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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Mar 9 2007, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=28432 they'er pretty slow aaeee...

wow..8mph slower!?

VALE IS GOD!

top speed is nothing. unless it's drag racing. but the yamahas can corner also.

i wouldn't say top speed is nothing...


HEY what were the TOP SPEEDS on the 990s??...i can't fii\nd it anywhere..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R-46 @ Mar 9 2007, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>top speed is nothing. unless it's drag racing. but the yamahas can corner also.
You're right mate, the Yamaha is blitzing the others through the corners and this is why it could be a good year for Colin as well as Rossi! How do you think Stoner is going to handle a WHOLE RACE full of corners at a quicker speed this year? Can't see him doing very well as a bull rider either.

FOUND IT!

2006 Losail Circuit
MotoGP
Qualifying Practice
Top Speed
26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team HONDA 330.2
27 Casey STONER AUS Honda LCR HONDA 329.6
6 Makoto TAMADA JPN Konica Minolta Honda HONDA 328.5
15 Sete GIBERNAU SPA Ducati Marlboro Team DUCATI 326.5
24 Toni ELIAS SPA Fortuna Honda HONDA 326.5
33 Marco MELANDRI ITA Fortuna Honda HONDA 325.1
10 Kenny ROBERTS JR USA Team Roberts KR211V 324.7
65 Loris CAPIROSSI ITA Ducati Marlboro Team DUCATI 324.6
21 John HOPKINS USA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP SUZUKI 323.9
46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Camel Yamaha Team YAMAHA 323.2
69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Repsol Honda Team HONDA 323.2
5 Colin EDWARDS USA Camel Yamaha Team YAMAHA 322.8
7 Carlos CHECA SPA Tech 3 Yamaha YAMAHA 321.7
66 Alex HOFMANN GER Pramac d'Ant�_n MotoGP DUCATI 321.2
77 James ELLISON GBR Tech 3 Yamaha YAMAHA 321.0
56 Shinya NAKANO JPN Kawasaki Racing Team KAWASAKI 319.2
17 Randy DE PUNIET FRA Kawasaki Racing Team KAWASAKI 319.0
71 Chris VERMEULEN AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP SUZUKI 317.4
30 Jose Luis CARDOSO SPA Pramac d'Ant�_n MotoGP DUCATI 317.1


2007 Losail Circuit
MotoGP
Qualifying Practice
Top Speed
27 Casey STONER AUS Ducati Marlboro Team DUCATI 324.7
65 Loris CAPIROSSI ITA Ducati Marlboro Team DUCATI 323.5
66 Alex HOFMANN GER Pramac d'Antin DUCATI 322.6
4 Alex BARROS BRA Pramac d'Antin DUCATI 319.5
26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team HONDA 317.0
21 John HOPKINS USA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP SUZUKI 313.1
99 Jeremy McWILLIAMS GBR Ilmor GP ILMOR GP 313.0
1 Nicky HAYDEN USA Repsol Honda Team HONDA 312.5
24 Toni ELIAS SPA Honda Gresini HONDA 312.2
56 Shinya NAKANO JPN Konica Minolta Honda HONDA 312.2
19 Olivier JACQUE FRA Kawasaki Racing Team KAWASAKI 311.3
7 Carlos CHECA SPA Honda LCR HONDA 310.3
6 Makoto TAMADA JPN Dunlop Yamaha Tech 3 YAMAHA 310.1
46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Fiat Yamaha Team YAMAHA 309.9
50 Sylvain GUINTOLI FRA Dunlop Yamaha Tech 3 YAMAHA 309.2
71 Chris VERMEULEN AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP SUZUKI 309.0
33 Marco MELANDRI ITA Honda Gresini HONDA 308.5
14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA Kawasaki Racing Team KAWASAKI 308.1
5 Colin EDWARDS USA Fiat Yamaha Team YAMAHA 307.9
88 Andrew PITT AUS Ilmor GP ILMOR GP 307.3
10 Kenny ROBERTS JR USA Team Roberts KR212V 306.2


That's 204.8mph in '06 to 201.8mph in '07 for Stoner. And 200.8mph in '06 to 192.6mph in '07 for Rossi. The corner speed these bikes must be carrying to slow down top speeds yet blast by lap records is insane. At the same time McWilliams is up at the top of the speed chart, but his lap times are ..... Shows that going fast in a straight line isn't the key to a winning setup.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R-46 @ Mar 9 2007, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>top speed is nothing. unless it's drag racing. but the yamahas can corner also.

top speed is something sometimes

yes but today its what took stoner to victory he was pulling away from rossi so quickly,a few more corners and it would of been rossi's victory
he caught up on every corner but was out powered by the ducati grunt
someone needs to tone them down a bit lol.

casey did race well today althouh i was supprised he stayed on his bike as he is king of falling off i wonder how much moneys worth of damage he caused to his bikes last year,hopefully this year he will learn to keep control on the corners and not fall off, althouh he does seem to ride well with the ducati.

According to Julian Ryder, Stoner had 12mph on Rossi by the speed trap.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Mar 10 2007, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>According to Julian Ryder, Stoner had 12mph on Rossi by the speed trap.
Yep, 20kmph

oatar?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Mar 10 2007, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>top speed is something sometimes

yes but today its what took stoner to victory he was pulling away from rossi so quickly,a few more corners and it would of been rossi's victory
he caught up on every corner but was out powered by the ducati grunt
someone needs to tone them down a bit lol.

casey did race well today althouh i was supprised he stayed on his bike as he is king of falling off i wonder how much moneys worth of damage he caused to his bikes last year,hopefully this year he will learn to keep control on the corners and not fall off, althouh he does seem to ride well with the ducati.

Yesterday surly showed that top speed is something. Tone them down?
Hell, I suspect they misunderstood the new rules and increased thoe volumeinstead and developed a 1098 desmosedichi instead of an 800

Why are everybody giving Casey such a gard time about last season. He did fairly well as a rookie and everyone should be given more than one season before we declare him the crash king. It might have been the Honda or the setup he was given at LCR and as a rookie it might be hard to find the right settings in a one rider team.

Most of the greats crashed a lot their first years.Thats where you learn, by crashing.Pushing the limit is finding the limit.Rossi had a few crashes himself his rookie year on the evil 500 but by his second year he learned how far he could go and has rarely fallen since.Stoner is going to be a good one,im guessin 4th in points this year and maybe challenging in 08.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Mar 10 2007, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>According to Julian Ryder, Stoner had 12mph on Rossi by the speed trap.
yup.hate to nit pik but he said 20kmh faster which is 12.4 mph.

Vote capirossi for Mugello, or is rossi actually unstopable

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Mar 12 2007, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well i'll tell ya stoner looked faster than rossi in the big sweepers also. just the tighter turns rossi had it in over stoner in spades. if the others don't catch up in the speed department, ducati are gonna run away at the big fast tracks! mugello, turkey, sepang jump to mind immediately!
i wouldnt mind betting yamaha can provide more top end for those tracks but will it handle and finish the race with only 21 liters of fuel,ducati seen to have it all at the moment.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Mar 12 2007, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well i'll tell ya stoner looked faster than rossi in the big sweepers also. just the tighter turns rossi had it in over stoner in spades. if the others don't catch up in the speed department, ducati are gonna run away at the big fast tracks! mugello, turkey, sepang jump to mind immediately!
Agree with all that! Plenty of corners, and a 1km straight, and in those last 2 laps Valentino didn't get within 6 bike lengths of Casey throughout the whole circuit. Valentino was also making up massive ground under braking, comparable and as significant as the speed advantage of the Ducati in a straight line.
Sure, Ducati have certainly got it right, and right from the off. But I still think Casey's performance on Saturday was above and beyond the expectations of Ducati. Valentino was also awesome, and is the obvious championship favourite, but the aura of invincibility and infallability has gone. Should be a good season.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Burky @ Mar 12 2007, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Valentino was also awesome, and is the obvious championship favourite, but the aura of invincibility and infallability has gone. Should be a good season.

I agree, i expect to see people beat rossi sometimes, but i don't expect any one rider to beat him on a regular enough basis to beat him to the title. But who knows whats gonna change, its still soearly on.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Mar 12 2007, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yup.hate to nit pik but he said 20kmh faster which is 12.4 mph.
I'm a writer not an engineer, what do you want from me?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Burky @ Mar 12 2007, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Agree with all that! Plenty of corners, and a 1km straight, and in those last 2 laps Valentino didn't get within 6 bike lengths of Casey throughout the whole circuit. Valentino was also making up massive ground under braking, comparable and as significant as the speed advantage of the Ducati in a straight line.
Sure, Ducati have certainly got it right, and right from the off. But I still think Casey's performance on Saturday was above and beyond the expectations of Ducati. Valentino was also awesome, and is the obvious championship favourite, but the aura of invincibility and infallability has gone. Should be a good season.
Nice post, sums up my thoughts on the race and the season pretty well.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Mar 12 2007, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>oh no doubt!!! i fgured him for a podium but honestly i thought it would be rossi, pedrosa, capirossi &......... edwards. good grief he does it every season! he's great in testing & it looks like he's gonna finaly do something & then the race starts..... then he ends up in his traditional 6th place.
He really does, I don't get it. Although this might be the year, the perceived advantage the Yams will have at tight an twisty tracks might be enough to give Colin enough for a win at Laguna. Maybe... Hopefully...