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Until last year Dovi has never had a teammate the caliber of Cal.
The statistics will never show the big picture. His record looks better than his teammates because he is a point collector while Cal and others are pushing to find the limits. Never crashing is not something to brag about unless your a school bus driver. That tells me he has no idea the capabilities of himself or his machinery.

Keep posting stuff like this and be prepared to be ridiculed. Not crashing isn’t important???


Never had teammates of Cal’s caliber??? WTF? Did you happen to notice who his teammates were at Honda?
 
So if I try your patience through healthy debate, you condone debasing the conversation to insults?
Is this place a MotoGp Forum or an anger management seminar

Don’t go all Henry Higgins on me squire. Polite bollocks is bollocks all the same.
 
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Keep posting stuff like this and be prepared to be ridiculed. Not crashing isn’t important???


Never had teammates of Cal’s caliber??? WTF? Did you happen to notice who his teammates were at Honda?


I meant post HRC where he probably holds the record for the shortest ever HRC tenure.
The first half of Rossi's rookie year on the 500 was spent in the gravel pit as he was seeking the limit. The second half he came back and almost won the title because his crashing helped him find the limit.

Stoner 2006 he was labeled as Crashy. How did the rest of his career go ?

How about Marquez. Do you think all that crashing didn't help him win 4 out of five?
 
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Did my post make you angry? Your reply is a quite abrasive for a conversation about rider ability.
If your unable to purport yourself like an adult, during a simple, friendly conversation, than don't bother engaging me.
As far as the Stoner statement, it was a joke, sort of along the lines of KR joking about how the TZ 750 was out to kill him.
It seems like taking things literally is the norm around here.

Don’t take it too hard.

He was planted in a .... unintentionally, pushed out of that .... too early and stayed a .... ever since.
 
The reason I think Dovi is amazing in the wet is Donington 2009 on a honda. If you haven't seen that race I suggest you watch it if possible. He also did great on the Yamaha in it. I feel like you are basing your entire opinion of Dovi based on his time at Ducati.

One off "find the limit" laps mean ..... Nothing. Race pace win championships. Dovi has found fast laps during races and poles a hell of a lot more than Cal can find the ability to maintain a pace that can manage a bike to the end. Thats pathetic. What you describe and like about Cal sounds more like a TT racer than an actual circuit racer.

He's got the experience to be one. He has spent way more time on a TT course than any rider on the planet
 
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I meant post HRC where he probably holds the record for the shortest ever HRC tenure.
The first half of Rossi's rookie year on the 500 was spent in the gravel pit as he was seeking the limit. The second half he came back and almost won the title because his crashing helped him find the limit.

Stoner 2006 he was labeled as Crashy. How did the rest of his career go ?

How about Marquez. Do you think all that crashing didn't help him win 4 out of five?

So... Dovi would measure up to your standards if after all his years racing - if he crashed as much now as Rossi and Stoner did in their Rookie year? False equivalency much? And BTW - Stoner in his rookie year was on garbage Michelin tires that were forced on him by Michelin. They refused to allow him to select which tire he wanted. He still did better than Cal.

Really - your posts are so poorly thought out that they’re not worth replying to.
 
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Unless I stated that Stoner worked in an asbestos factory, than there would be no person outside of an alien that just landed on earth,or a simpleton that could misconstrue the term, "took a decade off his life" as literal.

Again you are showing overly aggressive retorts during friendly dialogue.
My sentiments if you are having problems in your personal life and need to direct your anger somewhere but lashing out to make yourself feel better will only inevitably make yourself feel worse.

You really are one stupid ..... Here's your post again:

Up until 2017, sitting on a Ducati was a career ender.
I think Stoner ...... off early because riding that pile, took a decade off his life


You think Stoner quit because of riding the Ducati.

Literally nothing on this planet other than the imaginary fictional world in your brain supports Stoner stopping racing at 27 because of the Ducati stint.

You'll get friendly responses when you stop posting like a moron.
 
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So... Dovi would measure up to your standards if after all his years racing - if he crashed as much now as Rossi and Stoner did in their Rookie year? False equivalency much? And BTW - Stoner in his rookie year was on garbage Michelin tires that were forced on him by Michelin. They refused to allow him to select which tire he wanted. He still did better than Cal.

Really - your posts are so poorly thought out that they’re not worth replying to.

Albert doesn't seem to know Stoner was getting mismatched tires from Michelin.

Shocking.
 
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...and the point was not about the quality of what comes out of their mouth, but That they both have the capability of ruffling some feathers in a factory setting.

Take the two grey cells that you have, put them in a mutual fund with 10% return per annum and come back in about 65 years to continue this conversation.

The fact that both Bernie Sanders and Donald ..... ruffled feathers in an election setting does not make them analogous.

At least I have 2 functioning brain cells. You'll need a millennium to catch up.
 
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I meant post HRC where he probably holds the record for the shortest ever HRC tenure.
The first half of Rossi's rookie year on the 500 was spent in the gravel pit as he was seeking the limit. The second half he came back and almost won the title because his crashing helped him find the limit.

Stoner 2006 he was labeled as Crashy. How did the rest of his career go ?

How about Marquez. Do you think all that crashing didn't help him win 4 out of five?

Rossi crashed a lot because 500's were bloody hard to ride as they had vicious power delivery, weighed about 40kg less than a modern bike and no rider aids, not like these diesels they use today.

Stoner crashed a lot because Michelin used him as a test mule, he often didn't know what tyres he was using until 30 minutes before a race.
 
When Stoner crashes: "How dare they give him .... machinery"!

When Stoner wins: "He's the greatest, he can ride even .... machinery to a championship"!
 
When Stoner crashes: "How dare they give him .... machinery"!

When Stoner wins: "He's the greatest, he can ride even .... machinery to a championship"!


I wouldn't go that far but his 2006 season was blighted by crashes caused by constantly swapping tyres.
 
You really are one stupid ..... Here's your post again:




You think Stoner quit because of riding the Ducati.

Literally nothing on this planet other than the imaginary fictional world in your brain supports Stoner stopping racing at 27 because of the Ducati stint.

You'll get friendly responses when you stop posting like a moron.



Ive been reading some old threads. You have some massive anger issues. Your not capable of friendly responses. You should think about getting some professional help. I would hate live a life with so much little joy that the only thing that gives you satisfaction is tearing down others. It's obvious your reaction is not because of my supposed "crap opinion," because you have the same reaction to everything and everyone.
If this was a political or football forum I could almost understand the vitriol, but Moto GP is not a sport you should be so polarized about that you attack others, especially coming from someone that doesn't seem to have a liking to any rider. Your sole purpose in watching appears to be so you can exclaim how right you are and everyone else is below you.

I watch GP for many reasons. One of them being the camaraderie is fosters amongst fellow enthusiasts. None of which, I have ever met share your hooligan mentality.
Why don't you try attending a GP. Im guessing you never have. There's no fights, no cursing and name calling amongst fans. It's a circus full of enthusiasts, any of which you could approach, regardless of which jersey they are wearing, and have a great conversation and a laugh.
This pirate in a tea party demeanor you have, is nowhere to be found. Spare me the Rossi fan example, yes they can be boisterous and a tad tacky,but they are not hateful and cruel.

If this sport gives you so much angst than maybe you should back away. Take a hard look at your life and eliminate the negatives. That's a start toward some semblance of a happy life.
Spring is coming. Plant a butterfly garden. Watch the cycle of life all within 28 days. It puts the world in perspective.
Ask yourself, do you want to be beautiful and soar during your brief time on this rock or lurk in the shadows and continue to be ugly and loathsome.
 
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