Rate the competition During the Rossi Era
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gudang @ Mar 9 2008, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>'michaelm' NO HE WASENT!!! If u look at the stats and i know that MD did do and beat WR but if u look at most of the gp’s WR was the KING!!! And MD just didn’t have the mustard to beat him especially at the Australian GP at Phillip Island!!! Where WR was king!!! Please look at the stats and compare WR to MD!!!! And then u will see what an awesome rider WR was!!! I’m an aussie and I really support our riders but WR was a legend in comparison to what we eva had!!!
I can see there could be some ambiguity in my post. I was referring specifically to 1992,when doohan was 65 points ahead and I think had won 5 out of 7 races prior to his crash at assen.
I can see there could be some ambiguity in my post. I was referring specifically to 1992,when doohan was 65 points ahead and I think had won 5 out of 7 races prior to his crash at assen.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Evolution @ Mar 9 2008, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why would anyone waste time answering troll talk
cause WE WAHT to inform the uninformed!!! and the Idiots!!!
cause WE WAHT to inform the uninformed!!! and the Idiots!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gudang @ Mar 9 2008, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes Tom and its nice to talk to u mate!!! but the 125’s 250’s are just that!!! Toys!!! U cannot compare a world champ in the top class especially when ur talking 500’s that were so much more erratic to anything in the lower classes!!! U had to be a kamikaze pilot to ride a 500cc gp bike when they were so underdeveloped and without tc!!! And that is why I’m saying that Wayne Rainey was the best that I’ve eva seen...and I’ve seem Kenny Roberts, Freddy Spencer, Randy Mamola, Ron Haslam, Eddie Lawson, Wayne Gardner, Wayne Rainey with Mick Doohan and Kevin Schwantz!!! But Mr. Schwants and Mr. Doohan could neva eva beat Mr. Wayne Rainey!!! Just remember that!!! it took that tragic accident for them to beat HIM and for KS to be world champ and after MD to achive theur WCP's success!!!
And Mr. Schwants & Mr. Doohan would have neva eva won a world championship in the 500cc’s if he didn’t have that tragic accident!!!...well neva if WR was there with his class!!!
please folks look at the stats and compare WR to KS & MD its all there 4u to comapre and ive done so!!! The stats prove everything of how great a rider Wayne Rainey WAS!!! And could have been!!! He would have set the standard ....and never mind Valentino Rossi he would have been a pup and shitting yellow if u know what I mean!!!...or do u???
I think that using an "if" Raniey hadn't have crashed approach is meaningless. "If" Doohan didn't stack in 92 it is possible to believe he'd have 7 world titles!! And if you want to look at the stats they will tell you that Eddie Lawson was the best american rider ever and the best of his era.
Furthermore i accept that the 500's were impressive to ride because the peanalties for mistakes were far higher than the relatively safe racing we have nowdays, but I think to ride a motogp bike to a world title now is as hard as it ever has been. If the danger element alone holds that much weight then i would argue that you should consider John McGuinness the best rider in the world today.
And Mr. Schwants & Mr. Doohan would have neva eva won a world championship in the 500cc’s if he didn’t have that tragic accident!!!...well neva if WR was there with his class!!!
please folks look at the stats and compare WR to KS & MD its all there 4u to comapre and ive done so!!! The stats prove everything of how great a rider Wayne Rainey WAS!!! And could have been!!! He would have set the standard ....and never mind Valentino Rossi he would have been a pup and shitting yellow if u know what I mean!!!...or do u???
I think that using an "if" Raniey hadn't have crashed approach is meaningless. "If" Doohan didn't stack in 92 it is possible to believe he'd have 7 world titles!! And if you want to look at the stats they will tell you that Eddie Lawson was the best american rider ever and the best of his era.
Furthermore i accept that the 500's were impressive to ride because the peanalties for mistakes were far higher than the relatively safe racing we have nowdays, but I think to ride a motogp bike to a world title now is as hard as it ever has been. If the danger element alone holds that much weight then i would argue that you should consider John McGuinness the best rider in the world today.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Mar 10 2008, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I can see there could be some ambiguity in my post. I was referring specifically to 1992,when doohan was 65 points ahead and I think had won 5 out of 7 races prior to his crash at assen.
yes but WR would have kicked MD's ...!!! he was just under pressure and the Yamy wasn’t work ink to well to the last year and that is why he had the accident and lost that great ability of his to kick MD's ...!!! ITS SUCH A SHAME!!! and i was so devastated to see that accident on that day!!! I was really crying and that was even though i was barracking for MD!!! WR was a great rider and a CHAMP!!! Don’t any one on this forum think otherwise!!! He was one of the best if NOT THE BEST!!!
yes but WR would have kicked MD's ...!!! he was just under pressure and the Yamy wasn’t work ink to well to the last year and that is why he had the accident and lost that great ability of his to kick MD's ...!!! ITS SUCH A SHAME!!! and i was so devastated to see that accident on that day!!! I was really crying and that was even though i was barracking for MD!!! WR was a great rider and a CHAMP!!! Don’t any one on this forum think otherwise!!! He was one of the best if NOT THE BEST!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gudang @ Mar 9 2008, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>he was leading that race anyways!!!
Rainey's crash was in 1993 and he was well ahead of doohan that year after doohan's crash in 1992. It distressed me greatly too, almost as badly as senna's crash; it was obvious from the start that it was bad.
Rainey's crash was in 1993 and he was well ahead of doohan that year after doohan's crash in 1992. It distressed me greatly too, almost as badly as senna's crash; it was obvious from the start that it was bad.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Mar 10 2008, 01:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think that using an "if" Raniey hadn't have crashed approach is meaningless. "If" Doohan didn't stack in 92 it is possible to believe he'd have 7 world titles!! And if you want to look at the stats they will tell you that Eddie Lawson was the best american rider ever and the best of his era.
Furthermore i accept that the 500's were impressive to ride because the peanalties for mistakes were far higher than the relatively safe racing we have nowdays, but I think to ride a motogp bike to a world title now is as hard as it ever has been. If the danger element alone holds that much weight then i would argue that you should consider John McGuinness the best rider in the world today.
yes Tom but that was after the horse has bolted!!! there was no opposition in the 500cc’s field for MD!!! I COULD HAVE WON 10 WC'S THEN!!!...hhheeee....that is why MD did!!! and + he had the best 500cc bike and the fastest in the field and he could ride it the best!!! Of course there is NO if OR butt’s but MD was just to unexperienced and a fool to come off at Assen the way he did and in that place and situation!!! come on!!! yes that was a very tragic accident but the guy was just to inexperienced and foolish to do so and plus as WR did hes WC was on the line and under pressure and that is why he was pushed and did what he did!!! u know where im coming from??? lets be fair!!! cause WR was a better rider then MD would eva be!!!
Furthermore i accept that the 500's were impressive to ride because the peanalties for mistakes were far higher than the relatively safe racing we have nowdays, but I think to ride a motogp bike to a world title now is as hard as it ever has been. If the danger element alone holds that much weight then i would argue that you should consider John McGuinness the best rider in the world today.
yes Tom but that was after the horse has bolted!!! there was no opposition in the 500cc’s field for MD!!! I COULD HAVE WON 10 WC'S THEN!!!...hhheeee....that is why MD did!!! and + he had the best 500cc bike and the fastest in the field and he could ride it the best!!! Of course there is NO if OR butt’s but MD was just to unexperienced and a fool to come off at Assen the way he did and in that place and situation!!! come on!!! yes that was a very tragic accident but the guy was just to inexperienced and foolish to do so and plus as WR did hes WC was on the line and under pressure and that is why he was pushed and did what he did!!! u know where im coming from??? lets be fair!!! cause WR was a better rider then MD would eva be!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gudang @ Mar 9 2008, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yes Tom but that was after the horse has bolted!!! there was no opposition in the 500cc’s field for MD!!! I COULD HAVE WON 10 WC'S THEN!!!...hhheeee....that is why MD did!!! and + he had the best 500cc bike and the fastest in the field and he could ride it the best!!! Of course there is NO if OR butt’s but MD was just to unexperienced and a fool to come off at Assen the way he did and in that place and situation!!! come on!!! yes that was a very tragic accident but the guy was just to inexperienced and foolish to do so and plus as WR did hes WC was on the line and under pressure and that is why he was pushed and did what he did!!! u know where im coming from??? lets be fair!!! cause WR was a better rider then MD would eva be!!!
Well surely with the same standard Rainey was an ..... to fall off his bike when leading the race, he was already at the front!! Also Doohan's competition perhaps appeared weak because he was so superior to them, they were still the best riders in the world and thats all the competition can ever be.
Well surely with the same standard Rainey was an ..... to fall off his bike when leading the race, he was already at the front!! Also Doohan's competition perhaps appeared weak because he was so superior to them, they were still the best riders in the world and thats all the competition can ever be.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Mar 10 2008, 01:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rainey's crash was in 1993 and he was well ahead of doohan that year after doohan's crash in 1992. It distressed me greatly too, almost as badly as senna's crash; it was obvious from the start that it was bad.
No I saw WR crash in 1993....and I dint think anything of it when I saw it!!! I thought it was a real soft crash!!! But when all the medics came and were there with him and all the appliances were put then I was really SAD!!! Because I REALLY admire him even thought I barracked for MD because I’m an Australian!!! But I felt SO SAD!!!
Cause WR was a great rider and I admired WR for being SUCH A CHAMPION!!!
This is how I feel and "I call a spade a spade'!!! i dont care what country they come from and that is why VR is and I cannot compare him to the past greats!!!.... YES HE US GREAT!! BUT he cannot be comapared to the past!!!...SORRY!!! this is how i feel!!!
No I saw WR crash in 1993....and I dint think anything of it when I saw it!!! I thought it was a real soft crash!!! But when all the medics came and were there with him and all the appliances were put then I was really SAD!!! Because I REALLY admire him even thought I barracked for MD because I’m an Australian!!! But I felt SO SAD!!!
Cause WR was a great rider and I admired WR for being SUCH A CHAMPION!!!
This is how I feel and "I call a spade a spade'!!! i dont care what country they come from and that is why VR is and I cannot compare him to the past greats!!!.... YES HE US GREAT!! BUT he cannot be comapared to the past!!!...SORRY!!! this is how i feel!!!
