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Spies at Donington

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Traverser @ Jun 25 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dose anyone have lap times for Chris Vermeulen, to compair to Ben Spies?
ummm, id be interested to see that
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Traverser @ Jun 25 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dose anyone have lap times for Chris Vermeulen, to compair to Ben Spies?
Here ya go
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Lap. Vermin. Spies
1.. 1'36.141 1'38.685
2.. 1'30.375 1'31.818
3.. 1'29.612 1'31.148
4.. 1'29.589 1'31.029
5.. 1'29.529 1'31.244
6.. 1'29.552 1'31.424
7.. 1'29.546 1'30.997
8.. 1'29.837 1'32.095
9.. 1'30.166 1'32.083
10 1'29.673 1'31.521
11 1'29.950 1'31.195
12 1'30.136 1'30.917
13 1'29.765 1'31.149
14 1'30.306 1'30.774
15 1'29.701 1'30.667
16 1'30.008 1'30.636
17 1'29.808 1'30.892
18 1'29.952 1'30.377
19 1'29.373 1'30.479
20 1'29.744 1'30.567
21 1'29.763 1'30.106
22 1'29.764 1'30.332
23 1'29.884 1'30.531
24 1'30.540 1'31.049
25 1'31.288 1'30.379
26 1'30.179 1'30.596
27 1'30.260 1'30.244
28 1'30.234 1'30.196
29 1'30.812 1'30.115
30 1'31.161 1'31.328
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Jun 25 2008, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Spies did finish strong didn't he.
Certainly seemed to be getting the hang of it consistently by 1/2 distance. And as quick or quicker than Vermin in most of the last 6 laps.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Jun 25 2008, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Here ya go
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Lap. Vermin. Spies
1.. 1'36.141 1'38.685
2.. 1'30.375 1'31.818
3.. 1'29.612 1'31.148
4.. 1'29.589 1'31.029
5.. 1'29.529 1'31.244
6.. 1'29.552 1'31.424
7.. 1'29.546 1'30.997
8.. 1'29.837 1'32.095
9.. 1'30.166 1'32.083
10 1'29.673 1'31.521
11 1'29.950 1'31.195
12 1'30.136 1'30.917
13 1'29.765 1'31.149
14 1'30.306 1'30.774
15 1'29.701 1'30.667
16 1'30.008 1'30.636
17 1'29.808 1'30.892
18 1'29.952 1'30.377
19 1'29.373 1'30.479
20 1'29.744 1'30.567
21 1'29.763 1'30.106
22 1'29.764 1'30.332
23 1'29.884 1'30.531
24 1'30.540 1'31.049
25 1'31.288 1'30.379
26 1'30.179 1'30.596
27 1'30.260 1'30.244
28 1'30.234 1'30.196
29 1'30.812 1'30.115
30 1'31.161 1'31.328
all things considered i would say that was a good effort. thanks for the times yam
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Jun 25 2008, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Here ya go
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Lap. Vermin. Spies
1.. 1'36.141 1'38.685
2.. 1'30.375 1'31.818
3.. 1'29.612 1'31.148
4.. 1'29.589 1'31.029
5.. 1'29.529 1'31.244
6.. 1'29.552 1'31.424
7.. 1'29.546 1'30.997
8.. 1'29.837 1'32.095
9.. 1'30.166 1'32.083
10 1'29.673 1'31.521
11 1'29.950 1'31.195
12 1'30.136 1'30.917
13 1'29.765 1'31.149
14 1'30.306 1'30.774
15 1'29.701 1'30.667
16 1'30.008 1'30.636
17 1'29.808 1'30.892
18 1'29.952 1'30.377
19 1'29.373 1'30.479
20 1'29.744 1'30.567
21 1'29.763 1'30.106
22 1'29.764 1'30.332
23 1'29.884 1'30.531
24 1'30.540 1'31.049
25 1'31.288 1'30.379
26 1'30.179 1'30.596
27 1'30.260 1'30.244
28 1'30.234 1'30.196
29 1'30.812 1'30.115
30 1'31.161 1'31.328

Pretty damned respectable I'd say.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Jun 25 2008, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Here ya go
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Lap. Vermin. Spies
1.. 1'36.141 1'38.685
2.. 1'30.375 1'31.818
3.. 1'29.612 1'31.148
4.. 1'29.589 1'31.029
5.. 1'29.529 1'31.244
6.. 1'29.552 1'31.424
7.. 1'29.546 1'30.997
8.. 1'29.837 1'32.095
9.. 1'30.166 1'32.083
10 1'29.673 1'31.521
11 1'29.950 1'31.195
12 1'30.136 1'30.917
13 1'29.765 1'31.149
14 1'30.306 1'30.774
15 1'29.701 1'30.667
16 1'30.008 1'30.636
17 1'29.808 1'30.892
18 1'29.952 1'30.377
19 1'29.373 1'30.479
20 1'29.744 1'30.567
21 1'29.763 1'30.106
22 1'29.764 1'30.332
23 1'29.884 1'30.531
24 1'30.540 1'31.049
25 1'31.288 1'30.379
26 1'30.179 1'30.596
27 1'30.260 1'30.244
28 1'30.234 1'30.196
29 1'30.812 1'30.115
30 1'31.161 1'31.328
Thanks!

This tells me that Ben kinda took her easy and rode smart. Very impressive indeed. Ben motoGP needs you!!!!!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Traverser @ Jun 25 2008, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thanks!

This tells me that Ben kinda took her easy and rode smart. Very impressive indeed. Ben motoGP needs you!!!!!
what i love about ben is all my american mates are really excited about him coming into the series and because of that im also excited about it.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 25 2008, 01:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>what i love about ben is all my american mates are really excited about him coming into the series and because of that im also excited about it.
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Thats cause Ben is a cool dude...he's not Anglo-American, He's not Hill-Billy American...he's like Me...Good looking layed back and cool
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jun 25 2008, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thats cause Ben is a cool dude...he's not Anglo-American, He's not Hill-Billy American...he's like Me...Good looking layed back and cool
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just ashame he's from texas...
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jun 25 2008, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thats cause Ben is a cool dude...he's not Anglo-American, He's not Hill-Billy American...he's like Me...Good looking layed back and cool
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You certainly are cooler than some of your other compatriots
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Thanks for posting those lap times now I can make sense of things.
He did well didn't he?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rgvneil @ Jun 25 2008, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You certainly are cooler than some of your other compatriots
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Thanks for posting those lap times now I can make sense of things.
He did well didn't he?

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Wow ,that was closer than i thought.
Really impressive from Spies!
Thanks for posting the times!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rgvneil @ Jun 25 2008, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You certainly are cooler than some of your other compatriots
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Thanks for posting those lap times now I can make sense of things.
He did well didn't he?
You can make "sense"? (tit4tat)

(Please, the thinly veiled dig is lame).

To answer you're last question. Well you can see that his lap times were about a second off of Vermi for the first part of the race, then he matches, then actually runs a few faster laps than Vermi for the last part of the race. Obviously, the first part of the race, he must have been thinking, '......., these boys mean buisness!' But then he settled in and probably told himself, 'Hey, get a grip, you know what racing is about', and began to focus on improving his lines and perfomance. He finished fair.

Take a look again at the last 6 laps (keep in mind that Spies was battling for position just before these laps for his final result). But once both Vermi and Spies were clear, this is the difference in their lap times at the end of the race (arguably when Spies had a the best chance to apply what he had learned about the track and bike).

Vermi/Spies


25 1'31.288 1'30.379 (+.909)
26 1'30.179 1'30.596 (+.417)
27 1'30.260 1'30.244 (-.016)
28 1'30.234 1'30.196 (-.038)
29 1'30.812 1'30.115 (-.697)
30 1'31.161 1'31.328 (+.167)

I'm not gonna say he did great, but it does show he had the pace of a respected regular on similar equipment. Feel free to add your happenstance and circumstance as you see fit. Just be prepared to debate it without getting sensitive.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jun 25 2008, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>My thoughts exactly.

Hey Jumkie, your speaking from the "Land of the Fruits and Nutz"
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jun 25 2008, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thats cause Ben is a cool dude...he's not Anglo-American, He's not Hill-Billy American...he's like Me...Good looking layed back and cool
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Christ Curvey look around you.
Since when was Texas and Hillbilly an oxymoron.
I should know.
I just watched Texas Chainsaw massacre.
Y'all are a funny bunch.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Jun 25 2008, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>just ashame he's from texas...
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Negative.......it's a shame you aren't from Texas. Maybe if you didn't impose that homicidal hell-hole you call home upon yourself, you wouldn't be such a hater.
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I think Spies is more like me..................tall, good-looking, and
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untouchable.

texas-state-capitol-3a.jpg


Yeah, drink it in. You know it's bigger than the one you've got in DC.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jun 26 2008, 02:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Negative.......it's a shame you aren't from Texas. Maybe if you didn't impose that homicidal hell-hole you call home upon yourself, you wouldn't be such a hater.
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When I went to San Antonio I was amused by the sign on the cash register in the bar of the hotel where I stayed. It said "These premises insured by Smith and Wesson."
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jun 25 2008, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Negative.......it's a shame you aren't from Texas. Maybe if you didn't impose that homicidal hell-hole you call home upon yourself, you wouldn't be such a hater.
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I think Spies is more like me..................tall, good-looking, and
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untouchable.

texas-state-capitol-3a.jpg


Yeah, drink it in. You know it's bigger than the one you've got in DC.

Shouldn't you at least photoshop a sniper in that tower to make it more realistic?
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What is that place anyway the new Branch Davidian compound?
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