the statments.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Nov 7 2009, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It was in Aus MC NEws, Marlboro demanding apologies from Stoner for time off, there was also a bit of stink over cigarette advertising in the Australian papers. Stoner was hardly a fan of his sponsors.

The relationship has been reported as strained by the press here
As I said - contrary to supposed friction between Casey and Suppo, it is more likely that the animosity was between Livio and Maurizio Arrivabene. As opposed to attempting and failing to brokering the deal, as many on here have suggested, I'm sure Suppo was appalled and reviled by the big buck approach to Lorenzo during Stoners absence.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Nov 8 2009, 02:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As I said - contrary to supposed friction between Casey and Suppo, it is more likely that the animosity was between Livio and Maurizio Arrivabene. As opposed to attempting and failing to brokering the deal, as many on here have suggested, I'm sure Suppo was appalled and reviled by the big buck approach to Lorenzo during Stoners absence.
I am not necessarily a fan of suppo's, but he is not an ...... I find it hard to believe that the very publicly played out and on the face-of-it quite inept approach to lorenzo was entirely managed by him, and the direct quotes (yes rockgod in many attributable sources) from marlboro man requiring an apology from stoner did not impress me as a casey fan, and doubtless impressed casey even less. As you say it may have become apparent to livio that any future at ducati involved him being a lackey of a faceless phillip morris advertising executive, and one not blessed with uncommon insight since I would not have thought self-righteousness and flogging marlboros were very compatible. If livio stops smoking we can assume he was really pissed off.

I believe suppo was a strong supporter of stoner's in the past, I don't know but have a suspicion he didn't support him so strongly over his putative illness, and as I have said before I have absolutely no idea about the implications if any for stoner's future at ducati, honda or anywhere else. That said having had doubts myself I am bullish on casey's career prospects just at present and don't anticipate any lack of demand for his services post 2010.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Nov 8 2009, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I am not necessarily a fan of suppo's, but he is not an ...... I find it hard to believe that the very publicly played out and on the face-of-it quite inept approach to lorenzo was entirely managed by him, and the direct quotes (yes rockgod in many attributable sources) from marlboro man requiring an apology from stoner did not impress me as a casey fan, and doubtless impressed casey even less. As you say it may have become apparent to livio that any future at ducati involved him being a lackey of a faceless phillip morris advertising executive, and one not blessed with uncommon insight since I would not have thought self-righteousness and flogging marlboros were very compatible. If livio stops smoking we can assume he was really pissed off.

I believe suppo was a strong supporter of stoner's in the past, I don't know but have a suspicion he didn't support him so strongly over his putative illness, and as I have said before I have absolutely no idea about the implications if any for stoner's future at ducati, honda or anywhere else. That said having had doubts myself I am bullish on casey's career prospects just at present and don't anticipate any lack of demand for his services post 2010.


wait next contract time. stoner will be the highest paid of all the current riders.