Rossi Rues Set Up issues

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 13 2008, 10:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Esco ..... you are making him look worse and worse

Are you suggesting now that Rossi knew of this longevity problem well before the race and did nothing about it?

Something just don't gel again does it??
Not sure if this was covered elsewhere as I've been away in Tassie with no internet for a week and it's taken ages to skim read all the new (and largely similar ) threads, but Rossi said that they tried a different tyre for the race (presumably a harder one) after he had a similar issue in the morning warm-up.

He also said that the problem was not the tyres or the engine, but rather one of set-up. Last year the power delivery of the Yam / Rossi's riding style tended to be harder on tyres than the Hondas, so I guess that may still be an issue despite the change of manufacturer.

Also the chassis set-up will doubtless need to be significantly different with the Stones, possibly even more so for the cool temps of the Qatari night. During testing elsewhere he seemed to have less problems setting the bike up for race tyres than at Qatar.

I guess we'll find out more at Jerez.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Mar 15 2008, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not sure if this was covered elsewhere as I've been away in Tassie with no internet for a week... etc

Didn't happen to grow the required 2nd head while you were there did you?

Mind you, a week or 2 down there on a 1098 would be motorcycling heaven for me!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Mar 15 2008, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not sure if this was covered elsewhere as I've been away in Tassie with no internet for a week and it's taken ages to skim read all the new (and largely similar ) threads, but Rossi said that they tried a different tyre for the race (presumably a harder one) after he had a similar issue in the morning warm-up.

He also said that the problem was not the tyres or the engine, but rather one of set-up. Last year the power delivery of the Yam / Rossi's riding style tended to be harder on tyres than the Hondas, so I guess that may still be an issue despite the change of manufacturer.

Also the chassis set-up will doubtless need to be significantly different with the Stones, possibly even more so for the cool temps of the Qatari night. During testing elsewhere he seemed to have less problems setting the bike up for race tyres than at Qatar.

I guess we'll find out more at Jerez.


So are you saying he was on a hard tyre that peaked for him at 3 laps?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Mar 15 2008, 08:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not sure if this was covered elsewhere as I've been away in Tassie with no internet for a week and it's taken ages to skim read all the new (and largely similar ) threads, but Rossi said that they tried a different tyre for the race (presumably a harder one) after he had a similar issue in the morning warm-up.

He also said that the problem was not the tyres or the engine, but rather one of set-up. Last year the power delivery of the Yam / Rossi's riding style tended to be harder on tyres than the Hondas, so I guess that may still be an issue despite the change of manufacturer.

Also the chassis set-up will doubtless need to be significantly different with the Stones, possibly even more so for the cool temps of the Qatari night. During testing elsewhere he seemed to have less problems setting the bike up for race tyres than at Qatar.

I guess we'll find out more at Jerez.

That's how it looks like too. Despite that Jumkie think the tire was hit by an insect and a special lightning made it look teared the tire was teard, but that early in the race it almost certainly must be a setup problem unless someone did a very bad desition.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 15 2008, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So are you saying he was on a hard tyre that peaked for him at 3 laps?
Not quite. Rossi said that he tried a different tyre due to the issues he had in warm-up. If these issues were similar to the ones he had in the race then I'd think that a harder tyre would be the only thing that made sense. This would appear to mean that his harder tyre did indeed peak at lap 4 (1:55.693) and start to seriously fade after lap 12, which was his last lap below a 1:56.5.

Allegedly, Stoner was running a quite different compound (one of last years?) to Rossi, and possibly the other BStone users. Stoner's fastest lap came on lap 14, yet most other Bstone runners did their fastest lap very early on - Capi lap 6, Guintoli lap 3, Nakano lap 3, Elias lap 5, Vermeulen lap 4. Not sure how much can really be read into this though, as MRNG did his on lap 15 even if it was 1.8 secs slower than Stoner's and slower than every lap Stoner did except for the standing start

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (muzzy57 @ Mar 15 2008, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Didn't happen to grow the required 2nd head while you were there did you?

Mind you, a week or 2 down there on a 1098 would be motorcycling heaven for me!
No second head - takes more than a week and you need to drink a lot of Boags/Cascade (delete "enemy" city's brew as appropriate) apparently

Seriously the roads are something else - rented a Scooby Forester and had a ball. Luckily the only time I saw cop it was on the way to the Freycinet peninsula on the B34 (stunning) in a long right hander with a 65kph recommended sign. Was "only" doing about 110kph when I saw him, so avoided even being stopped! Some of the roads are so smooth that they begged for a good blast on a bike. Mind you, the amount of road kill also needed to be seen to be believed - poor traction there.