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I don't see this as unreasonable speculation, valentino may well retire particularly if he wins the 2012 championship. If he goes on forever even he will eventually have gone on for too long and be unable to retire on a winning note.
 
As opposed to stoner's fake scaphoid problem, for which he clearly only had an operation to lend verisimilitude to his story
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. You guys really don't get the double standards thing, do you?



come on...you know the rider is just mentally weak or has lost competitiveness unless there is a surgery. Stoner will need a lactose liner surgery for his stomach for people(haters) to except that it really did give him a problem while racing
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of course the only way we would believe the leg injuries of Rossi/RDP, the collar bone injury on Pedrosa this year was because they had a doctor's note otherwise they can't have any pain or have their riding suffer.....Rossi will have his note soon enough for the shoulder.
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The funny thing is many of the people that say, for example, Rossi's should injury is just an excuse and is not real are the same people to move from a sportbike to a touring bike or intsall handle bar risers because their back/wrists get sore after riding for a little while......
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I don't see this as unreasonable speculation, valentino may well retire particularly if he wins the 2012 championship. If he goes on forever even he will eventually have gone on for too long and be unable to retire on a winning note.





He may or may not retire after 2 years time, i don't have any problem with the speculation Micheal but he is using the same tone which we all heard before especially after 2007 unless i misunderstood him.
 
come on...you know the rider is just mentally weak or has lost competitiveness unless there is a surgery. Stoner will need a lactose liner surgery for his stomach for people(haters) to except that it really did give him a problem while racing
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of course the only way we would believe the leg injuries of Rossi/RDP, the collar bone injury on Pedrosa this year was because they had a doctor's note otherwise they can't have any pain or have their riding suffer.....Rossi will have his note soon enough for the shoulder.
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The funny thing is many of the people that say, for example, Rossi's should injury is just an excuse and is not real are the same people to move from a sportbike to a touring bike or intsall handle bar risers because their back/wrists get sore after riding for a little while......
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I am absolutely sure that rossi has been inconvenienced by his shoulder injury, and was also completely impressed by the rapidity of his return from the broken leg, which hardly seemed to bother him at all. I do like to point out the inconsistency in attitude of some in the anti-stoner brigade though
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He may or may not retire after 2 years time, i don't have any problem with the speculation Micheal but he is using the same tone which we all heard before especially after 2007 unless i misunderstood him.

I guess my perspective is different, but I did not draw any implication that rossi would be retiring after 2 years because of failure with ducati. I would strongly favour him for the 2012 title, when everyone has to start from scratch in a new formula., which would seem likely to advantage those with the most developmental ability (and experience).
 
I agree. How dare anyone bring rossi into a good stoner hating thread
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Well, youre sarcasm are duly noted, but I know you agree that it is a bit tiresome when every tread here become infested by the stoner/rossi or now even Lorenzo/rossi flaming.

A good fight now and then is ok, hell it's fun, but Jumkie use every ....... possible and impossible occasion to bring in Rossi if anything negative is said about any other guy. It's very tiresome and the forum pay a price in reduced traffic.

If Jumkie were serious about chipping in he should start to behave in general on the forum, instad of writing a half harted Rossi history and stupid signature screams about chipping in. That would increase traffic and improve the quality of the forum.
 
Well, youre sarcasm are duly noted, but I know you agree that it is a bit tiresome when every tread here become infested by the stoner/rossi or now even Lorenzo/rossi flaming.

A good fight now and then is ok, hell it's fun, but Jumkie use every ....... possible and impossible occasion to bring in Rossi if anything negative is said about any other guy. It's very tiresome and the forum pay a price in reduced traffic.

If Jumkie were serious about chipping in he should start to behave in general on the forum, instad of writing a half harted Rossi history and stupid signature screams about chipping in. That would increase traffic and improve the quality of the forum.



What a load of absolute dribble. God knows how much yellow .... would be all over this forum without someone calling you lot to task.

I don't post here very often anymore for the very same reasons as you noted. This place is rider bashing heaven. It gets seriously pathetic.

But for you to lay the total blame on Jumkie is absolutely ridiculous.
 
I don't post here very often anymore for the very same reasons as you noted. This place is rider bashing heaven. It gets seriously pathetic.

But for you to lay the total blame on Jumkie is absolutely ridiculous.

I think jumkie is having a fairly prolonged revenge for nasturtiums cast at nicky hayden in the past. I actually agree with both you and babelfish, whom I respect, that the forum has degenerated . I don't think this thread was ruined by rossi being brought into it though, it was a gratuitous stoner bashing thread at its inception.
 
Rossi and RdeP both had leg breaks...one covered in the media thoroughly,one not so much.These are the extremes we`ll always face,get used to it ,its normality on THE forum and this is why we grow thick skins.
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What a load of absolute dribble. God knows how much yellow .... would be all over this forum without someone calling you lot to task.

I don't post here very often anymore for the very same reasons as you noted. This place is rider bashing heaven. It gets seriously pathetic.

But for you to lay the total blame on Jumkie is absolutely ridiculous.

Funny. You absolutely agree with me and at the same time call it dribble.

I fail to see what favor Jumkie is doing to the forum as long as it is full of the same double standards he claims to expose and with an edge that provoke way beyond necessary to get the point through.

Two wrongs don't make one right. That is valid for you as well as I never layed the total blame ons on Jumkie. I said that he alone make a big enough impression on the forum that it would improve if he toned down his provocations and trolling. And I stand by that.

Of course it takes more than one or two members to make a large and permanent change. I have to take my part of the blame as well, as I have a serious problem staying away from feeding the trolls when they start and I've even fallen down to their level a few times. It was first of all a response to this tread and secondly a kick to Jumkie's "chip in" crusade. Not that it is without positives (and negatives), it's just that as one of the major contributors on the forum he is also in power of making it better, and right now it's not very good. as we both agree on.
 
I think jumkie is having a fairly prolonged revenge for nasturtiums cast at nicky hayden in the past. I actually agree with both you and babelfish, whom I respect, that the forum has degenerated . I don't think this thread was ruined by rossi being brought into it though, it was a gratuitous stoner bashing thread at its inception.



Of course it wasn't ruined by Rossi being brought in. It's alive only becasue of . Maybe I was wrong from the start blaming J. Maybe I sould congratulate him as he sparks life in treads that should have been dead a long time ago
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Rossi and RdeP both had leg breaks...one covered in the media thoroughly,one not so much.These are the extremes we`ll always face,get used to it ,its normality on THE forum and this is why we grow thick skins.
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Yes - except with the Rossi Fanatics the thick skin has all accumulated on their heads.
 
All this fake "controversy" over an interview in which some ....... Italian journo - with a middling

understanding of English - has twisted the meaning of Stoner's reply - in order to create a

sensational headline. All ....... newspapers do this to sell more editions. Even the New York Times.

Spanish and Italian sports journalists are famous for their exaggerations and their venomous attitude

towards anything or anyone that might be perceived as anti-anything Italian. Remember how viciously

the Italian press attacked Rossi when he was a tax exile living outside Italy? Like Pov - I totally discount

this crap - unless there's a Youtube link showing Stoner actually making the statement himself.

Oh, you regually read the italian press do you Kesh
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Of course it wasn't ruined by Rossi being brought in. It's alive only becasue of . Maybe I was wrong from the start blaming J. Maybe I sould congratulate him as he sparks life in treads that should have been dead a long time ago
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