Pedrosa to Yamaha

J4rn0 · May 5, 2016

JPSLotus said:
Kind of a dumb post since you know Pedrosa prefers a perfect setup for his bikes, and when he gets it, he tends to be untouchable come race day. I distinctly recall when everything clicked near the end of the season last year, Rossi couldn't even get close to Dani at a few of those races. The M1 is a far more stable platform than the RCV, and probably would be well suited for Pedrosa.

You're also making a tremendous assumption that with Rossi another year older, he will still be doing fine. What happens if his performance declines enough that he simply cannot fight for wins or podiums anymore? It happens to athletes where they fall of a cliff out of nowhere. Even though he is treated as a deity, Rossi is not immune to time.

While not as talented as Rossi, I'm pretty sure Loris Capirossi went into the 2007 with the working assumption that he would be able to repeat his 2006 performance, if not better...at least till the lights went out at Qatar and a distinct new reality took shape. Funny thing with athletes, no matter how good, the end sometimes comes unexpectedly, and quite swiftly.

Of course Rossi will stop being competitive at some point -- I also understand that many are waiting for that moment eager to say "See? he never was any good, I told you!". But that's not sporty...

What I was saying does not claim to predict the future. But here many are saying "Vinales will kick his ..., Pedrosa will whip him..." and honestly that makes me laugh. Such wishful thinking... Wait, be patient.

I am not predicting the future, but as things are, among the riders that could go to Yamaha (and here I rule Marquez out), I know that Rossi is not too worried about who is going to team with him.

He is used having Lorenzo on the same bike, he's not going to be rattled by Pedrosa, with all respect for Dani. Again, the blind spot for people of your bias is that you assume that Rossi is a mediocre rider. Wrong...

JPSLotus · May 5, 2016

J4rn0 said:
Of course Rossi will stop being competitive at some point -- I also understand that many are waiting for that moment eager to say "See? he never was any good, I told you!". But that's not sporty...

What I was saying does not claim to predict the future. But here many are saying "Vinales will kick his ..., Pedrosa will whip him..." and honestly that makes me laugh. Such wishful thinking... Wait, be patient.

I am not predicting the future, but as things are, among the riders that could go to Yamaha (and here I rule Marquez out), I know that Rossi is not too worried about who is going to team with him.

He is used having Lorenzo on the same bike, he's not going to be rattled by Pedrosa, with all respect for Dani. Again, the blind spot for people of your bias is that you assume that Rossi is a mediocre rider. Wrong...

Really, Rossi isn't too concerned about who is going to team with?

The guy who vetoed Casey Stoner in favor of Colin Edwards isn't worried about who is going to team with him?

He was concerned enough about Lorenzo that he ran to Ducati rather than accept #2 status 6 years ago.

The blind spot for people of your bias is that you assume Rossi is willing to take on all challengers in the same garage...at least if the option to punt them off their bike is there he is. Give me a ....... break already.

paparazzo · May 5, 2016

JPSLotus said:
Really, Rossi isn't too concerned about who is going to team with?

The guy who vetoed Casey Stoner in favor of Colin Edwards isn't worried about who is going to team with him?

He was concerned enough about Lorenzo that he ran to Ducati rather than accept #2 status 6 years ago.

The blind spot for people of your bias is that you assume Rossi is willing to take on all challengers in the same garage...at least if the option to punt them off their bike is there he is. Give me a ....... break already.

You're as vial as ever. He never vetoed Stoner or anyone else. Why would he when he's put him in his pocket on many occasion. This is nothing but another one of your invented fantasies. GTFO with your .... all the time.

J4rn0 · May 5, 2016

JPSLotus said:
Really, Rossi isn't too concerned about who is going to team with?

The guy who vetoed Casey Stoner in favor of Colin Edwards isn't worried about who is going to team with him?

He was concerned enough about Lorenzo that he ran to Ducati rather than accept #2 status 6 years ago.

The blind spot for people of your bias is that you assume Rossi is willing to take on all challengers in the same garage...at least if the option to punt them off their bike is there he is. Give me a ....... break already.

Be my guest man: take all the ....... break you need!
But when you hit reply, it would be nice if you reply to what I've written and not to your own mental monologue.

I never assumed that Rossi is "willing to take on all challenges in the same garage". I think no rider is really looking forward to that, btw (oh yes they all say they don't care, but they do). I said he's not too worried about "the riders who could go to Yamaha now", which rules out Marquez. It's different, isn't it. A little more sensible than what you make me say.

In particular, I said that the two candidates Pedrosa and Vinales surely worry him much less than his current teammate Jorge Lorenzo, the reigning world champion. And added that dismissing Rossi as a mediocre rider ready to be whipped by said potential teammates is an amusing assertion... can't help smiling when I read it. :happy:

JPSLotus · May 5, 2016

J4rn0 said:
Be my guest man: take all the ....... break you need!
But when you hit reply, it would be nice if you reply to what I've written and not to your own mental monologue.

I never assumed that Rossi is "willing to take on all challenges in the same garage". I think no rider is really looking forward to that, btw (oh yes they all say they don't care, but they do). I said he's not too worried about "the riders who could go to Yamaha now", which rules out Marquez. It's different, isn't it. A little more sensible than what you make me say.

In particular, I said that the two candidates Pedrosa and Vinales surely worry him much less than his current teammate Jorge Lorenzo, the reigning world champion. And added that dismissing Rossi as a mediocre rider ready to be whipped by said potential teammates is an amusing assertion... can't help smiling when I read it. :happy:

I know that Rossi is not too worried about who is going to team with him.

Your words.

Nothing even supports that assertion as he ALWAYS has been.

Stop hitting the yellow smoke bong.

michaelm · May 5, 2016

paparazzo said:
You're as vial as ever. He never vetoed Stoner or anyone else. Why would he when he's put him in his pocket on many occasion. This is nothing but another one of your invented fantasies. GTFO with your .... all the time.

I don't think he is scared of any other rider, then and perhaps even now.

However you haven't being following much if you think his desired situation is other than him being the clear number 1 rider with all efforts of the team focused on adding more wins and titles to further improve his obviously illustrious record, the whole reason for the Ducati move, grossly though they misjudged the competitiveness of Ducati's bike. He is on the record many times as saying the 1 rider non-factory factory team situation he had at Nastro Azzurro Honda is his ideal.

Although Rossi's career is obviously close to incomparable except in regard to Agostini, whom I rate as Rossi's inferior anyway, there are now several riders he has not exactly "put in his pocket", Stoner being one of them, Stoner having equaled Rossi for titles and easily beaten him for race wins in head to head competition. When Stoner was mooted for Yamaha by the likes of Burgess, contemporary reports of which can easily be found, it was very early on in Stoner's career, 2005 or 2006, and got nowhere near Stoner being about to sign and Rossi vetoing it as far as I am aware, so I agree with you to that extent.

Motokitty · May 5, 2016

I'm not following all the shuffle among teams and riders.
Jorge go to Ducati.
Dovi or Iannone has to leave Ducati.
Brad goes to KTM.
Folger goes to Tech 3.
Asparagus bros stay put.
Vinales may go to Yamaha.
Dani may go to yamaha.
Zarco is coming up to GP (he is riding suzuki in Suzuka 8).
What else is going on?

#22 · May 5, 2016

paparazzo said:
You're as vial as ever. He never vetoed Stoner or anyone else. Why would he when he's put him in his pocket on many occasion. This is nothing but another one of your invented fantasies. GTFO with your .... all the time.

Yes he did

Motokitty said:
I'm not following all the shuffle among teams and riders.
Jorge go to Ducati.
Dovi or Iannone has to leave Ducati.
Brad goes to KTM.
Folger goes to Tech 3.
Asparagus bros stay put.
Vinales may go to Yamaha.
Dani may go to yamaha.
Zarco is coming up to GP (he is riding suzuki in Suzuka 8).
What else is going on?

Pretty much right. However if Vinales stays at Suzuki, Alex Asparagus is out in place of Zarco.

MigsAngel · May 5, 2016

Motokitty said:
I'm not following all the shuffle among teams and riders.
Jorge go to Ducati.
Dovi or Iannone has to leave Ducati.
Brad goes to KTM.
Folger goes to Tech 3.
Asparagus bros stay put.
Vinales may go to Yamaha.
Dani may go to yamaha.
Zarco is coming up to GP (he is riding suzuki in Suzuka 8).
What else is going on?

Lowes is coming up to MotoGP Aprilia...

Gaz · May 6, 2016

JPSLotus said:
You know what bothers me more about this story, is the possibility that Cuntslow is going to find himself on another factory bike.

That this guy could even be in the running to be on a factory RCV is insane.

Talk is Cal to TechTrois

But that is based on a few tweets involving pictures and an interesting reflective comment about returning

#22 · May 6, 2016

I'd say that's a pipedream, considering Herve has already said he wants Pol and Jonas.

Tech 3 eyes Espargaro-Folger line-up for 2017

Gaz · May 6, 2016

He has also been extremely critical of Pol in the last week with regards to Pol's public comments regarding technical assistance from Yamaha ......... where he publically stated that what Pol asked for they already had etc

All may not be as it seems within the house .............. no genuine idea or knowledge as for mine, Cal left on none to pleasant terms and has shown nothing to get the spot back (all IMO)

Motokitty · May 6, 2016

Has KTM announced the other rider?

J4rn0 · May 7, 2016

JPSLotus said:
Your words.

Nothing even supports that assertion as he ALWAYS has been.

Stop hitting the yellow smoke bong.

Quoting a half line out of context, uh?

This is what I wrote: "I am not predicting the future, but as things are, among the riders that could go to Yamaha (and here I rule Marquez out), I know that Rossi is not too worried about who is going to team with him. "

This is what you quoted: "I know that Rossi is not too worried about who is going to team with him."

What a smartazz. Bravo!

J4rn0 · May 7, 2016

Thinking of it, it actually could make a lot of sense for Pedrosa to switch to Yamaha (if they are willing to take him).
He has no hopes of winning that elusive title if he remains with Honda, that is now fully focused on Marquez.
On the other hand at Yamaha he can have 2 years with an aging Rossi (who will retire earlier if he manages to win his 10th title) and then probably another 2 years with some young promise, and there could be more space for him. Moreover the M1 is certainly the most balanced bike of the lot, likely to remain competitive for the foreseeable future, quite capable to beat Honda.

And his old Telefonica/Movistar sponsor can be decisive in convincing Yamaha.

GpOne dug out an interesting pic:

BarryMachine · May 7, 2016

Motokitty said:
Has KTM announced the other rider?

No .... but i see Casey Stoner is riding round the farm on a nice new ktm enduro.

J4rn0 · May 7, 2016

BarryMachine said:
No .... but i see Casey Stoner is riding round the farm on a nice new ktm enduro.

Romantic idea, since the rider who won the very first GP for KTM in 125 was, for those who have good memory, Casey Stoner himself.

I think one of the reasons Honda first, and now Ducati, like to keep Stoner under contract one way or the other, may be to prevent him from going elsewhere.

JPSLotus · May 7, 2016

J4rn0 said:
Quoting a half line out of context, uh?

This is what I wrote: "I am not predicting the future, but as things are, among the riders that could go to Yamaha (and here I rule Marquez out), I know that Rossi is not too worried about who is going to team with him. "

This is what you quoted: "I know that Rossi is not too worried about who is going to team with him."

What a smartazz. Bravo!

Actually you "knowing" is being a smartass.

You just assume he isn't worried because no one is a threat at this given moment. History has proven you wrong on this several times. So why you insist on making moronic assertions always makes me laugh. I didn't take it out of context, you were the one who said it and that changed the entire meaning of that sentence.

Not my fault you're too slow up on the uptake.

J4rn0 · May 7, 2016

JPSLotus said:
Actually you "knowing" is being a smartass.

You just assume he isn't worried because no one is a threat at this given moment. History has proven you wrong on this several times. So why you insist on making moronic assertions always makes me laugh. I didn't take it out of context, you were the one who said it and that changed the entire meaning of that sentence.

Not my fault you're too slow up on the uptake.

Caught with the hands in the jam, and then thinking to get away with it by playing arrogant? You are priceless. :giggle:

Motokitty · May 7, 2016

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