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November Jerez testing thread

With this being a pivotal year for Dani at repsol HRC, I would not wear the Number 3.
The last Repsol Rider to wear the number 3 enjoyed one season on the Honda and was given the boot.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Nov 26 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>HOLY ....!

Trying to get some luck from that number, Dani?
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Courtesy of GPONE.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Nov 26 2008, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I would suggest this comment is a little un-founded since Dani is one of very few riders who shows little to no concern about his image, and rides with the number of his finishing postion rather than clinging on to some "lucky" number and wasting time sticking silly stickers all over his bike.
I would suggest your comment is the usual ......... How the hell do you know if this isn't exactly the image Dani wants to portray--an arrogant ungrateful ........ And as far as his number, he only changed it last year, and he said the reason he did so was to send a message that he would be one step away from the title--in other words, making an image! (An image is a statement with the use of visuals, ...., what do they teach you in school?). Do your ....... homework before you go on saying stupid ...., or you're gonna get called on it every time. And as far as "silly stickers" have you seen the one he put on his helmet? Geez, the very definition of "silly". Something like your post.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Nov 26 2008, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Is Nicky on the carbon fibre framed bike? I'm not sure if Ducati have switched to the GP9 yet.
This is from MotoGP.com

All Ducati riders had the chance to ride with a version of the Desmosedici GP9, Niccolo Canepa the fastest for the Italian factory in ninth. Factory rider Nicky Hayden was assisted by Casey Stoner in the garage as both looked to define the direction for the 2009 project.

In Short, Yes...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Nov 27 2008, 04:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I would suggest your comment is the usual ......... How the hell do you know if this isn't exactly the image Dani wants to portray--an arrogant ungrateful ........ And as far as his number, he only changed it last year, and he said the reason he did so was to send a message that he would be one step away from the title--in other words, making an image! (An image is a statement with the use of visuals, ...., what do they teach you in school?). Do your ....... homework before you go on saying stupid ...., or you're gonna get called on it every time. And as far as "silly stickers" have you seen the one he put on his helmet? Geez, the very definition of "silly". Something like your post.

Congratulations for being able to speculate that some of Dani's actions were image concious. It fits well with what i siad "he shows little to no concern for his image". I would have said none at all, except that i know in modern motogp all riders are trained to understand their place in the public's eye, and at very least they all wear some personalised equipment or have their own logo. Nevertheless Dani and (credit where it is due) Stoner are two riders who compared to their competitors spend less time dressing themselfes up or making public statements for the sake of entertainment and image. Those very qualities seem to be the source of most of these riders critisism around here, yet rockgod01 seems to think the opposite is true
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Nov 27 2008, 09:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Congratulations for being able to speculate that some of Dani's actions were image concious. It fits well with what i siad "he shows little to no concern for his image". I would have said none at all, except that i know in modern motogp all riders are trained to understand their place in the public's eye, and at very least they all wear some personalised equipment or have their own logo. Nevertheless Dani and (credit where it is due) Stoner are two riders who compared to their competitors spend less time dressing themselfes up or making public statements for the sake of entertainment and image. Those very qualities seem to be the source of most of these riders critisism around here, yet rockgod01 seems to think the opposite is true
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what will changing his number every year acheive? if he is not image concious, then why change at all? of all the riders in the "top tier" of moto gp, he is the one who needs an image boost the most, except for spanish territories maybe. and how do you know that "in modern motogp all riders are trained to understand their place in the public's eye"?
who trains them?
why did they do such a bad job with pedro?

and to carry on what jumkie said further, are you paying for your education? because if you are, you are being ripped off...

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Nov 27 2008, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>what will changing his number every year acheive? if he is not image concious, then why change at all? of all the riders in the "top tier" of moto gp, he is the one who needs an image boost the most, except for spanish territories maybe. and how do you know that "in modern motogp all riders are trained to understand their place in the public's eye"?
who trains them?
why did they do such a bad job with pedro?

and to carry on what jumkie said further, are you paying for your education? because if you are, you are being ripped off...

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You do realize that keeping the same number is still choosing? Riding without a number is obvioudly not realistic. As for the fact that all racers understand their place in the public eye, it would be naive to think that the riders don't realize that sponsors pay their bills or that millions of people watch what they do. In a world of PR appearances and personal websites it's fairly obvious that the riders don't manage everything on their own, in fact we know or could find out who most of their managers are.

As for my education, you probably wont be surprised to hear that i haven't paid a penny for education in sports psychology, like the vast majority on here i'm just a enthusiastic sports fan discussing the information that is readily available.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Nov 27 2008, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As for the fact that all racers understand their place in the public eye, it would be naive to think that the riders don't realize that sponsors pay their bills or that millions of people watch what they do. In a world of PR appearances and personal websites it's fairly obvious that the riders don't manage everything on their own, in fact we know or could find out who most of their managers are.

this is why you get so much flak from so many people here tom.
 
Who gives a flying .... about race numbers?

Back to the topic...

1. Valentino Rossi (Yamaha) – 1’39”803 (13 giri)
2. Dani Pedrosa (Honda) – 1’40”642 (17)
3. Colin Edwards (Yamaha) – 1’40”952 (19)
4. Alex De Angelis (Honda) – 1’41”219 (20)
5. Jorge Lorenzo (Yamaha) – 1’41”343 (25)
6. Andrea Dovizioso (Honda) – 1’41”831 (11)
7. Sete Gibernau (Ducati) – 1’41”866 (17)
8. James Toseland (Yamaha) – 1’41”922 (21)
9. Nicky Hayden (Ducati) – 1’42”013 (21)
10. Toni Elias (Honda) – 1’42”035 (22)
11. Niccolò Canepa (Ducati) – 1’42”547 (14)
12. Yuki Takahashi (Honda) – 1’43”263 (22)
13. Mika Kallio (Ducati) – 1’43”351 (16)
14. Vittoriano Guareschi (Ducati) – 1’45”025 (17)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spooky @ Nov 27 2008, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>1. Valentino Rossi (Yamaha) – 1’39”803 (13 giri)
2. Dani Pedrosa (Honda) – 1’40”642 (17)
3. Colin Edwards (Yamaha) – 1’40”952 (19)
4. Alex De Angelis (Honda) – 1’41”219 (20)
5. Jorge Lorenzo (Yamaha) – 1’41”343 (25)
6. Andrea Dovizioso (Honda) – 1’41”831 (11)
7. Sete Gibernau (Ducati) – 1’41”866 (17)
8. James Toseland (Yamaha) – 1’41”922 (21)
9. Nicky Hayden (Ducati) – 1’42”013 (21)
10. Toni Elias (Honda) – 1’42”035 (22)
11. Niccolò Canepa (Ducati) – 1’42”547 (14)
12. Yuki Takahashi (Honda) – 1’43”263 (22)
13. Mika Kallio (Ducati) – 1’43”351 (16)
14. Vittoriano Guareschi (Ducati) – 1’45”025 (17)

Some decent improvers and some stayed the same...and other should be worried....
 
Wow, I can't wait for 2010.
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Nicky looks awful. In many way his body positioning is similar to Marco's---both of them hump the tank b/c Honda riders have to sit on top of center of mass.

As far as I can tell, the GP8 makes almost all of it's grip at the rear. Nicky needs to go home and spend the next 2 months riding supermoto until he remembers how to ride with the back.

Who'd have thought Nicky would need to learn how to ride with the rear wheel?!
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It's the only wheel he's ridden with since he was about 4.
 
Alex De A is impressing me more and more, great end to the season and some impressive testing.

That on topic comment allows me segue into... Tom, why do you always seem to choose to defend undefendable positions? Regardless of the Dani hating opinions of some of our anglophone forum mates it is obvious that Dani doesn't play well to the english speaking media and this could be mistaken by the not so observant as: "show[ing] little or no concern for his image". He is however a spanish sports media star and is constantly interviewed, making appearances there, and his media conscienceness is plain to see - as our spanish forum mates have pointed out a number of times. Just 'cause you don't understand the language doesn't mean its not happening.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Nov 27 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Wow, I can't wait for 2010.
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Nicky looks awful. In many way his body positioning is similar to Marco's---both of them hump the tank b/c Honda riders have to sit on top of center of mass.


Hmmmm

1. Dani Pedrosa (Honda) – 1’39”507 (42 giri)
2. Valentino Rossi (Yamaha) – 1’39”803 (48)
3. Jorge Lorenzo (Yamaha) – 1’40”426 (57)
4. Nicky Hayden (Ducati) – 1’40”486 (58)
5. Mika Kallio (Ducati) – 1’40”564 (47)
6. Colin Edwards (Yamaha) – 1’40”604 (39)
7. Toni Elias (Honda) – 1’40”641 (48)
8. Andrea Dovizioso (Honda) – 1’40”966 (38)
9. Sete Gibernau (Ducati) – 1’41”075 (42)
10. Niccolò Canepa (Ducati) – 1’41”077 (44)
11. Alex De Angelis (Honda) – 1’41”219 (45)
12. James Toseland (Yamaha) – 1’41”740 (45)
13. Vittoriano Guareschi (Ducati) – 1’42”906 (37)
14. Yuki Takahashi (Honda) – 1’42”918 (54)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Nov 27 2008, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As far as I can tell, the GP8 makes almost all of it's grip at the rear. Nicky needs to go home and spend the next 2 months riding supermoto until he remembers how to ride with the back.

Looks like he needed an dry afternoon in Jerez
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>1. Dani Pedrosa (Honda) – 1’39”507 (42 giri)
2. Valentino Rossi (Yamaha) – 1’39”803 (48)
3. Jorge Lorenzo (Yamaha) – 1’40”426 (57)
4. Nicky Hayden (Ducati) – 1’40”486 (58)
5. Mika Kallio (Ducati) – 1’40”564 (47)
6. Colin Edwards (Yamaha) – 1’40”604 (39)
7. Toni Elias (Honda) – 1’40”641 (48)
8. Andrea Dovizioso (Honda) – 1’40”966 (38)
9. Sete Gibernau (Ducati) – 1’41”075 (42)
10. Niccolò Canepa (Ducati) – 1’41”077 (44)
11. Alex De Angelis (Honda) – 1’41”219 (45)
12. James Toseland (Yamaha) – 1’41”740 (45)
13. Vittoriano Guareschi (Ducati) – 1’42”906 (37)
14. Yuki Takahashi (Honda) – 1’42”918 (54)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spooky @ Nov 27 2008, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hmmmm

1. Dani Pedrosa (Honda) – 1’39”507 (42 giri)
2. Valentino Rossi (Yamaha) – 1’39”803 (48)
3. Jorge Lorenzo (Yamaha) – 1’40”426 (57)
4. Nicky Hayden (Ducati) – 1’40”486 (58)
5. Mika Kallio (Ducati) – 1’40”564 (47)
6. Colin Edwards (Yamaha) – 1’40”604 (39)
7. Toni Elias (Honda) – 1’40”641 (48)
8. Andrea Dovizioso (Honda) – 1’40”966 (38)
9. Sete Gibernau (Ducati) – 1’41”075 (42)
10. Niccolò Canepa (Ducati) – 1’41”077 (44)
11. Alex De Angelis (Honda) – 1’41”219 (45)
12. James Toseland (Yamaha) – 1’41”740 (45)
13. Vittoriano Guareschi (Ducati) – 1’42”906 (37)
14. Yuki Takahashi (Honda) – 1’42”918 (54)


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon)<div class='quotemain'>Optimism hasn't worked since 2006, I'm going to try pessimism and see what results in generates.

In theory, I should never be disappointed so that's a good start.
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PESSIMISM WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






BUT I KNOW IT WON'T LAST LONG.
 
Rossi & Pedrocock are flying! Glad Nickys up there too...

1. Valentino Rossi (Yamaha) – 1’39”429 (54 giri)
2. Dani Pedrosa (Honda) – 1’39”447 (47)
3. Jorge Lorenzo (Yamaha) – 1’40”426 (58)
4. Nicky Hayden (Ducati) – 1’40”486 (68)
5. Alex De Angelis (Honda) – 1’40”486 (49)
7. Mika Kallio (Ducati) – 1’40”564 (48)
7. Colin Edwards (Yamaha) – 1’40”604 (39)
8. Toni Elias (Honda) – 1’40”641 (50)
9. James Toseland (Yamaha) – 1’40”752 (51)
10. Sete Gibernau (Ducati) – 1’40”856 (48)
11. Andrea Dovizioso (Honda) – 1’40”966 (41)
12. Niccolò Canepa (Ducati) – 1’41”077 (48)
13. Vittoriano Guareschi (Ducati) – 1’42”906 (46)
14. Yuki Takahashi (Honda) – 1’42”918 (60)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spooky @ Nov 27 2008, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hmmmm

1. Dani Pedrosa (Honda) – 1’39”507 (42 giri)
2. Valentino Rossi (Yamaha) – 1’39”803 (48)
3. Jorge Lorenzo (Yamaha) – 1’40”426 (57)
4. Nicky Hayden (Ducati) – 1’40”486 (58)
5. Mika Kallio (Ducati) – 1’40”564 (47)
6. Colin Edwards (Yamaha) – 1’40”604 (39)
7. Toni Elias (Honda) – 1’40”641 (48)
8. Andrea Dovizioso (Honda) – 1’40”966 (38)
9. Sete Gibernau (Ducati) – 1’41”075 (42)
10. Niccolò Canepa (Ducati) – 1’41”077 (44)
11. Alex De Angelis (Honda) – 1’41”219 (45)
12. James Toseland (Yamaha) – 1’41”740 (45)
13. Vittoriano Guareschi (Ducati) – 1’42”906 (37)
14. Yuki Takahashi (Honda) – 1’42”918 (54)
That looks just great!!
Hayden and Kallio 1 sec. off on Ducati's worst track.On their 3rd dry day on Bridgestones and new bike.
Brilliant!
I'm sure Canepa will do better eventually too.I read on motogp.com he's trying out a thumb brake for the rearwheel.
I'm really impressed by Kallio's best time.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Anders GUZZI @ Nov 27 2008, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That looks just great!!
Hayden and Kallio 1 sec. off on Ducati's worst track.On their 3rd dry day on Bridgestones and new bike.
Brilliant!
I'm sure Canepa will do better eventually too.I read on motogp.com he's trying out a thumb brake for the rearwheel.
I'm really impressed by Kallio's best time.

well done nicky, i am impressed by kallio too! maybe the gp9 is more user friendly. remainds to be seen if the duc riders can get closer to the front runners but things looking better for the red team....
 

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