Rossi Out After Malaysia

ptk50 · Oct 5, 2010

Pigeon said:
DON'T blame Rossi for Whoregay bringing it to Vale

Best racing of the season and Horegay cries "he pushed me daddy" What a f....g wimp. ImO Yamaha is in the ..... Rossi and HG were fighting for 3rd and were well behind the duc and the Honda, which simply have not just more topspeed, but lots more acceleration. At the start of the season Yam was handling way better than duc and Honda and even the already injured Rossi was winning - that continued until Honda fixed both handling and power and Stoner went back to his 2009 forks. 2011 - Rossi on the duc will be back to racing. I see Pedro in there fighting - not sure if Stoner won't start falling off the Honda again - and HG saying goodbye to his 1 year WC status.

Kropotkin · Oct 5, 2010

Jumkie said:
Allow me to preface it with this; I've had the privilege of being involved in minor level racing (in a rather minor capacity), yet I've come to realize motorcycle racing is made up of over sensitive pouting egos across the board.

Just motorcycle racing? Not like those humble, generous souls over in the NFL? Or in fact, any other sport you care to mention ....

Sport at any level requires a sociopathic level of focus and dedication. It is not a pursuit for well-rounded individuals. Sportsmen and women at the very highest level in every discipline are completely ...... up.

Jumkie · Oct 5, 2010

Kropotkin said:
Just motorcycle racing? Not like those humble, generous souls over in the NFL? Or in fact, any other sport you care to mention ....

Sport at any level requires a sociopathic level of focus and dedication. It is not a pursuit for well-rounded individuals. Sportsmen and women at the very highest level in every discipline are completely ...... up.

I stand corrected. I admit, my foley was, I had a naive higher expectation for what I erroneously thought would be a "..... free" sport; but I found I was wrong. I increasingly like your takes about the world Kropo. Do you have any comment on the rest of my post?

dwoodhouse · Oct 5, 2010

Ngads said:
Very good point.

As in Rossi possibly taking off because he is not racing well and people are ok with that. (myself included) But with Stoner taking 3 races off with his "mystery illness" every1 criticized him (I did a lot) even tho it affected his daily life not just on the track. Double standard

There are still quite a lot who thought there was nothing wrong with him except in need of a few sleeps and fishing. That doesn't make double standards as we know there is something physically wrong with Rossi (or we find it more believable).

Jumkie · Oct 5, 2010

woody996 said:
There are still quite a lot who thought there was nothing wrong with him except in need of a few sleeps and fishing. That doesn't make double standards as we know there is something physically wrong with Rossi (or we find it more believable).

Operative word: "we".

You know as much of his shoulder injury as you do of Casey's illness. Don't you?

dwoodhouse · Oct 5, 2010

Yes I did have an issue with stoners illness. Maybe it's because I don't get it that something like he said can have that much of an effect. I know about shoulders however having played football for a number of years and have seen a lot of reconstructions.

Jumkie · Oct 5, 2010

woody996 said:
Yes I did have an issue with stoners illness. Maybe it's because I don't get it that something like he said can have that much of an effect. I know about shoulders however having played football for a number of years and have seen a lot of reconstructions.

I don't doubt you know about shoulder injuries in general (having played football which I guess makes you qualified as anybody else around here). But that wasn't my question, was it.

dwoodhouse · Oct 5, 2010

So your point is that I don't really know about either Rossi or stoners condition because I'm not sitting with them at the doctor. No pun intended. You are correct so where does that leave us? I like everyone else make a decision as to what to believe. We all know how much things are not as they seem...

Keshav · Oct 5, 2010

woody996 said:
Yes I did have an issue with stoners illness. Maybe it's because I don't get it that something like he said can have that much of an effect. I know about shoulders however having played football for a number of years and have seen a lot of reconstructions.

PLEASE! Don't start this ........ again. We all know that Rossifans are capable of believing anything that suits them

and nothing in the way of facts that if it might distract them from cheerleading practice. This dead horse isn't going to

get any deader.

Goatboy · Oct 5, 2010

Keshav said:
We all know that Rossifans are capable of believing anything that suits them

and nothing in the way of facts that might distract them from cheerleading practice

Now there is a door that swings both ways if ever I saw one.

johnnyvvc · Oct 5, 2010

Regardless of what happened in the race Yamaha has a contract with both riders & should not be siding with one or the other no matter what is at stake or all we are heading for isan F1 joke.

Rossi Fans - Dont moan about Lorenzo as he was doing what he is paid to do. He started the fight & put his title on the line too. Brave but stupid.

Lorenzo Fans - Dont moan about Rossi as why should he concede, he is doing what he paid to do, he would get more abuse if he did just roll over.

Yamaha - Hang your ....... heads in shame people. Out of all the manufactureres they have lost the most in yield so not only are they losing the biggest single selling point in motorcycling they are setting themselves up for one mighty fall from grace with their attitude.

Im not saying Rossi hasnt stoked the fire as he knew what would go down after that fight but Lorenzo & Yamaha are playing right into his hands. The more they try & turn the screw, the harder its going to come back at them - history has proven this before & it WILL prove it again.

2 final points -

1 - Stoner on a Honda with Bridgies is gonna be one fast ......!

2 - More fairing bashing please

Johnny

dwoodhouse · Oct 5, 2010

Keshav said:
PLEASE! Don't start this ........ again. We all know that Rossifans are capable of believing anything that suits them

and nothing in the way of facts that if it might distract them from cheerleading practice. This dead horse isn't going to

get any deader.

I have no desire to get into an argument about stoner. Your post did show your own bias though.

Jumkie · Oct 5, 2010

woody996 said:
So your point is that I don't really know about either Rossi or stoners condition because I'm not sitting with them at the doctor. No pun intended. You are correct so where does that leave us? I like everyone else make a decision as to what to believe. We all know how much things are not as they seem...

I suppose it leaves us with the predicament of believing both Stoner and Rossi.

woody996 said:
Yes I did have an issue with stoners illness. Maybe it's because I don't get it that something like he said can have that much of an effect.

But you believe only one. But you admit you know about the same for either. Logical?

woody996 said:
Your post did show your own bias though.

^^^

J4rn0 · Oct 5, 2010

Kropotkin said:
.......................

Sport at any level requires a sociopathic level of focus and dedication. It is not a pursuit for well-rounded individuals. Sportsmen and women at the very highest level in every discipline are completely ...... up.

True. But... what about us then? Passionate students and observers of the deeds and behavior of a few ......-up individuals?

Kropotkin · Oct 5, 2010

J4rn0 said:
True. But... what about us then? Passionate students and observers of the deeds and behavior of a few ......-up individuals?

They are the people who make snuff videos. We are the people who pay a thousand bucks to watch a snuff video. Who is the real sicko?

babelfish · Oct 5, 2010

Jumkie said:
Yamaha, regardless of how they handled the situation, and by all standards, did so very diplomatically, will now have to deal with various fan opinions.

LOL, Go on have your usual go at Rossi fans but calling Yamaha diplomatic is about as fair as calling Pedrosa a stand-up comedian.

This is not about being fair or not, they went public and by doing that threw away every shred of diplomacy. This is of course Lin Jarvis' work and he probably got what he asked for. But going all in with Rossi on the other side is usually not the smartest thing to do. Time will sow

Lorenzo, is doing what other riders have done, that is to advocate for themselves, and is doing it in stark similar fashion as some others.

True, no reason to nag about JLo except that he seems to go the same way as the others. It doesn't look like the smartest way to go but that's his problem, not mine.

Kropotkin · Oct 5, 2010

woody996 said:
Yes I did have an issue with stoners illness. Maybe it's because I don't get it that something like he said can have that much of an effect.

You could always read up about it on the internet, if you were interested enough.

Goatboy · Oct 5, 2010

Kropotkin said:
You could always read up about it on the internet, if you were interested enough.

It would still tell you absolutely nothing about the way he felt.

BarryMachine · Oct 5, 2010

johnnyvvc said:
2 - More fairing bashing please

Johnny

This bit to me sums up the diference between "inside the fence" and "outside the fence".

Inside the fence: Fairing bashing is the fastest way to slow down a race. If you have the time to "bash fairings" then you are not racing, as was indicated that these two were languishing down in 3 and 4, and whilst they were exchanging handbags Stoner and Dovi were running away with it.

I'm saying it again, the "fairing bashing" is not buying Rossi any "browny points" with the other riders. But mostly every time a rider shows the propensity to 'fairing bash', its gone down as a weakness.

Nothing gets cred with the other riders more than a runaway win

Some spectators don't like it but meh, that means nothing to the riders

especially when they see other riders who get involved in "fairing bashing" as ..........

You can get fairing contact in a good race but it will never be due to some "vendetta" or other "ego based problem", those kind of fairing contacts only occur back in the pack, as we saw

chopperman · Oct 5, 2010

Kropotkin said:
You could always read up about it on the internet, if you were interested enough.

I don't think anybody is disputing the debilitating effects of Lactose intolerance. I thing i found strange with stoner was how quickly the complaint came about. Normally people are born with this or develop it over time. Stoners seemed to develop this complaint over night. Then there was the months of tests carried out by doctors all over the world and non could diagnose what was wrong with Casey. There were reports of casey not eating properly in fact i read somewhere that Casey was only eating chocolate, and tons of it!

Now you may be able to point me in the right direction for some reading as you're in the know? I only remember the Lactose intolerance diagnosis being made when fans were pretty pissed stoner went fishing and no doctors could explain why he couldn't race. I don't remember any credible reports on his illness. In fact i heard at the time that it was personal and Casey wanted to keep it that way. Maybe you're in a position to guide me?

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