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Rossi had Capi, Sete and Biaggi as his main competition ................... says it all really.
A far cry from the competition in the field today. A huge cry.
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you do realize he's beat everyone on todays motogp grid also right?
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you do realize he's beat everyone on todays motogp grid also right?
So will the next bloke to win a race
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Considering the gouge was to remind Rossi of who has ruled in a head to head between him and Casey, his retort was as weak as day old beer
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you do realize he's beat everyone on todays motogp grid also right?
But they are all .... riders man, no quicker than capi, sete and co. Didn't u get the email?
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Itsa notta fair! You compare Cazee when we go head to head.....mucha better you look ata my stats when I had factory bike and Cazee wasa on da shitabox!
Hehe....his fanatics also prefer the stats when they werent competing directly against each other too! Funny about that
Oh yeah nearly forgot so I better remind y'all - 9WC's.....
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you do realize he's beat everyone on todays motogp grid also right?
Except Stoner, the fastest and most talented MGP rider EVER!!!! .
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i said mentality. learn to read before suggesting such bs
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Gotta love off season banter....bring on Sepang II FFS before we all go mad
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Itsa notta fair! You compare Cazee when we go head to head.....mucha better you look ata my stats when I had factory bike and Cazee wasa on da shitabox!
Hehe....his fanatics also prefer the stats when they werent competing directly against each other too! Funny about that
Oh yeah nearly forgot so I better remind y'all - 9WC's.....
That wasnt good enough either, Caseys win total was still better, riding the sattelite bike and a factory .... box. He wanted to use stats before the competition ever entered the series.
Maybe someone needs to explain to him what head to head means.
See that kind of post ..... me off, they're at completely different stages in their careers. If Rossi was riding against Stoner when at the peak of his career then the results wouldnt be the same. How can you possibly compare them when theres 8 years or so between them? total bollocks Pov and you know it
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But 2008/9 where Rossi's best ever years, as usual he was just lucky Stoner was on the shitbox, and Lorenzo was getting used to the bike.
Really? But Stoner is the best ever, surely the bike doesn't matter? Oh now you're saying it does? Haha
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Are you suggesting that Rossi was on the downside of his career starting in 2007. I actually suggested it after he was beaten in 06 and 07 and was proven wrong in a big way. He is most certainly on the downside today and has not been the same since suffering his first major injury of his career in 2010. I agree the results would not be the same, like i said earlier, if Stoner and Rossi had come into the series at the same time, we would not be talking about Rossi and GOAT in the same sentence. We would more than likely be setting here discussing when or if either of them would match Doohan. You just cannot deny the numbers that show the runaway train known as Rossi, was derailed by 50% once the series got an infusion of talent that could run with him. Had he run his entire career against the likes of Lorenzo, Stoner and Pedrosa, yes , even Pedrosa, i seriously doubt he would have surpassed Doohan. Rossi was a superior talent who had the fortune of running 90% of his legendary career on the best bike,and 50% against mediocre talent. Looking back, im actually stunned that his numbers were not even better than they were, considering.
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I think it would be foolhardy to write Rossi off as being past his prime....he is WITHOUT DOUBT an all time great and is still relatively young - in fact I would say he is IN his prime. If Bayliss can win races at around 40 years old so can Valentino Rossi....on the right bike. The issue is his mental state which may have suffered from his recent injuries and pitiful season (by his standards) on the career killer.
However, the last six or so years of his career has been given context. That was clearly shown last year when he was on the wrong bike. When he was disposing of the same riders as Doohan was during his prime (Biaggi, Gibbers, Barros etc etc) it was relatively easy pickings...but when these new guys arrived on the scene he could no longer toy with his opponents like he used to - they are a class above his previous competition. Now that he no longer has an equipment advantage he has struggled to dominate them like he could with his rivals before.
I reckon if Ducati can give him a style of bike he NEEDS and he can get his head right he will no doubt be back up the front....but they are big "ifs" at this stage. And we all know if's, but's and maybe's dont win you much.
This is where I start to see why the "neobopper" tag arose barry.
It is fairly close to impossible to ride better than rossi did in 2008, a year in which he made about 1.5 race riding errors, and only 1.0 errors which cost him, when he put the yamaha down with cold tyres early in a race, at assen I think. That is why laguna seca was so crucial, and his overall performance in that race was insanely brilliant, whether or not you and I have a different view than rossi's fans concerning a particular incident. Stoner didn't contend in 2009 not because the bike was no good, but because his health didn't allow him to, and that is no one's problem but his own.
I actually disagree with povol as well. I see doohan's and rossi's 5 year consecutive runs as being similar, both could actually only beat the opposition that turned up to race them, and it is difficult to see how they could have done much more in those years. The same applies to stoner's 2007 and 2011 championships, and lorenzo's 2010 championship as well of course.
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I 100% agree with that, im just sayin that the opposition that turned up was inferior, compared to the opposition that showed up in 2006-2008. Rossi never even had a Pedrosa for the first half of his career, much less a Stoner or Lorenzo.
