Rossiboppers- a scientific analysis

There was a time when British sporting success was limited and I could partly understand the desperate desire to latch onto any sporting hero- foreign, if not local. But these dark days are largely over; success at the olympic games, particularly cycling was there for all to see. Now your rugby is no worse than ours and your cricket is competitive. So no more excuses

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Nov 23 2009, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You wrote in your post : Italians that back Rossi- I have no issues with them; but non-Italian Rossi fans I treat with a lot of suspicion. And a hell of a lot of them are Brits. Even when Toseland was racing, he got little support from most Brits. He wasn,t giving them much joy was he?



PS. Rossiofsky, I hope for Michaels sake ,you are not confusing him with me. His opinions are far more measured and politically correct than mine.

Is it too late to enter the diplomatic corps Michael?


Oh ....,

I am confused, and didn't checked the names. I, thought that was come from you and not from Michael. I dont know how that could happen, but anyway a reason to laugh at myself for a few moments.

my apologies to both of you Bunyip and Michael for the mistake.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rossiofsky @ Nov 25 2009, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh ....,

I am confused, and didn't checked the names. I, thought that was come from you and not from Michael. I dont know how that could happen, but anyway a reason to laugh at myself for a few moments.

my apologies to both of you Bunyip and Michael for the mistake.
I did realise this and was not offended. I now tend to think you should all keep going or it will be a boring off-season.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Nov 26 2009, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I did realise this and was not offended. I now tend to think you should all keep going or it will be a boring off-season.



ok, mate. I,m glad you recognized my mistake, and you weren't offended by it.

your right we have to keep us busy with something, to stop thinking about 5 boring months.

i realy hope they run a winter serie also.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Nov 26 2009, 06:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I did realise this and was not offended. I now tend to think you should all keep going or it will be a boring off-season.

Too late! It's already boring.

GO Hiroshi Aoyama!!!

damn, the .... smell is back.

I am British and a Rossi fan, why I didn’t support Toseland, he has the charisma of a wet fart, he is full of sht and is a quitter and excuse maker, he talks a good talk and never delivers on his promises. Also im Welsh anyway not English.

Facts that support or derail the OP:

Rossi got me into Moto GP, I switched over from F1 as it got boring (around 2000) I happened to see a couple of very entertaining races with some funny celebrations and I thought I like this guy! From then on I started watching moto gp, so I was a Rossi fan before I was a moto GP fan.

I don’t support Rossi because he is the best (it makes it easier) I support Rossi because he is entertaining on and off the track and very likeable. I think due to vales personality, Rossi fans have an emotional attachment to Vale and it hurts more when he fails than with many other riders fans, hence getting so defensive.

I hated Schumacher and supported Montoya, so it’s not because I just support winners.
Stoner fans generally either support stoner cos he is an ausie or just because they don’t like Rossi and he is the great hope to defeat him. In some ways I admire stoners personality, his attitude is im a racer not a personality, however this is far less entertaining and likeable than Rossi’s antics.

As for rossi boppers reaction to 06 and 07: well 2006 should never of happened, I think Rossi and Yamaha were ignorant and had their heads in the clouds. No offence to Hayden, but Rossi lost that championship more than Hayden won it IMO.

2007 Ducati caught everyone napping and Bridgestones outperformed Michelin, Rossi suffered chatter and 2 tyre failures (still wouldn’t have been enough for championship without tyre failures), although we all thought stoner was just a flash in the pan and talent less on a beast of a bike, since he has proved himself to be one hell of a rider and I think all Rossi fans know this. But it was wired as Stoner seemed to come from know where in 2006.

For some reason I am drawn to Melandri, Simoncelli and Spies too, Lorenzo often amuses me too, I think he has learnt a lot from Rossi and how to conduct himself off track.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rhyko7 @ Nov 29 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I am British and a Rossi fan, why I didn’t support Toseland, he has the charisma of a wet fart, he is full of sht and is a quitter and excuse maker, he talks a good talk and never delivers on his promises. Also im Welsh anyway not English.

Facts that support or derail the OP:

Rossi got me into Moto GP, I switched over from F1 as it got boring (around 2000) I happened to see a couple of very entertaining races with some funny celebrations and I thought I like this guy! From then on I started watching moto gp, so I was a Rossi fan before I was a moto GP fan.

I don’t support Rossi because he is the best (it makes it easier) I support Rossi because he is entertaining on and off the track and very likeable. I think due to vales personality, Rossi fans have an emotional attachment to Vale and it hurts more when he fails than with many other riders fans, hence getting so defensive.

I hated Schumacher and supported Montoya, so it’s not because I just support winners.
Stoner fans generally either support stoner cos he is an ausie or just because they don’t like Rossi and he is the great hope to defeat him. In some ways I admire stoners personality, his attitude is im a racer not a personality, however this is far less entertaining and likeable than Rossi’s antics.

As for rossi boppers reaction to 06 and 07: well 2006 should never of happened, I think Rossi and Yamaha were ignorant and had their heads in the clouds. No offence to Hayden, but Rossi lost that championship more than Hayden won it IMO.

2007 Ducati caught everyone napping and Bridgestones outperformed Michelin, Rossi suffered chatter and 2 tyre failures (still wouldn’t have been enough for championship without tyre failures), although we all thought stoner was just a flash in the pan and talent less on a beast of a bike, since he has proved himself to be one hell of a rider and I think all Rossi fans know this. But it was wired as Stoner seemed to come from know where in 2006.

For some reason I am drawn to Melandri, Simoncelli and Spies too, Lorenzo often amuses me too, I think he has learnt a lot from Rossi and how to conduct himself off track.

Jeez I am bored. I wasn't going to "weigh in" on any of this till I read the above thread. For the record - I love Rossi's championship winning ways - but as a personality - (and I have said this before) he's always struck me as over-aged frat boy. His antic clowning and hi-jinks in front the cameras and the knowing winks etc - I find tiresome. He manipulates the media like any cheesy showbiz personality, panders to the unwashed masses out there - who aren't really looking for any deep meaning in anything he says or does; they just want to be entertained. FFS - he's a motorcycle racer, he not a great philosopher or a peace-maker. He a sportsman. I'd say that description fits most of the guys who race. Few of them strike me as deep thinkers. Some like Roberts, Baylis and Haga give the appearance of great character - like you'd expect from some cowboy out of a Zane Gray novel. But in the end it's what they do on the racetrack that I find interesting. My problem with the majority of the Rossiboppers is that their interest in racing per se - is mostly superficial and overly focused on the pathetically limited facets of that shallow construct that Rossi passes off as a personality when he's near any form of media. I doubt anyone outside of his inner circle has a clue to what he's like in his private life. But that won't stop his groupies from their Teen Magazine fantasizing about what it would be like to have a beer with their hero. Given the opportunity to toss one back with the racer of my choice - it would be Hailwood, Roberts, Sheene, Saarinen, Dunlop, Rainey etc. with Rossi way way down the list.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Nov 30 2009, 01:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Jeez I am bored. I wasn't going to "weigh in" on any of this till I read the above thread. For the record - I love Rossi's championship winning ways - but as a personality - (and I have said this before) he's always struck me as over-aged frat boy. His antic clowning and hi-jinks in front the cameras and the knowing winks etc - I find tiresome. He manipulates the media like any cheesy showbiz personality, panders to the unwashed masses out there - who aren't really looking for any deep meaning in anything he says or does; they just want to be entertained. FFS - he's a motorcycle racer, he not a great philosopher or a peace-maker. He a sportsman. I'd say that description fits most of the guys who race. Few of them strike me as deep thinkers. Some like Roberts, Baylis and Haga give the appearance of great character - like you'd expect from some cowboy out of a Zane Gray novel. But in the end it's what they do on the racetrack that I find interesting. My problem with the majority of the Rossiboppers is that their interest in racing per se - is mostly superficial and overly focused on the pathetically limited facets of that shallow construct that Rossi passes off as a personality when he's near any form of media. I doubt anyone outside of his inner circle has a clue to what he's like in his private life. But that won't stop his groupies from their Teen Magazine fantasizing about what it would be like to have a beer with their hero. Given the opportunity to toss one back with the racer of my choice - it would be Hailwood, Roberts, Sheene, Saarinen, Dunlop, Rainey etc. with Rossi way way down the list.


Thanks for your opinion, like ........-we all have one. And this is the point......

I do agree that there of course the mainly uniformed-watching just to see what Rossi does- fans out there, Tiger has them, Jordan had them, Doohan had them, Fogarty had them.......any sportsman who accels well beyond his peers gathers this kind of attention, and guess what? There is nothing wrong with that, if these fans bring money and attention to the sport we all benefit, Dorna has however done its best to undo all of the good work done in the booming years prior to the 800's.

You want to talk Fanaticism, Motogp doesn't even rate against the likes of the English Premier League.

What you also have to consider is that there are also many very well informed, long term fans of the sport in all its categories, Professional riders and technical professionals who also support VR-1st and foremost because of his abilities on a Motorcycle, as Stoner fans support him for the same. Speaking of CS, he had a reference to VR as one of his idols on the 2007 Championship winning T-shirt. Casey a Rossi-Bopper.......?

The problem is that some like to tar all with the same 'bopper' brush in an attempt to draw attention away from support of Rossi's on-track abilities and ridicule the off-track antics-the latter are of course much easier to critique, others feel that is just plain uncool to support the Champ, claiming the essence of a 'True Fan' is only obtained through supporting the underdog.

Others are just as Blinded by their Patriarchal pride, there is nothing wrong with this either, in fact I have the utmost respect for Jumkie, Austin and other Hayden fans, they have the same never say die attitude as Nicky, this requires much more dedication than supporting VR or CS.

I don't dismiss your opinion on Rossi's Stage like antics, of course it is easy to see how some would not approve and find it OTT, each to their own, adds to the spice!