Pedrosa's Last Chance To Be Champion?

I dont think its his last chance but it may be his last chance at hrc.

I think a lot more credence is being given to Marquez's ability than is fair. He's an extremely talented rider, of that there's no doubt, but Pedrosa was equally as talented in 125s and 250s but the level of competition in GP has ensured that the top step success has so far eluded him.


 


I will hold off on any comparisons with his team-mate till he has half-a-dozen races under his belt.


 


In Moto2 Marquez's team spent an estimated 4.5M euros in 2012. He won't have that sort of advantage in GP. He will be on one of the 'prime' rides and with an extremely competent team around him, but he still has to come to grips with the setup and dialling in of electronics, etc., something he has no experience of. 


 


Pedrosa, given another injury-free year, will be some stiff competition for a rookie. Factor in Lorenzo and Rossi and if Marquez gets on the podium it will be a remarkable feat.


 


I think Pedrosa has a 1:3 chance of winning the championship in 2013.

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I think a lot more credence is being given to Marquez's ability than is fair. He's an extremely talented rider, of that there's no doubt, but Pedrosa was equally as talented in 125s and 250s but the level of competition in GP has ensured that the top step success has so far eluded him.

 

I will hold off on any comparisons with his team-mate till he has half-a-dozen races under his belt.

 

In Moto2 Marquez's team spent an estimated 4.5M euros in 2012. He won't have that sort of advantage in GP. He will be on one of the 'prime' rides and with an extremely competent team around him, but he still has to come to grips with the setup and dialling in of electronics, etc., something he has no experience of. 

 

Pedrosa, given another injury-free year, will be some stiff competition for a rookie. Factor in Lorenzo and Rossi and if Marquez gets on the podium it will be a remarkable feat.

 

I think Pedrosa has a 1:3 chance of winning the championship in 2013.

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agree 100% mate

He will certainly have a chance but it will be tougher as he'll be competing against Lorenzo and Rossi, his best chance is to actually finish the races.

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He will certainly have a chance but it will be tougher as he'll be competing against Lorenzo and Rossi, his best chance is to actually finish the races.

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I agree but if he starts out as strong as he finished last season and stays fit he is my bet for the title.

What's already been said by the guy's above,


Nothing more to add, except.


I'm going to have a cheeky tenner on him this season.


The boy Jorge earned enough for that last season and the Tix for the Fantasy league

Not his last chance, but maybe his best chance. The cards are stacked, and unless Dorna ..... around with the regs again this year, the Honda is the bike to beat. It ended up being the best bike last year, and is only getting better. If they are smart, they will sand bag, ..... and moan about everything during testing. If they come out and show the same dominance they showed last year in testing< Uncle Ezzzy and cousin Capi, might just come to  rescue  the show.. If Nakamoto is telling the truth, and they have   improved the chassis to where even Dani feels comfy, look out. Yamaha seems incapable at this point in development to throw more HP at the M1, if the Honda is now close to equal in the chassis department, Yamaha is .......

Probability says he will win in 2013, intuition says he will come 2nd or 3rd. 


 


When you do the sums Honda has spent over 100 million on Pedro without a championship from him. 


 


Who knows what will happen, Pedro is a statistical blur, I'm betting against him. 

Pedrosa will be champ. The Honda's sorted, and he has his mojo. Lorenzo 2nd, Marquez 3rd. Marquez will win at least 2 races. He will also miss at least 1 race under the penalty points system. Do not underestimate Marquez, he is the best rider to come into the series since Rossi/Stoner.

I'd bet even money on the runt winning it all in 2013.


 


The return of the Yellow Clown will disrupt the entire Yamaha team.  Even someone as focused as Jorge can't help but be somewhat distracted by all the noise and ......... 


 


Marquie will be a random menace for much of the season.  If he doesn't put himself in the hospital, some his fellow riders may take it upon themselves to 'help.'  I predict at least one memorable Hillbilly-Rage-Monster 'incident.'

Kropotkin

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Pedrosa will be champ. The Honda's sorted, and he has his mojo. Lorenzo 2nd, Marquez 3rd. Marquez will win at least 2 races. He will also miss at least 1 race under the penalty points system. Do not underestimate Marquez, he is the best rider to come into the series since Rossi/Stoner.

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The two things i have been saying all winter,cant wait for it to start.

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I'd bet even money on the runt winning it all in 2013.


 


The return of the Yellow Clown will disrupt the entire Yamaha team.  Even someone as focused as Jorge can't help but be somewhat distracted by all the noise and ......... 


 


Marquie will be a random menace for much of the season.  If he doesn't put himself in the hospital, some his fellow riders may take it upon themselves to 'help.'  I predict at least one memorable Hillbilly Rage-Monster 'incident.

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100% agree,its the only way the clown can beat him in a straight fight.

BJ.C

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I think a lot more credence is being given to Marquez's ability than is fair. He's an extremely talented rider, of that there's no doubt, but Pedrosa was equally as talented in 125s and 250s but the level of competition in GP has ensured that the top step success has so far eluded him.


 


I will hold off on any comparisons with his team-mate till he has half-a-dozen races under his belt.


 


 

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Uhm, I think you just did genius.  You compared then say you will not compare them.  Breathtaking.


 

In Moto2 Marquez's team spent an estimated 4.5M euros in 2012. He won't have that sort of advantage in GP. He will be on one of the 'prime' rides and with an extremely competent team around him, but he still has to come to grips with the setup and dialling in of electronics, etc., something he has no experience of.   Pedrosa, given another injury-free year, will be some stiff competition for a rookie. Factor in Lorenzo and Rossi and if Marquez gets on the podium it will be a remarkable feat.


 


I think Pedrosa has a 1:3 chance of winning the championship in 2013.

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Wow, you must be a mathematician to come up with such insightful odds.  There are only 4 competitive bikes that are title worthy, one of them will be ridden by a rookie with limited experience in the class as you surmised yourself.  That leaves 3 bikes capable of wining the title, and you come up with a 1:3 chance?  Amazing, you must be a rocket scientist.

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Not his last chance, but maybe his best chance. The cards are stacked, and unless Dorna ..... around with the regs again this year, the Honda is the bike to beat. It ended up being the best bike last year, and is only getting better. If they are smart, they will sand bag, ..... and moan about everything during testing. If they come out and show the same dominance they showed last year in testing< Uncle Ezzzy and cousin Capi, might just come to  rescue  the show.. If Nakamoto is telling the truth, and they have   improved the chassis to where even Dani feels comfy, look out. Yamaha seems incapable at this point in development to throw more HP at the M1, if the Honda is now close to equal in the chassis department, Yamaha is .......

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This is the case.  No need to .... with the regs, Stoner is gone. :lol:  Bikes 5-21 could stay home and there would be no difference in the title contenders.  That is the ....... scandal.  "Stacked", that is an understatement.  Not to mention the dissonance to surely visit the Yamaha camp.  My only question is when will we get the second act of a fake interview to air out some .........  The scorpion can’t help himself and the frog will get .......  It’s a perfect .... storm for the little .....

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Bikes 5-21 could stay home and there would be no difference in the title contenders.  

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Could you point to any season when there was any point in bikes 5-21 turning up? I might be willing to give you 2006. Maybe. Just. But any other year?

Kropotkin

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Pedrosa will be champ. The Honda's sorted, and he has his mojo. Lorenzo 2nd, Marquez 3rd. Marquez will win at least 2 races. He will also miss at least 1 race under the penalty points system. Do not underestimate Marquez, he is the best rider to come into the series since Rossi/Stoner.

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and don't forget Pedrosa (and what about Lorenzo, which I would compare Marc to in the sense that I expect a few aerial acrobatics year one).


 


 


Speaking of which, I don't underestimate the power of the league to pave the way for their chosen darlings. Lets examine those supremely talented rider when they were promoted: Pedro to factory, Rossi to non-factory factory, Marquez to factory (after the timely elimination of a rule specifically prohibiting it) and of course Stone, oh wait, he went straight to a satellite, interesting.   Its never hurt that Albert and Carmelo are golf buddies.  But you don’t subscribe to such conspiracies.  Pedro has had every possible advantage since he was promoted to the première class and has done .... with it in terms of the ultimate prize.  He melted down at PI last year on his own and I will be hoping the same .... happens this year.  But I am under no illusion that the league will be “leveling” the playing field, as had been suggested in reverse direction starting last season.  The sudden elimination of the rookie rule (despite the ........ reasons given, and far worse...believed) are no coincidence as Pedro has not delivered.  HRC need a champ.  With the retirement of Stoner, perhaps its time to 'let' HRC have one, eh.  


 


 


 

Could you point to any season when there was any point in bikes 5-21 turning up? I might be willing to give you 2006. Maybe. Just. But any other year?

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Fair point. Edit to add, without looking beyond 06, would you accept 2007-2012?  In 07, even a Suzuki made the top 4 in classification, who knew Ducati would win the title, and from 08-2010, Stoner was considered a title contender.  The only thing that happened in 2011 was they replaced a title contender for another one (one that was supposedly even more talented and had the ultimate racecraft genius).  After all, Ducati was still considered a "factory" ridden by arguably the "goat".   Anyway, more to the current situation of which I was referring, when in the history of the sport have we had within the category an alternate podium position in par ferme? Need I go on?


 


Counterpoint....

Kropotkin

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Pedrosa will be champ. The Honda's sorted, and he has his mojo. Lorenzo 2nd, Marquez 3rd. Marquez will win at least 2 races. He will also miss at least 1 race under the penalty points system. Do not underestimate Marquez, he is the best rider to come into the series since Rossi/Stoner.

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Only one? 

Ive found that determining the chances of winning the championship can easily be equated using a simple mathematical equation.

Ive applied this formula to Pedrosa this year and this is what i have come up with

Billion dollars of development x. 130 mph catapult - Gravel pit. -

Terminal velocity impact. - Collar bone = SSDY ( same .... different yr)


This formula is tried and tested to be true. Take a look at the results when applied to Lorenzo and stoner last year.

Lorenzo

Lack of horsepower. x. Heart x 1 billion x work ethic x Focus x Arrogance squared - Nothing = Champion


Stoner

Best bike on the grid. x 10 million dollars. x. Negative heart - Negative intestinal fortitude - Negative mental strength. - Negative work ethic. - ...... attitude = 3rd place