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Sepang Test (Jan 31st - Feb 2nd 2012)

I like jokes, I don't wanna be an ......., but half the thread is jokes, so c'mon, we're all anxious for more videos and infos.
 
haha, i was just joking, i'm with you here



just wait till this gets past page 10 ,then everything will be back to normal (platon vs sokrates)



are the crts still off the moto2 pace?
 
cliché guevara said:
haha, i was just joking, i'm with you here



just wait till this gets past page 10 ,then everything will be back to normal (platon vs sokrates)



are the crts still off the moto2 pace?
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From the beginning of the 2010 race season, to the end of 2011, Moto 2 bikes made improvements that averaged around 1.5 seconds in performance. I would guess that we are looking at a similar curve for CRT. The next 3 months will be critical in terms of hacking off huge chunks of time if my theory is correct.
 
Well, very early days but- looks as though Yamaha have a great base machine once again, seeing as Dani couldn't muster a quicker one in all of those laps maybe Honda have a little work to do-impossible to say without Stoner riding, however Dani was very strong at Sepang last year. Cal is up there, but he is good at one lap wonders, Ben looks business as usual and can't really comment on Dovi and Nicky with those shoulder issues.



As for Ducati, yesterday is a truly stunning achievement if all of the reported time-frames are accurate in the development of this bike-if your a fan or not-I've never been a fan of Ducati but this is impressive. They have reacted very well to what has been a disastrous last 12 months and to be near the top all day and only 7 tenths off by the end is quite remarkable and deserves a lot of respect. Rossi seems very happy but the road is still very long. The bike now looks fantastic! Those youtube clips are great-still pics don't do it justice.



Biggest surprise for me though is Randy in Valencia, Aprilia are not playing- should be very interesting to see this unfold........
 
Mick D said:
.... Jaz I'm not impressed either... I coulda gone .75 faster than those turds.
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no i didnt mean it like that hehe.... track is dirty i expect times to come down by 1-2 second or maybe not?



how are track temps looking?



i WAS gonna purchase motogp pakage again but..... i dont see an offer for previous users, and i WONT be paying full price. no discount no purchase....
 
Talpa said:
Well, very early days but- looks as though Yamaha have a great base machine once again, seeing as Dani couldn't muster a quicker one in all of those laps maybe Honda have a little work to do-impossible to say without Stoner riding, however Dani was very strong at Sepang last year. Cal is up there, but he is good at one lap wonders, Ben looks business as usual and can't really comment on Dovi and Nicky with those shoulder issues.



As for Ducati, yesterday is a truly stunning achievement if all of the reported time-frames are accurate in the development of this bike-if your a fan or not-I've never been a fan of Ducati but this is impressive. They have reacted very well to what has been a disastrous last 12 months and to be near the top all day and only 7 tenths off by the end is quite remarkable and deserves a lot of respect. Rossi seems very happy but the road is still very long. The bike now looks fantastic! Those youtube clips are great-still pics don't do it justice.



Biggest surprise for me though is Randy in Valencia, Aprilia are not playing- should be very interesting to see this unfold........
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I agree Talpa. The Ducati engineers have done an amazing job developing the new bike. It is a shame you didn't lay down your predictions in the predictions thread before things got underway. As you will see in there if you take a look, most PS's including me predicted that Ducati would get it done and this season will be a big turn around. I predicted Rossi will top a time sheet in testing and podium in Qatar. By the look of the first day's testing it is highly possible, as what the engineers have done is move the bike into a geometry range where it can be tuned in the box by Rossi/JB and the highly experienced crew to be competitive. This is what they lacked last year as the bike was too far out of the correct geometry range that tuning within its tuneable range did not allow it to be set up as required.
 
Mental Anarchist said:
I agree Talpa. The Ducati engineers have done an amazing job developing the new bike. It is a shame you didn't lay down your predictions in the predictions thread before things got underway. As you will see in there if you take a look, most PS's including me predicted that Ducati would get it done and this season will be a big turn around. I predicted Rossi will top a time sheet in testing and podium in Qatar. By the look of the first day's testing it is highly possible, as what the engineers have done is move the bike into a geometry range where it can be tuned in the box by Rossi/JB and the highly experienced crew to be competitive. This is what they lacked last year as the bike was too far out of the correct geometry range that tuning within its tuneable range did not allow it to be set up as required.
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Exactly.



I am not surprised suter or whoever can successfully build a bike, but if ducati have designed a frame which is competitive first time out against the japanese who have been doing twin spar chassis for decades it is truly impressive. Not to detract from anybody but it would be interesting to know if presiozi alone designed it or whether he had help; if he can come up with a chassis design radically different from previous directions in a matter of weeks maybe he is the genius he was previously touted to be.



Just the bike feeling "right" to valentino so he can proceed with doing what he does is the major step. It sounds as though he didn't meld with the 800 ducati pretty much from the first lap as was the case with the trellis frame bike for marco melandri.



The yamaha has seemed to be good from the first time out and perhaps this is where yamaha's efforts have been focused for the last year at least. The honda does not seem to have been dramatically fast except for the first time stoner rode it and then only by report. I share talpa's doubt that pedrosa was holding back much with so many laps, and I don't expect stoner to be faster by any large increment, except perhaps if rossi is very fast towards the end of the test
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. I would like this to be the year that stoner doesn't show his hand from the start but this does not seem to be his nature.
 
Talpa said:
Well, very early days but- looks as though Yamaha have a great base machine once again, seeing as Dani couldn't muster a quicker one in all of those laps maybe Honda have a little work to do-impossible to say without Stoner riding, however Dani was very strong at Sepang last year. Cal is up there, but he is good at one lap wonders, Ben looks business as usual and can't really comment on Dovi and Nicky with those shoulder issues.



As for Ducati, yesterday is a truly stunning achievement if all of the reported time-frames are accurate in the development of this bike-if your a fan or not-I've never been a fan of Ducati but this is impressive. They have reacted very well to what has been a disastrous last 12 months and to be near the top all day and only 7 tenths off by the end is quite remarkable and deserves a lot of respect. Rossi seems very happy but the road is still very long. The bike now looks fantastic! Those youtube clips are great-still pics don't do it justice.



Biggest surprise for me though is Randy in Valencia, Aprilia are not playing- should be very interesting to see this unfold........
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I have to say RDP is the biggest surprise for me to, he's not to far from race pace and that's with really bad track conditions. I'm not sure if he even has anyone with him like a crew chief or engineer who is familiar with his style and setup needs, he's doing some great riding and the boys from Aprilia are serious about putting out good racing bikes. I think they're going to be very pleased with their choice of rider and I'm glad he finally gets his shot at being a team's number one rider.
 
michaelm said:
Exactly.



I am not surprised suter or whoever can successfully build a bike, but if ducati have designed a frame which is competitive first time out against the japanese who have been doing twin spar chassis for decades it is truly impressive. Not to detract from anybody but it would be interesting to know if presiozi alone designed it or whether he had help; if he can come up with a chassis design radically different from previous directions in a matter of weeks maybe he is the genius he was previously touted to be.



Just the bike feeling "right" to valentino so he can proceed with doing what he does is the major step. It sounds as though he didn't meld with the 800 ducati pretty much from the first lap as was the case with the trellis frame bike for marco melandri.



The yamaha has seemed to be good from the first time out and perhaps this is where yamaha's efforts have been focused for the last year at least. The honda does not seem to have been dramatically fast except for the first time stoner rode it and then only by report. I share talpa's doubt that pedrosa was holding back much with so many laps, and I don't expect stoner to be faster by any large increment, except perhaps if rossi is very fast towards the end of the test
<
. I would like this to be the year that stoner doesn't show his hand from the start but this does not seem to be his nature.
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As was the case at the end of 2010 and then start of 2011, Pedrosa will be thinking the bike is not "perfect" until Stoner starts setting very fast laps on it. Once this happens Pedrosa will have no excuses and will start to go fast as well. I think Stoner not being on track yesterday and the Honda's results show that he is the 'lead' rider. Today will be a different story however I don't expect Stoner will turn many laps but he will be top of the time sheet at the end of the day by a margin. My only concern for Stoner is the tyres but he has shown that he is infinitely adjustable in his riding style and will no doubt find a way to ride them.
 
Shame Stoner couldn't ride yesterday as he is the current benchmark for everyone else to be measured by. It's hard to judge Dani's performance without that.

Mental - you did note that Stoner was adjustable to pretty much anything but softer tyres did seem to be his weakness last year. It will be interesting to see how he goes this year if Bridgestone have made the tyres a bit softer and the rest of the field feel more comfortable on them. If that is the case, hopefully there are less first two lap incidents as a result.
 

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