Rossiboppers- a scientific analysis

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Nov 19 2009, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don,t think spellcheck covers surnames?

And that wasn,t even my accidental on purpose spelling mistake

.......can I use the keyboard mis-strike excuse? Cheers.


Listen to me Bunyip.... DO NOT be afraid of Mr. Apostrophe. Go ahead and use him, it's ok my friend he won't bite.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Nov 19 2009, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>MR MDub, What spelling don,t you like? Spell check is american and gets many of our words wrong.

Rosssi is too easy to follow- he wins, he smiles for the camera, he has charisma, he creates humour (and that means his behind the scenes manipulating is easier to excuse). Following Stoner is much harder: the lack of charisma, the limited praise of his combatants, his constant injuries and poor health. I think it would (would have been) easy to support Toseland. Charming in person, dogged spirit, a talented musician. I think we Stoner fans deserve a lot of credit for supporting the sour one. You see, its a bit like being there with your poxy younger brother at the local tennis comp. He,s playing this cool guy (imagine Brad Pitt or George Clooney) and your brother is a weedy ugly guy that spits constantly. But you still support him, because he is family, and few others support him. He may also happen to be a bloody good tennis player, that is a real pleasure to watch. Freakish shots you don,t see very often.


Thats like watching a ...... movie because it was filmed near your hometown. Would you rather watch a movie where all the actors are wooden and laconic and the movie lacks any real plot or a movie with humor and charisma that although we dont know how it will end it has been a great show so far?


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Nov 19 2009, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This past few years I have stopped supporting our national rugby league and cricket teams. When we play NZ in league, I go for them. When our cricket team plays anybody, I hope for an upset, Why? Because there comes a time when you perceive arrogance in a team , and the less talented , but dedicated opponent seems more appealing. You support the underdog. Many people do, because they see the less talented one having a real go, and the other guy has most of the support anyway. Thats why I have an issue with fair-weather fans; There is no commitment to the guy that fails, the guy that is less appealing. There is more of a desire to protect ones own feelings than show dedicated support to an also ran.

You are a fair weather fan to the third degree! You stopped supporting your national rugby and cricket teams because they are good? Now I see why you didn't rebut my ...... blast in my first post.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Nov 19 2009, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Obviously not all Rossi fans are fair -weather fans , but I do believe that the loudest Rossi supporters here may well fit that category, and I was only giving a reason why. I specifically mentioned the fact that I support Casey more than CV now, so I am not perfect either. However Alex Espargaro is my no 2.
I was a touch provocative, but wanted to see how long FWF no 1 talpa would take to respond And Babel too........

.............................3 months to go

ps Mdub- did you spot the spelling mistake?

Your ....... crazy. Please delete this desperate cry for attention bunflip calls a thread, stat.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Nov 20 2009, 07:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thats like watching a ...... movie because it was filmed near your hometown. Would you rather watch a movie where all the actors are wooden and laconic and the movie lacks any real plot or a movie with humor and charisma that although we dont know how it will end it has been a great show so far?




You are a fair weather fan to the third degree! You stopped supporting your national rugby and cricket teams because they are good? Now I see why you didn't rebut my ...... blast in my first post.




Your ....... crazy. Please delete this desperate cry for attention bunflip calls a thread, stat.

HAHAHAHAHA............I do agree, Ben there should be limited access to thread starting, Bunny-Banned, Pinky-Life Ban!,

Ignore the troll guys he is on crack.

I remember commenting about the technical side things to a daughter of a MotoGP mechanic. I was going on about who had the best machine and I might have claimed so and so had superior equipment advantages others could only dream about and so on...blah blah blah...garrentied champion stuff. She said I was killing the "buzz". The motogp buzz. I realized at that point 2 things. One don't argue with 17 year old girls they are generally as stupid as hell so it's no use. Secondly, racing to a lot of people is entertainment and they are entertained by people and bored as hell by technical things. You are a bopper if you don't know .... about anything and think MotoGP is just some party like any other party and following the biggest most popular guy is cool and makes you cool. If you're 17 it's completely excusable. Otherwise you are fair game any time I get time to pay attention.


Kudos to the guy that actually comes to the conclusion that Rossi is great knowing the sport and knowing the difficulty of the mechanical side of the sport but I'm sure that this is not the 80% of all Rossi fans but so be it. Be a fan of anyone you want and I'll do the same.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Nov 19 2009, 11:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I remember commenting about the technical side things to a daughter of a MotoGP mechanic. I was going on about who had the best machine and I might have claimed so and so had superior equipment advantages others could only dream about and so on...blah blah blah...garrentied champion stuff. She said I was killing the "buzz". The motogp buzz. I realized at that point 2 things. One don't argue with 17 year old girls they are generally as stupid as hell so it's no use. Secondly, racing to a lot of people is entertainment and they are entertained by people and bored as hell by technical things. You are a bopper if you don't know .... about anything and think MotoGP is just some party like any other party and following the biggest most popular guy is cool and makes you cool. If you're 17 it's completely excusable. Otherwise you are fair game any time I get time to pay attention.


Kudos to the guy that actually comes to the conclusion that Rossi is great knowing the sport and knowing the difficulty of the mechanical side of the sport but I'm sure that this is not the 80% of all Rossi fans but so be it. Be a fan of anyone you want and I'll do the same.
How can you be sure, have you met all the Rossi fans and if not than please stop this BS......

what a ....... .......

Spies has more fans outside the USA... guess you better get that memo out stupid... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (inam @ Nov 20 2009, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How can you be sure, have you met all the Rossi fans and if not than please stop this BS......


I have ( or I'm sure I will do!! ) they are the ones pushing the religion canvassers out of the way so that they can extol the virtues of their one true lord!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Nov 20 2009, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have ( or I'm sure I will do!! ) they are the ones pushing the religion canvassers out of the way so that they can extol the virtues of their one true lord!!


Very funny, now go back to your sookland.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (inam @ Nov 20 2009, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Very funny, now go back to your sookland.
He hasn't left there since 07

[quote name='Talpa' date='Nov 19 2009, 08:50 AM' post='219207']


! My 12th 20+grand weekend toy in the shed does that all by itself!

Always supporting the loser due to allegiance is of course admirable, most people though prefer not to be disappointed week in week out, hence the fan base of successful teams, sportspeople etc. This is not insecurity, but common sense, most of us like being happy and not miserable constantly'

12 toys Talpa! Looks like you are a winner in all respects. How can I compete with that! i bet every night and morning you repeat your mantra to yourself........."I,m a winner, I,m a winner, I support a winner, I,m a winner". And I,m glad your common sense approach to life gives you constant fulfillment.

....................just that when the chips are down, I don,t want you in my corner...................


You have much to learn young Talpa.........you only gain wisdom from adversity, young grasshopper/paduan

Its really quite interesting how all the most rabid Rossiboppers have identified themselves with their strident denials and personal attacks. I could hardly have done a better job of netting this pack of extreme fans. It fulfills my argument with no further explanation. Mdublub, check. Curve ,check. Talpa, check, Inam check. Yup almost all present and accounted for. Now all I need to do is lock you in a room with Jumkie for a month of re-education

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Nov 19 2009, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its really quite interesting how all the most rabid Rossiboppers have identified themselves with their strident denials and personal attacks. I could hardly have done a better job of netting this pack of extreme fans. It fulfills my argument with no further explanation. Mdublub, check. Curve ,check. Talpa, check, Inam check. Yup almost all present and accounted for. Now all I need to do is lock you in a room with Jumkie for a month of re-education

A personal attack on defending ground is more justified than first blood bro.

Still, you have not answered my inquiry about you rooting for Edwards (half Australian) after Vermeulen, and not Stoner.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Nov 20 2009, 05:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>A personal attack on defending ground is more justified than first blood bro.

Still, you have not answered my inquiry about you rooting for Edwards (half Australian) after Vermeulen, and not Stoner.

Sorry, I missed your question.

I,m not sure why I should support Edwards before Stoner. Logic decrees that Stoner comes before Edwards, who comes before Espargaro. So you are half right, I am not totally consistent. Actually I am a big fan of Edwards too, even though he isn,t a tier 1 rider.He,s funny, he,s candid and he has a go. He rides to his limit thats not as high as some, but who cares; h,es one of the best 20 in the world and that makes him a joy to watch.

(Actually I like most of the riders, I just don,t like the boppers unevenhandedness about non Rossis)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Nov 19 2009, 11:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sorry, I missed your question.

I,m not sure why I should support Edwards before Stoner. Logic decrees that Stoner comes before Edwards, who comes before Espargaro. So you are half right, I am not totally consistent. Actually I am a big fan of Edwards too, even though he isn,t a tier 1 rider.He,s funny, he,s candid and he has a go. He rides to his limit thats not as high as some, but who cares; h,es one of the best 20 in the world and that makes him a joy to watch.

(Actually I like most of the riders, I just don,t like the boppers unevenhandedness about non Rossis)

Cool bro!

What a sorry attempt to be Jumkie-esque this thread was

I'm not buying into this one but whatever you are using for burley is the cheese Bunyip.

Actually I am buying in (work ain’t so f’ing busy right now)

I am reminded of a quote from Yasser Arafat of all people describing religion and he said it is a battle based around whose imaginary friend is the best.

So casting broad and meaningless generalizations seems to be the order of the day and I will continue along the same well trodden path.

In 2009 Ross was the best, and 2008, and in 2007 it was Stoner, then in 2006 Hayden and so on and so forth, I don’t need to cite all the way back to the wood bike contest won by Methuselah.

And we all argue on behalf of “our” riders (continuing that freaky stalker thing), being a Rossi bopper seems to mean however building an impenetrable wall of rhetoric and warped logic to deny years like 2006 and 2007. They begin to sound like conspiracy theory nuts, coming up with all kinds of .... to explain away what is simply “racing”. Rossi never lost because someone else was good, he lost because of (insert silliness here).

The premise always seems to be that Hayden is a luck champion and Stoner is a computer programmer, neither qualifies as a “rider” to a rossibopper. There is only one rider and all the other ones just circle around waiting to fall in behind him and join the “fans” in the reverent worship of their idol. Oh, and no mortal can beat him, but he knows that isn’t true which is why he is such a bitchy whiney sook.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Nov 20 2009, 05:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its really quite interesting how all the most rabid Rossiboppers have identified themselves with their strident denials and personal attacks. I could hardly have done a better job of netting this pack of extreme fans. It fulfills my argument with no further explanation. Mdublub, check. Curve ,check. Talpa, check, Inam check. Yup almost all present and accounted for. Now all I need to do is lock you in a room with Jumkie for a month of re-education
What you on about Bunyip, we (Curve, Talpa, Mdublub and Myself) are not creating any stoner hate threads unlike you and few others do it on ragular basis about Rossi so stop the BS and don't make yourself look like a fool anymore.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Nov 20 2009, 06:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Kudos to the guy that actually comes to the conclusion that Rossi is great knowing the sport and knowing the difficulty of the mechanical side of the sport but I'm sure that this is not the 80% of all Rossi fans but so be it. Be a fan of anyone you want and I'll do the same.
Plus One GS - you rational, logical Canuck, you!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Nov 20 2009, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I am reminded of a quote from Yasser Arafat of all people describing religion and he said it is a battle based around whose imaginary friend is the best.
Damn AR - would've been a good post if you had just stopped there!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (inam @ Nov 20 2009, 08:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What you on about Bunyip, we (Curve, Talpa, Mdublub and Myself) are not creating any stoner hate threads unlike you and few others do it on ragular basis about Rossi so stop the BS and don't make yourself look like a fool anymore.
This is where perspective comes in. It would be hard to argue that bunyip has not started an anti-rossi fan (some at least thereof) thread here, which I do not necessarily endorse, but any criticism of rossi himself is muted and speculative, based mainly on possible future performance on a ducati which more than likely will never happen, and with which as it transpires I disagree.

However from a stoner fan point of view, or from the point of view of this stoner fan anyway, several if not all of those you mention have strongly participated in directly anti-stoner rather than anti-stoner fan threads, particularly talpa who again from the perspective of this stoner fan at least has the virtue of being an unabashed stoner-hater, a stance which he is obviously entitled to take but with which stoner fans are entitled and can be expected to disagree .

(EDIT) I blame the otago pinot, but bunyip actually raised valentino's possible future failure on a ducati in a thread other than this. There is plenty of criticism of rossi fans from him on this thread which again I do not endorse, with some whom he mentioned among the posters I find very enjoyable and knowledgeable, but his only real criticism of valentino himself is that he sometimes manipulates behind the scenes, a view for which it is possible some case can be made .