Should Ducati sack Hayden?

pedrosa - proven lower class champion and multiple moto gp race winner
hayden - flukiest wc ever, 99 starts on factory honda machine, miserable 3 wins, 2 of them on home soil, assen 06 gifted by edwards

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ Apr 17 2009, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You need to remember that this poster is a bit slow.

certainly not as your hero.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AP67 @ Apr 17 2009, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>pedrosa - proven lower class champion and multiple moto gp race winner
hayden - flukiest wc ever, 99 starts on factory honda machine, miserable 3 wins, 2 of them on home soil, assen 06 gifted by edwards

Pedrosa will never win the big title because he cannot race for position. History will remember Hayden as a champ, admittedly not the most stunning, but still as a champ in the company of Rossi, Ago (you might wanna google him) Doohan, (actually you might wanna google him too) Rainey, (aw, just look up motorbikes on Wiki and google , you have much to learn) Roberts, Sheene, Read, Spencer, Gardner and loads more, (it's ok you havent heard of most of them so I'm sticking to the famous guys) aand Pedro will be remembered fondly as...............................somebody Honda sunk a loada cash into and did .... all.

Stick to Hong Kong .... sites son, a virgin is harder to spot there than a guy who knows .... all about bikes on here.

Pete

history will remember hayden as a krj clone

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Apr 14 2009, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's ironic that by sharing this you have made yourself one of the members you are attempting to critisize. I think most people aren't phased by the topic founders motives...

Tom, I bet you think your response was clever and are probably patting yourself on the back, but you don't see what a fool you have made of yourself, something that is clear to some others. I know you are young and naive so I understand you have difficulty seeing the world for what it is; 27_2007 is Pinky and posted an absurd post considering its timing. That was the point of Rog & Pete, that is to expose the thread for the ........ it is and continues to be, enable by people like you. You failed to separate the need for me to post on this thread with its meaning, just like you fail to heed the many corrections to your naive ways.

I have never put somebody on my "Ignore Button" list nor have called on the mods to snitch on a member...no need to when they expose themselves anyway. The reason for this is because the idea is that the forum members should police themselves. Have you ever heard of somebody say "don't feed the troll?" Its a good idea, but only if you don't have members such as yourself giving importance to such an absurd thread and feeding trolls. You naively rationalize that you can separate intentions and therefore give yourself the green light to feed the troll. You fail at both, you have no idea what are people's intentions, and you're enabling on this thread (as others) only served to invite Pinky's aliases to chime in. Ah, but you are such a good mind reader of motives right?

Here is an exchange I had today with Pinky: (First, let me give you some background, take a look at my signature, I changed it today to let unsuspecting members know Pinky's aliases. I changed it about 10am). Just a short time after I got this PM.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Putin @ Apr 16 2009, 10:29 AM)<div class='quotemain'>IMMIGRANT PIECE OF .... YOU CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT ME MORON. YOURE NOT ON MY LEVEL, YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT MOTO GP, SBK OR WHATEVER COMPETITIVE SERIES ON 2 WHEELS DESPITE TYPING POSTS LONG AS A BIBLE. SO CALLED AMERICAN THATS YOU. .... ALL LATINOS, .... ALL AMERICANS YOU DESERVED EVERY .... WHICH ANY THROWING ON YOU. NOW GO CRY TO MODS AS YOUR INDONESIAN FRIEND. .... YOU

LONG LIVE AUSTRALIA

To which I said:

Hahaha, hello PINKY.

This was his next PM:



To which I replied:

You are very sick.

This was his next PM:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>haha look whos talking. you even dont know who are you. mexican, american, immigrant, latino american. if americans says that im sick then im glad to hear that especially if that american or latinos or whoever you are thins that hayden deserved 2006 title.

To which I replied:

Pinky, I can't really have a normal conversation with you because you change your name so much and all you do is hate. Get help, call a doctor, you need one before you so something crazy.

This was his next PM:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>ofcourse you cant have conversation with me coz youre not capable for that. yourre half educated man whos spending his life on internet discuse sport which he doent understand. im racer, youre armchair expert - difference.

My last reply to him was:

Get help Pinky. You may suffer from Schizophrenia. Tamada6, #27, AP67, 27_2007 and now Putin. What next? Call a doctor.

He of course had a few more choice replies.



Tom, (and anybody else who wishes to think they can legitimize a conversation with Pinky) this is what you are dealing with. A person who has no grip on the real world and lives in a fantasy. Imagine that, a person who like a child puts his hands over his eyes and thinks you can no longer see him. Its a fair warning on this thread by a few members like Rog & Pete, but you think what do us "old timers" know, right? Well sometimes the old guys have little insight and experience about the world we live in and to who might be on the other end of an internet connection.

There's a few other members I have refrained from replying to also because they seem very angry. In one such occasion, Rog said something very wise to me, he said in a PM to me, 'don't debate this guy (another member that will remain nameless, but I bet you can figure out who) because he may take it out on his wife or kids'. I thought about that and realized he is right. There are alot of unstable people in this world and are capable of anything. One tell tale sign is a person who spews unfettered anger and changes his name thinking unrealistically that people don't notice. Its a fantasy world he lives in and you are feeding this fantasy. We may be shielded by anonymity, but somebody on his end has to deal with him, and that might be dangerous. I didn't really go into analyzing his PM exchanges above, but I think there is no need really, it speaks volumes for itself. This post should give you a clue as to what is Pinky the next time you decide to grace his fantasy with your attempt to legitimize and rationalize an exchange with such a person.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 17 2009, 12:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Tom, I bet you think your response was clever and are probably patting yourself on the back, but you don't see what a fool you have made of yourself, something that is clear to some others. I know you are young and naive so I understand you have difficulty seeing the world for what it is; 27_2007 is Pinky and posted an absurd post considering its timing. That was the point of Rog & Pete, that is to expose the thread for the ........ it is and continues to be, enable by people like you. You failed to separate the need for me to post on this thread with its meaning, just like you fail to heed the many corrections to your naive ways.

I have never put somebody on my "Ignore Button" list nor have called on the mods to snitch on a member...no need to when they expose themselves anyway. The reason for this is because the idea is that the forum members should police themselves. Have you ever heard of somebody say "don't feed the troll?" Its a good idea, but only if you don't have members such as yourself giving importance to such an absurd thread and feeding trolls. You naively rationalize that you can separate intentions and therefore give yourself the green light to feed the troll. You fail at both, you have no idea what are people's intentions, and you're enabling on this thread (as others) only served to invite Pinky's aliases to chime in. Ah, but you are such a good mind reader of motives right?

Here is an exchange I had today with Pinky: (First, let me give you some background, take a look at my signature, I changed it today to let unsuspecting members know Pinky's aliases. I changed it about 10am). Just a short time after I got this PM.



To which I said:

Hahaha, hello PINKY.

This was his next PM:



To which I replied:

You are very sick.

This was his next PM:



To which I replied:

Pinky, I can't really have a normal conversation with you because you change your name so much and all you do is hate. Get help, call a doctor, you need one before you so something crazy.

This was his next PM:



My last reply to him was:

Get help Pinky. You may suffer from Schizophrenia. Tamada6, #27, AP67, 27_2007 and now Putin. What next? Call a doctor.

He of course had a few more choice replies.



Tom, (and anybody else who wishes to think they can legitimize a conversation with Pinky) this is what you are dealing with. A person who has no grip on the real world and lives in a fantasy. Imagine that, a person who like a child puts his hands over his eyes and thinks you can no longer see him. Its a fair warning on this thread by a few members like Rog & Pete, but you think what do us "old timers" know, right? Well sometimes the old guys have little insight and experience about the world we live in and to who might be on the other end of an internet connection.

There's a few other members I have refrained from replying to also because they seem very angry. In one such occasion, Rog said something very wise to me, he said in a PM to me, 'don't debate this guy (another member that will remain nameless, but I bet you can figure out who) because he may take it out on his wife or kids'. I thought about that and realized he is right. There are alot of unstable people in this world and are capable of anything. One tell tail sign is a person who spews unfettered anger and changes his name thinking unrealistically that people don't notice. Its a fantasy world he lives in and you are feeding this fantasy. We may be shielded by anonymity, but somebody on his end has to deal with him, and that might be dangerous. I didn't really go into analyzing his PM exchanges above, but I think there is no need really, it speaks volumes for itself. This post should give you a clue as to what is Pinky the next time you decide to grace his fantasy with your attempt to legitimize and rationalize an exchange with such a person.

Looking at the responses the ...... gave Jumkie there is no alternative, ban the .... from here quickly.

Anytime his IP adress shows, boot the ......., there is no place for racist ...... nonsense like he is spouting in this forum, or indeed anywhere.

Pete

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Apr 16 2009, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Looking at the responses the ...... gave Jumkie there is no alternative, ban the .... from here quickly.

Anytime his IP adress shows, boot the ......., there is no place for racist ...... nonsense like he is spouting in this forum, or indeed anywhere.

Pete

It is a waste of time for people like Ben and the mods to sift through to edit and change in his posts to make him worth keeping. Plus, what does he even say that adds anything to the forum?

Jumkie, could you remove that picture with maybe a link or something. That is just too much. We get the point from the text he is a waste of time.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ Apr 17 2009, 12:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It is a waste of time for people like Ben and the mods to sift through to edit and change in his posts to make him worth keeping. Plus, what does he even say that adds anything to the forum?

Jumkie, could you remove that picture with maybe a link or something. That is just too much. We get the point from the text he is a waste of time.

Ok lets just tell the mods that this .... has to go. He has had his chance, alphabet and toni elias went pretty quick so lets just pass on the info that Jumkie has given us an say goodbye to the guy.

Pete

edited

I didn't read all of Jumkies post

"There's a few other members I have refrained from replying to also because they seem very angry. In one such occasion, Rog said something very wise to me, he said in a PM to me, 'don't debate this guy (another member that will remain nameless, but I bet you can figure out who) because he may take it out on his wife or kids'. I thought about that and realized he is right. There are alot of unstable people in this world and are capable of anything. One tell tale sign is a person who spews unfettered anger and changes his name thinking unrealistically that people don't notice. Its a fantasy world he lives in and you are feeding this fantasy. We may be shielded by anonymity, but somebody on his end has to deal with him, and that might be dangerous."

Wow that is sick.

edited

I didn't read all of Jumkies post

"There's a few other members I have refrained from replying to also because they seem very angry. In one such occasion, Rog said something very wise to me, he said in a PM to me, 'don't debate this guy (another member that will remain nameless, but I bet you can figure out who) because he may take it out on his wife or kids'. I thought about that and realized he is right. There are alot of unstable people in this world and are capable of anything. One tell tale sign is a person who spews unfettered anger and changes his name thinking unrealistically that people don't notice. Its a fantasy world he lives in and you are feeding this fantasy. We may be shielded by anonymity, but somebody on his end has to deal with him, and that might be dangerous."

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ Apr 16 2009, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It is a waste of time for people like Ben and the mods to sift through to edit and change in his posts to make him worth keeping. Plus, what does he even say that adds anything to the forum?

Jumkie, could you remove that picture with maybe a link or something. That is just too much. We get the point from the text he is a waste of time.

I really think it should stay as a testament to the dark side of somebody so obviously sick; perhaps you or others won't take it lightly and cast it off as some joke. IMHO

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 17 2009, 01:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I really think it should stay as a testament to the dark side of somebody so obviously sick; perhaps you or others won't take it lightly and cast it off as some joke. IMHO


Yep show the ...... up as the scum he is.

Pete

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 17 2009, 06:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Tom, I bet you think your response was clever and are probably patting yourself on the back, but you don't see what a fool you have made of yourself, something that is clear to some others. I know you are young and naive so I understand you have difficulty seeing the world for what it is; 27_2007 is Pinky and posted an absurd post considering its timing. That was the point of Rog & Pete, that is to expose the thread for the ........ it is and continues to be, enable by people like you. You failed to separate the need for me to post on this thread with its meaning, just like you fail to heed the many corrections to your naive ways.

I have never put somebody on my "Ignore Button" list nor have called on the mods to snitch on a member...no need to when they expose themselves anyway. The reason for this is because the idea is that the forum members should police themselves. Have you ever heard of somebody say "don't feed the troll?" Its a good idea, but only if you don't have members such as yourself giving importance to such an absurd thread and feeding trolls. You naively rationalize that you can separate intentions and therefore give yourself the green light to feed the troll. You fail at both, you have no idea what are people's intentions, and you're enabling on this thread (as others) only served to invite Pinky's aliases to chime in. Ah, but you are such a good mind reader of motives right?

Here is an exchange I had today with Pinky: (First, let me give you some background, take a look at my signature, I changed it today to let unsuspecting members know Pinky's aliases. I changed it about 10am). Just a short time after I got this PM.



To which I said:

Hahaha, hello PINKY.

This was his next PM:



To which I replied:

You are very sick.

This was his next PM:



To which I replied:

Pinky, I can't really have a normal conversation with you because you change your name so much and all you do is hate. Get help, call a doctor, you need one before you so something crazy.

This was his next PM:



My last reply to him was:

Get help Pinky. You may suffer from Schizophrenia. Tamada6, #27, AP67, 27_2007 and now Putin. What next? Call a doctor.

He of course had a few more choice replies.



Tom, (and anybody else who wishes to think they can legitimize a conversation with Pinky) this is what you are dealing with. A person who has no grip on the real world and lives in a fantasy. Imagine that, a person who like a child puts his hands over his eyes and thinks you can no longer see him. Its a fair warning on this thread by a few members like Rog & Pete, but you think what do us "old timers" know, right? Well sometimes the old guys have little insight and experience about the world we live in and to who might be on the other end of an internet connection.

There's a few other members I have refrained from replying to also because they seem very angry. In one such occasion, Rog said something very wise to me, he said in a PM to me, 'don't debate this guy (another member that will remain nameless, but I bet you can figure out who) because he may take it out on his wife or kids'. I thought about that and realized he is right. There are alot of unstable people in this world and are capable of anything. One tell tale sign is a person who spews unfettered anger and changes his name thinking unrealistically that people don't notice. Its a fantasy world he lives in and you are feeding this fantasy. We may be shielded by anonymity, but somebody on his end has to deal with him, and that might be dangerous. I didn't really go into analyzing his PM exchanges above, but I think there is no need really, it speaks volumes for itself. This post should give you a clue as to what is Pinky the next time you decide to grace his fantasy with your attempt to legitimize and rationalize an exchange with such a person.
27_2007 was send a PM to me. with some uncomfortable pic inside (he make fun of Bali Tragedy).
That's why I report it to the mods. ......

Not because I have no balls,....

BUT...

BECAUSE I RESPECT THE FORUM RULES.

(he's banned, isn't he..thanks Ben and the Mods for respond)

Shame on you 27_2007.

I have no idea why the dipshit wasn't banned a long time ago.
Letting people troll and insult others does not and never will make this a better place.
Every time he gets away with something he goes further next time. When will it end?

Typical Pinky, I guess it would be a waste of time telling him of Australia's immigrant past


imo it dose'nt say much for the mods and how they think of the members to allow a scumbag like that to abuse other members.


I'm not surprised to read that its Tom who thinks its a great idea to feed the troll. Should Hayden be sacked after 1 race, Tom your a bigger ......' .....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (johnny @ Apr 16 2009, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'> Typical Pinky, I guess it would be a waste of time telling him of Australia's immigrant past


imo it dose'nt say much for the mods and how they think of the members to allow a scumbag like that to abuse other members.

I'm not surprised to read that its Tom who thinks its a great idea to feed the troll. Should Hayden be sacked after 1 race, Tom your a bigger ......' .....
The mods have tried johnny. Its hard to catch slime for obvious reasons. They've done as good a job as they can while trying to makes this place free flowing. No one person is to blame since I have been sucker myself into Pinky's senseless game. Pinky was able to take advantage of the free system we have, and frankly its sometimes hard to avoid. To be fair, Tom is not worse than Pinky, it just that Tom got suckered by thinking he could mind read intentions.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ Apr 16 2009, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>27_2007 was send a PM to me. with some uncomfortable pic inside (he make fun of Bali Tragedy).
That's why I report it to the mods. ......

Not because I have no balls,....

BUT...

BECAUSE I RESPECT THE FORUM RULES.

(he's banned, isn't he..thanks Ben and the Mods for respond)

Shame on you 27_2007.

And you did the right thing #46. I notice he was banned and wondered why myself since I had not seen anything offensive on the boards. It seems Pinky has taken his sick fantasy to another level and started PM members. His PMs are offensive to say the least, but really I feel sorry for those people around him in the real world. The man is malicious and sick. I changed my signature to alert those members who don't frequent the forum enough to see patters. I'm on here enough (as are a few others members) to know and see the pattern of Pinks posts and aliases and realize its the same person. I think exposing him this way was too much for him to handle and started showing another darker side of his character. As I said, I think his exchanges are very telling, this is why I felt that his picture and context should stay up. Otherwise another might look at it as cast if off as just a rift between two members and not be the wiser. But this way it really hits home as to what Pinky really like and not be fooled by his multiple aliases.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 17 2009, 08:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And you did the right thing #46. I notice he was banned and wondered why myself since I had not seen anything offensive on the boards. It seems Pinky has taken his sick fantasy to another level and started PM members. His PMs are offensive to say the least, but really I feel sorry for those people around him in the real world. The man is malicious and sick. I changed my signature to alert those members who don't frequent the forum enough to see patters. I'm on here enough (as are a few others members) to know and see the pattern of Pinks posts and aliases and realize its the same person. I think exposing him this way was too much for him to handle and started showing another darker side of his character. As I said, I think his exchanges are very telling, this is why I felt that his picture and context should stay up. Otherwise another might look at it as cast if off as just a rift between two members and not be the wiser. But this way it really hits home as to what Pinky really like and not be fooled by his multiple aliases.
Yup, that guy is very sick. No doubt about that.