<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Jan 23 2010, 06:19 AM)
<{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This is a bit absurd, at the Corkscrew VR was already passed (as he had done on at least 1 other occasion in this race) and missed the apex by 1/2 a meter, now seeing as the corkscrew is probably the most famous corner in motorcycle racing at present because of the fact that you can't see the apex as it follows a 3-4 meter sheer drop, then all things considered at race pace in Motogp in a battle for the lead, this is a mistake-sure, but not as big as you all make out-depending on your POV.
CS's 'Round the Outside' move up the hill was completely different but very dangerous, of course CS was thinking about getting around the corner......its pretty hard to blame the guy in front for this one, though some here are trying. CS touched VR on the way through and knew where he was before doing it. Ala Max.
I do note we haven't got to the other 'Round the Outside' move by CS at the end of the Start/finish straight where he nearly cannonballed VR before missing the braking marker completely and running at least 3-4 meters wide of the apex.......big mistake here......don't see any CS boppers admitting it. All depends on your POV
Of course the biggest mistake in the race at least was the one that ended it, made by CS running in too hot on brakes again. The corkscrew move was simply a flash and one of many passes, CS was just too impatient and wanted to try to gap VR too early, not wanting to be involved in last laps dicing no doubt.
So carry on with your bopper and religious ........ all you want, the facts remain, CS had the pace that weekend to win by 10 seconds or more, yet he was out raced and out-psyched
The fact of the matter here is, that all of the moves by both of these riders were awesome to watch and created one of the best spectacles in Motogp since Malaysia 06 IMO. The reason we are arguing is because of CS's reaction, showing some of the worst sportsmanship I've ever seen and he still seems to be holding a great deal of resentment over it.......if a cooler head prevailed post race then he no doubt would have been in a much better position mentally for the rest of 08 and indeed, even more so, today.
So maybe in hindsight, CS's biggest mistake of all in 08 wasn't on the racetrack at all......
I would agree tactically, strategically etc that stoner would have been better off not complaining, which is a different question than whether he had cause for complaint, and have said many times that the corkscrew was a racing incident and one where the only alternative may well have been putting the bike down and taking stoner out anyway.
However, did any of stoner's "mistakes" actually require evasive action from rossi to avoid a certain collision? The point stoner perhaps unwisely made after the race was that with his crucial mistake, one which he freely admitted was his from the get-go, he chose to go into the dirt rather than collide with rossi; as far as I am aware he himself never accused rossi of brake-checking in that incident either.
I see again that even when in a position of great strength, such as when arguing that rossi out-raced stoner on the day at laguna seca 2008 (not something I have argued against btw), you still feel the need for epiphets.
