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chopperman said:

Reading the british press is not surprising as it's in the same language. You made a bold remark regarding the italian press which i would think would be written in italian. i think im safe in assuming you don't speak italian so im wondering what made you qualified to make the statement you did? My bet it's just another ignorant povol generalization and stereotype that we have all become accustomed to in your posts

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We have this thing called Google translate, look into it

povol said:

We have this thing called Google translate, look into it

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and here we were talking about accurate translations cheer's mate, that made my sides hurt.

chopperman said:

and here we were talking about accurate translations

cheer's mate, that made my sides hurt.

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It does suck at times but at least you can get the gist of the article. You asked if i read the Italian press, the answer is yes.



Comments apparently made by Nicky Hayden in an interview with the Italian sports daily Gazzetta dello Sport caused a bit of a stir among MotoGP fans. According to Autosport, Hayden told the Gazzetta that it was "a bit shameful" for Casey Stoner to leave Ducati. In response to questions about Stoner's move to Honda, Hayden allegedly replied "I think it's a bit shameful, as Ducati has done a lot for his career and has helped him in every possible way in winning races and the championship."



When asked about the comments at Laguna Seca, Hayden denied that was what he said, suggesting the problem probably arose from a misunderstanding. "Maybe it was just a translation," Hayden said, but he made it clear he was aware that words can get twisted to suit the ends of the media. "Maybe the journalist is looking to sell a few more magazines, because I mean, [Casey] knows me, I wouldn't make a comment like that, that's not my business," Hayden explained. "





A reliable Italian source, speaking off the record have told SPEEDtv.com that “Ducati is preparing a press release that will say that Stoner is sitting out the next three GPs (Czech Republic, Indianapolis and Misano, San Marino) but the problem is a nervous condition."

povol said:

It does suck at times but at least you can get the gist of the article. You asked if i read the Italian press, the answer is yes.



Comments apparently made by Nicky Hayden in an interview with the Italian sports daily Gazzetta dello Sport caused a bit of a stir among MotoGP fans. According to Autosport, Hayden told the Gazzetta that it was "a bit shameful" for Casey Stoner to leave Ducati. In response to questions about Stoner's move to Honda, Hayden allegedly replied "I think it's a bit shameful, as Ducati has done a lot for his career and has helped him in every possible way in winning races and the championship."



When asked about the comments at Laguna Seca, Hayden denied that was what he said, suggesting the problem probably arose from a misunderstanding. "Maybe it was just a translation," Hayden said, but he made it clear he was aware that words can get twisted to suit the ends of the media. "Maybe the journalist is looking to sell a few more magazines, because I mean, [Casey] knows me, I wouldn't make a comment like that, that's not my business," Hayden explained. "





A reliable Italian source, speaking off the record have told SPEEDtv.com that “Ducati is preparing a press release that will say that Stoner is sitting out the next three GPs (Czech Republic, Indianapolis and Misano, San Marino) but the problem is a nervous condition."

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Maybe they were using "google translation" aswell You quote one quote from one italian mag to back up your earlier comment about the italian press keep digging, you will soon be in china. dont worry though im sure google translation will help you with your chinese too

Ahhhh yes.

This would be the same good old Italian press that headlined "Casey leaving Ducati was shameful" and attributed it to Nicky Hayden.

Seriously they are pathetic. I have seen interviews on numerous occasions where Stoner said that Ducati gave him a chance to ride for a factory team and he was very grateful.



Edit - I see Povol is of the same opinion.

Frizzle said:

Ahhhh yes.

This would be the same good old Italian press that headlined "Casey leaving Ducati was shameful" and attributed it to Nicky Hayden.

Seriously they are pathetic. I have seen interviews on numerous occasions where Stoner said that Ducati gave him a chance to ride for a factory team and he was very grateful.



Edit - I see Povol is of the same opinion.

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I think you missed the point friz. I'm talking in generalizations. Whether or not this particular mag misquoted or there was a translation issue is besides the point. Pov accused the italian press of being known for bs. Just like he accuses all rossi fans of one thought. Im sure there are more than one mag or paper in italy, some good, some bad .Maybe pov missed this as he only gets the "gist" with his "google translation"

Jumkie said:

Because this is very much spawned by a familiar syndrome that all things Stoner must be ...., guess what type of fan I'm talking about? Its interesting that YOU are coming to a defense here. uhm... Its the double standard of this particular fan, like I said where are the threads started by Factory or peeps like Ptk50 saying Rossi was a ...... for saying pretty much the same thing?Honestly, whatever you say is colored with the ABSURD notion that you have now tried to sow the seed about what caused Rossi's crash, was A TIRE MALFUNCTION! Leave it to YOU etal to absolve Rossi from any responsibility. Of course when Stoner crashes, well he's a .... rider, right? You even said you compared it to the chip computer glitch that was the cause of Pedro's open throttle to be stuck open. When I read somebody make such a leap in reality, I cannot help but categorize everything you say there after as complete fantasy.



Incase you guys are wondering what I'm talking about, here is Factory's take on what caused Rossi's crash. According to him it was equipment malfunction!

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what threads did I start calling anyone a ......?? when did I say Stoner was a .... rider??



I did bring up Rossi in that other thread after it had already been part of the discussion about Stoner, Pedrosa, and Rossi not being up Lorenzo's ... for the whole season due to crashes/injuries.



All I am saying is the tire is a piece of equipment for the rider. Tires are spec for the class now so they will would better for some bikes and worse for others. I guess you only consider electronics as equipement on the bike....and tires can never malfunction by coming apart structurally or not working/staying in the temp ranges Bridgestone claims a batch of tires can hande.



The guy I kick around is Capirossi....I guess you just see "rossi" at the end of that name and think of Vale!!

mmm that'sa spicey meatball!!

After reading most of his comments it does look like jumkey is a Rossi hater. There was no need to bring Rossi into this. Now this has become a another Rossi stoner thread. I don't think stoner said that. I would see the question first.

Rossi and Hayden are gonna be team mates and hopefully he'll help the bike come around which in return bring the old niky back.. Give the man a chance .

esco said:

After reading most of his comments it does look like jumkey is a Rossi hater. There was no need to bring Rossi into this. Now this has become a another Rossi stoner thread. I don't think stoner said that. I would see the question first.

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yes indeede, this thread proves again that jum is a much bigger ...... than Casey.

Talpa said:

yes indeede, this thread proves again that jum is a much bigger ...... than Casey.

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but my bet is jum's cocks a lot smaller. Im sure i read in some italian mag that stoner only has a half inch .... but i did use google translation

chopperman said:

but my bet is jum's cocks a lot smaller. Im sure i read in some italian mag that stoner only has a half inch .... but i did use google translation

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Wow, well the Mexican a few inches shorter so we know what that means......

esco said:

After reading most of his comments it does look like jumkey is a Rossi hater. There was no need to bring Rossi into this. Now this has become a another Rossi stoner thread. I don't think stoner said that. I would see the question first.

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1. Rossi has everything to do with this ..... or the Rossifans persay ....... it is sourced /interpretted by a Bopper .......

Motrix450 said:

Just saw Stoners comment on Italia 1 that pissed me off tremendously...



Stoner's statement to Italia 1:



“Non devo niente alla Ducati, non possono proprio lamentarsi di ciò che ho fatto per loro in questi quattro anni”.



in english



"I owe nothing to Ducati, they cannot lament what I have done for them during these four years".



This guy is a prick. Take some PR lessons or something...

Ducati picked him up when he was crashing all the time out of almost every race. Livio took a huge gamble and it worked out for the both of them. Ducati has thanked him and continues to do so even at the Milan Eicma show, and rightfully so...but Casey, he just keeps demonstrating his ignorance.



He is casey whiner....rolling stoner....all of these and more. And he either wins or crashes...or sorry, has a tummy ache.



Good luck to Hoda next year, they need to invest heavily in fairings and should also think about a team of psychologists for this incoming dingleberry...

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Context: ( if indeed it is true )

I don't see a thing wrong with what Casey said.



Does he owe anything to Ducati? What?



If they were talking about the "Grazie Casey" wall it may well be taken as a very positive statement.



ie. Ducati have gone and put up a wall of honour to him ....... he is probably very honoured, in which case the wording could be seen as a pretty humble way of saying " well I guess they like me ........ I guess they don't lament about me ( they have nothing to lament about )"

Was he asked to comment on that wall perhaps?

If this was the case motix I would suggest you never visit Australia, you may have a total breakdown if you have to by a bottle of milk at a corner store and get talked too



Mountain out of a mistranslated molehill again, the boppers would mistranslate no matter what he said.



eg. Stoner could say "I have allways loved Ducati" and the boppers would probably translate it as:

a. Stoner is two timing on Adriana



or



b. Stoner is having bum ... with all the employees at Ducati





Its all just more Bopper sooking at Stoner, it will continue until the score of wins Rossi 22 v's Stoner 23 changes to 1 in Rossi's favourite, at which time the Boppers will cry "its the second coming ...... he is the Goat ....... etc! ......... etc! ........ etc!" or Stoner has at least twice the wins



Mistranslated load of poppycock ......... if its at all true







Oh and I see its brought Reg. and Tampo out of the closet again ............ they just love talking about dicks

To borrow the words of Factory--the tire malfunction guy, how did my .... get dragged into this discussion? Chops, stop pretending you don't know how big it is, you screamed plenty much when I was ramming it up your .... You .....



Back on topic: Stoner is such a ............

chopperman said:

I think you missed the point friz. I'm talking in generalizations. Whether or not this particular mag misquoted or there was a translation issue is besides the point.

Pov accused the italian press of being known for bs. Just like he accuses all rossi fans of one thought. Im sure there are more than one mag or paper in italy, some good, some bad .Maybe pov missed this as he only gets the "gist" with his "google translation"

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You truly have no "dumbassdar" or "DC" ( ....... control ) do you Reg,







PS, Great thread Motrix ......... end of season bit of fun is allways good

Don't like Stacey at the first time well he save by his wife

if not he don't have a bopper



sorry all

english no good

cygnus88 said:

Don't like Stacey at the first time well he save by his wife

if not he don't have a bopper



sorry all

english no good

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Your english is fine mate.



Its your brain, and weird sooking about Casey thats disturbing

BarryMachine said:

Your english is fine mate.



Its your brain, and weird sooking about Casey thats disturbing

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my brain it's ok fella

just stacey it's no good well we will see his at honda

chopperman said:

If he said this then it is disappointing he feels this way. Ducati gave him a factory ride after his crash happy 06 season. I doubt many other's would have given a young rider who continually crashed and bad mouthed his team a chance on a factory bike.

Without Ducati he would not have won a championship, he would have been lucky to stay in the series. Im wondering if this comment has been taken out of context?

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Ducati gave Casey a championship? I'm confused. You infer in your post that the bike was capable of winning absent Casey, perhaps any rider would have won on that machine in 07? Your post seems to disregard the role played by the rider instead inferring that the bike is the larger piece of the championship puzzle. Am I understanding you wrong?



It's my belief that Casey gave Ducati equally what was given him. It was a good relationship for both. Now it's time for something different. Ducati have given to Casey what he gave them.....Neither are indebted to one another.....







For the record, in two years Casey will be returning to Ducati and Rossi will be retiring... You heard it here first.