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Rd 5 WSBK Monza

povol

povol

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A little early, but some big news, at least to me. It seems Monza has modified the very slow right left chicane at the end of the front straight. That was ONE spot the Ducati seemed to really be able to make time in the past.. This is a huge adjustment to the track..



Monza, like the previous circuit of Assen in the Netherlands, is an iconic venue, and one that has high average speed at the centre of its character, despite the presence of several chicanes to slow down the 200bhp-plus World Superbike machines.



A classic venue in every sense, Monza is an essential stopping off point for any fan that wishes to understand the passion and heritage that underpins Italian Motorsport.



The first chicane has been altered for this year’s race, making it a faster and more flowing section, which is expected to take the times down between 1.5 and two seconds per lap.



My picks

Race 1



Biaggi



Rea



Haslam



Race 2



Rea



Haslam



Biaggi
 
The same chicane that brought Max Neukirchner's career to a halt? Monza is one of my favorite tracks, but a change to those terrible chicanes is certainly welcome. I'm anxious to see how this change plays out. As it was before, it was one of the worst corners in all racing for a turn 1 at race start.



Fabrizio was fastest at the recent test in Misano, but Haga was ill. Rea coming off a double win. Haslam consistently fast all year. Biaggi is back on home turf and Camier has been showing some amazing speed on the Aprilia. Corser seems to be on a roll and really happy with his BMW. Checa has been up there all year. Toseland had a great weekend at Assen. This one is going to be hard to call.
 
Sure to go down to the last lap/corner in at least one of the races.



R1

1. Haslam

2. Biaggi

3. Corser



R2

1. Corser

2. Toseland

3. Camier
 
The worst thing about WSBK at the moment is making picks! There are at least 10 or 11 riders that can podium on any given day
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Yep,a real toughie to call for deffo,I`ll pick......



Race 1

1.Corser

2.Haslam

3.Toseland



Race 2

1.Biaggi

2.Haslam

3.Rea.



but who knows what Italian patronage will do on the day................one way or another!
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it's nice that wsbk have most of this years rounds on weekends with no gp.
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race1

1. biaggi

2. rea

3. haslam

4. toseland

5. camier



race2

1. rea

2. haslam

3. haga

4. camier

5. toseland
 
Bootsakah said:
The same chicane that brought Max Neukirchner's career to a halt? Monza is one of my favorite tracks, but a change to those terrible chicanes is certainly welcome. I'm anxious to see how this change plays out. As it was before, it was one of the worst corners in all racing for a turn 1 at race start.
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Good call. That was a horendous crash last year and seems to happen every year at that chicane. The first corner of every track is a bit sketchy but this one takes the cake. Im very interested to see what they have done as Monza is one of my favorite tracks that I someday wish to go check out.



Picks, man its tough. I really want to stick to the Ducati squad as 1-2 but they haven't been anywhere all year. Here it goes anyway



Haga

Haslem

Fabrizio



Fabrizio

Rea

Haga



My heart would really like to see Corser up on the podium. People I would also like to see do well, Camier, Biagii, and Roger Hayden
 
Bootsakah said:
The same chicane that brought Max Neukirchner's career to a halt? Monza is one of my favorite tracks, but a change to those terrible chicanes is certainly welcome. I'm anxious to see how this change plays out. As it was before, it was one of the worst corners in all racing for a turn 1 at race start.



Fabrizio was fastest at the recent test in Misano, but Haga was ill. Rea coming off a double win. Haslam consistently fast all year. Biaggi is back on home turf and Camier has been showing some amazing speed on the Aprilia. Corser seems to be on a roll and really happy with his BMW. Checa has been up there all year. Toseland had a great weekend at Assen. This one is going to be hard to call.
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Toseland lost a team mate there in WSS coupla years ago,wasn`t it Michael Paquay?RIP.
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Monza - Free practice times (1)

Full free practice times (1) for the fifth round of the World Superbike Championship at Monza, Italy.

1. Cal Crutchlow GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda YZF R1 1min 43.758s

2. Michel Fabrizio ITA Ducati Xerox 1198 1min 43.844s

3. Jonathan Rea GBR Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 44.004s

4. Leon Haslam GBR Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 44.043s

5. James Toseland GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda YZF R1 1min 44.190s

6. Max Biaggi ITA Aprilia Alitalia Racing RSV-4 1min 44.259s

7. Troy Corser AUS BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 44.416s

8. Leon Camier GBR Aprilia Alitalia Racing RSV-4 1min 44.489s

9. Ruben Xaus ESP BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 44.547s

10. Max Neukirchner GER Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 44.597s

11. Tom Sykes GBR Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 1min 44.769s

12. Noriyuki Haga JPN Ducati Xerox 1198 1min 44.951s

13. Jakub Smrz CZE PATA B&G Racing Ducati 1198 1min 45.095s

14. Lorenzo Lanzi ITA DFX Ducati 1198 1min 45.206s

15. Carlos Checa ESP Althea Ducati 1198 1min 45.399s

16. Luca Scassa ITA Supersonic Ducati 1198 1min 45.579s

17. Shane Byrne GBR Althea Ducati 1198 1min 46.014s

18. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 46.091s

19. Broc Parkes AUS Echo-CRS Honda CBR1000RR 1min 46.264s

20. Chris Vermeulen AUS Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 1min 46.418s

21. Daisaku Sakai JPN Yoshimura Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 46.739s

22. Roger Lee Hayden USA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 46.812s

23. Matteo Baiocco ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 46.924s

24. Vittorio Iannuzzo ITA SCI Garvie CBR1000RR 1min 47.122s
 
Want to see Rea, Biaggi, Haslam, and Toseland battle this weekend.

Pulling for Biaggi!
 
Just looked up the speeds since Monza has that long ... straight. Biaggi's little Aprilia hit 203 mph to top thr speed chart
 
Provisional Pole



Monza - Qualifying times (1)



Full qualifying times (1) for the fifth round of the World Superbike Championship at Monza, Italy.



1. Cal Crutchlow GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda YZF R1 1min 44.577s

2. Jonathan Rea GBR Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 44.789s

3. Michel Fabrizio ITA Ducati Xerox 1198 1min 45.134s

4. Troy Corser AUS BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 45.234s

5. Leon Haslam GBR Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 45.303s

6. Ruben Xaus ESP BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 45.542s

7. Max Biaggi ITA Aprilia Alitalia Racing RSV-4 1min 45.592s

8. Jakub Smrz CZE PATA B&G Racing Ducati 1198 1min 45.603s

9. James Toseland GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda YZF R1 1min 46.019s

10. Luca Scassa ITA Supersonic Ducati 1198 1min 45.111s

11. Tom Sykes GBR Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 1min 46.170s

12. Leon Camier GBR Aprilia Alitalia Racing RSV-4 1min 46.216s

13. Max Neukirchner GER Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 46.402s

14. Lorenzo Lanzi ITA DFX Ducati 1198 1min 46.413s

15. Noriyuki Haga JPN Ducati Xerox 1198 1min 46.451s

16. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 46.588s

17. Carlos Checa ESP Althea Ducati 1198 1min 46.756s

18. Shane Byrne GBR Althea Ducati 1198 1min 47.466s

19. Daisaku Sakai JPN Yoshimura Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 47.922s

20. Matteo Baiocco ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 48.041s

21. Chris Vermeulen AUS Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 1min 46.191s

22. Broc Parkes AUS Echo-CRS Honda CBR1000RR 1min 48.254s

23. Roger Lee Hayden USA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 49.217s

24. Vittorio Iannuzzo ITA SCI Garvie CBR1000RR 1min 49.958s



Superpole Tomorrow
 
Haga seems like a broke rider, 2 seconds off pace. Age and everything that goes with it seems to have caught up to him overnight
 
Times are down from FP1? Wet track, temp change?



Crutchlow putting in his one off fast laps or does he have consistent pace this time? Toesland is almost 1.5 sec off Crutchlow's fastest.



With exception of Fabrizio, it looks like most of the usual suspect Ducati's are struggling. New corner changes having some effect?



BMW, Corser is right up there again, If he picks up front row on Superpole day, he could very well get the holeshot again and lead the race. I expect another good weekend from him, but will he last race distance. Xaus is looking pretty good, a top 8 finish would be nice if he can manage to keep it on track.



Rea, Haslam, they're going to be right up there come race day.
 
Spies said the new Yamaha is better than his from last year, but he was taking .... for not developing the bike at all
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Haga, man, I really wanted him to do well. I wonder if Ducati pulled the pin on him. I still have faith for him come race day.



I also really want to see Corser rewarded for all the hard work they put in. That would be awesome.



Rodger Lee needs a 600



Fabrizio, Rea, Haslem look really strong



Im not sold on Crutchlow, it seems he can throw down the quick lap, but has a problem with putting a race together.



I love Monza. What a great track.
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Bootsakah said:
Times are down from FP1? Wet track, temp change?



Crutchlow putting in his one off fast laps or does he have consistent pace this time? Toesland is almost 1.5 sec off Crutchlow's fastest.



With exception of Fabrizio, it looks like most of the usual suspect Ducati's are struggling. New corner changes having some effect?



BMW, Corser is right up there again, If he picks up front row on Superpole day, he could very well get the holeshot again and lead the race. I expect another good weekend from him, but will he last race distance. Xaus is looking pretty good, a top 8 finish would be nice if he can manage to keep it on track.



Rea, Haslam, they're going to be right up there come race day.
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I would guess heat change, not enough difference for a wet track.



I guessed in the opening topic that the new chican would have an affect on the Ducati, since the old layout was almost stop and go and really favored the acceleration of the Ducati
 

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