Pedrosa not entirely happy with this years Honda

michaelm said:

You chose not to reply to my post on the matter however. Selective arguments as always, ignoring what doesn't suit you.

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Sorry I was generally replying to a few comments.
In reference to yours, Ben Spies imo not in the same ball park, not sure why you mentioned him as he would generally finish behind Dani anyway, Stoner yes and no as they were having quite an equal season up until Dani's winning streak.
Would Dani have pushed as hard in PI if the rotten luck of Misano hadn't struck? One of those things we'll never know. All I'm saying anyway is that 2012 was a really strong year for him, regardless of coming up just short.

Daniboy said:

Sorry I was generally replying to a few comments.
In reference to yours, Ben Spies imo not in the same ball park, not sure why you mentioned him as he would generally finish behind Dani anyway, Stoner yes and no as they were having quite an equal season up until Dani's winning streak.
Would Dani have pushed as hard in PI if the rotten luck of Misano hadn't struck? One of those things we'll never know. All I'm saying anyway is that 2012 was a really strong year for him, regardless of coming up just short.

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I have considered views on most of those things, one of which is that beating another rider in a championship is a binary thing, and if an opponent is injured it is his problem, but the margin is influenced by injury, and hence your argument for his record points tally as a second place getter is bunkum, given Stoner was out for several races then rode injured, Rossi was non-competitive on a Ducati, and Spies whom I would concede was likely never as good was bedevilled by similar ill luck to that which has plagued Dani. If he had bad luck at Misano he still couldn't seal the deal at PI, Jorge who has sealed the deal 3 times including in 2012 never relinquished the lead late season, and could obviously have ridden differently himself particularly at Valencia where he crashed out going off the dry line whilst leading the race to lap a back marker who was holding him up. I think it is rather less broad an assumption than those you have been making that he could have settled for second if his ambition was still to win the championship rather than the race if said championship was still in play, making your argument that the margin was only 18 points and down to Pedrosa's misfortune at Misano rather disingenuous.

In the course of 2015, I thought about it, no longer work with Honda because I had the impression that they do not use my data and my input of the tests. I know my value as a test driver, because I have a lot to offer to the development engineers. I can push for very fast times and have a better understanding of what the machine does.

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Full interview with Stoner here:
SPEEDWEEK MotoGP - Casey Stoner über Ducati, Fische und sein neues Leben


Honda ...... up their bike far before start of current season. it already happened in early 2014, Krops already wrote about it.
I believe they start to "just" listening to Marc not after they knew their bike was crap, but even before that happened. possibly it all started in early 2014, Stoner's interview above confirmed that.


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https://translate.google.com/transl...i-Fische-und-sein-neues-Leben.html&edit-text=

English?

Just for you mike and blue

Daniboy said:

Just for you mike and blue

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Nice couplet actually. Your a poet and you don't realise.

Meanwhile, regarding received wisdom from photo-shopped aphorisms uploaded onto the Internet by teenagers... meh... not so much [emoji5]


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Cool Blue said:

Nice couplet actually. Your a poet and you don't know it.

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Tada...fixed for ya matey :unsure: