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If Colin thinks they are equal then I wouldn't want him balancing my cheque book. He was riding too crazy to win that race since he ran off the track. To his great luck he had a paved path back to the track or he would have been done at that point. Nicky got and deserved the win. He didn't deserve 4th this year but what difference does it really make? If Rossi had've stayed on they would be fighting for 4th and there wouldn't have even been a headline.
 
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am an edwards fan...but he screwed up his best chance at victory. hayden had nothing to do with edwards crashing other than being all over his ..., they had a great battle. they both wanted that win so bad and both rode a bit out of their heads at the very end. it was intense for both of em and frankly, they both kinda choked...

as for the last assen race.. well....i dont think CE really thinks he got payback or that he even deserved it, he knew he choked at assen back in 06. hes just using the moment to whip up the media... he rode one of his best races last weekend from last place in lap 1.

dont know if edwards will ever get a gp win, but this is about as good as hes ever looked in gp. not bad for his age, in that paddock.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PAsystm @ Jul 1 2008, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>new on the site...

am an edwards fan...but he screwed up his best chance at victory. hayden had nothing to do with edwards crashing other than being all over his ..., they had a great battle. they both wanted that win so bad and both rode a bit out of their heads at the very end. it was intense for both of em and frankly, they both kinda choked...

as for the last assen race.. well....i dont think CE really thinks he got payback or that he even deserved it, he knew he choked at assen back in 06. hes just using the moment to whip up the media... he rode one of his best races last weekend from last place in lap 1.

dont know if edwards will ever get a gp win, but this is about as good as hes ever looked in gp. not bad for his age, in that paddock.

right on. I think Colin meant it from more of a "his turn/my turn" deal, not sayin either was responsible....just that he made a mistake in 06 that cost him the race....and Nicky (really the bike) made a mistake so to speak in 08 costing him the race.........no more hidden meaning
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jun 30 2008, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No, real as in normal sized machines that USE to be piloted by MEN, not underpowered pocket bikes mounted by midgets, and "fan" bandwagon jumpers such as yourself ....
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Hahaha, sit down.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jul 1 2008, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I did watch the replay smart guy.........many times.....and for the last time, Nicky had nothing to do with Edwards crash........ASK EDWARDS.........he said it in his interview..........he said he got on the throttle too hard and it bit him........Nicky did what he should have...he drove through the open line that Colin created after he spun up and rode to victory.....when I used to race, I'd always run a wide defensive line on a final corner, and Colin would have done the same thing cutting Nicky off if he hadn't overworked the rear wheel....bad luck is all........

Now you prove you neither can watch a viedo OR read.
1. I said NOTHING about Nicky pressuring Edwards. I said it was nothing like your claimed .25 sec, as ANYONE with their eyes open it was far less than .1 -> also called nothing in my post. That was my major point.
2. As anyone else can see Nicky had given up getting through the chicane looong before collin crashed. He was way to hot in and took the only line he himself created - the gravel.
3. YOU racing! before you got blind i supose?
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4. Wide defencive line... hummm You said you were racing?
 
I question how big Nickys brain is because he knew the bike had a problem but he commented after the race he was trying to chase down Pedrosa.

He had third place easily.
 
and pdero was just clearly coasting as he was already 10sec behind casey and 3 seconds ahead of hayden with few laps to go.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jul 1 2008, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Now you prove you neither can watch a viedo OR read.
1. I said NOTHING about Nicky pressuring Edwards. I said it was nothing like your claimed .25 sec, as ANYONE with their eyes open it was far less than .1 -> also called nothing in my post. That was my major point.
2. As anyone else can see Nicky had given up getting through the chicane looong before collin crashed. He was way to hot in and took the only line he himself created - the gravel.
3. YOU racing! before you got blind i supose?
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4. Wide defencive line... hummm You said you were racing?

try a spell check cool guy.........
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jul 2 2008, 04:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>try a spell check cool guy.........

I'm here to express opinions, not spell checking. Why are you here? I understand that it is hard to argue against facts, or admitting you were wrong so I guess the best defence is " Spell Check ".
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jul 1 2008, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Now you prove you neither can watch a viedo OR read.
1. I said NOTHING about Nicky pressuring Edwards. I said it was nothing like your claimed .25 sec, as ANYONE with their eyes open it was far less than .1 -> also called nothing in my post. That was my major point.
2. As anyone else can see Nicky had given up getting through the chicane looong before collin crashed. He was way to hot in and took the only line he himself created - the gravel.
3. YOU racing! before you got blind i supose?
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4. Wide defencive line... hummm You said you were racing?

Colin went wide trying too hard to keep Nicky behind him. Thats pressure.

Nicky went wide because he got a false neutral in the box. Nicky had it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jul 2 2008, 02:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm here to express opinions, not spell checking. Why are you here? I understand that it is hard to argue against facts, or admitting you were wrong so I guess the best defence is " Spell Check ".

....and your facts involve polluting the forum with your opinion of MY racing ability........go jam a golf club up your ... fagstain and mind your own business. If you want me to discuss something with you don't substitute your own opinions for facts...........
For your information, a wide defensive line......(notice I spelled "defensive" correctly here) is a term used a lot in amatuer WERA racing to help defend your position by letting the bike drift off line coming out of an apex to prevent the opposing rider from coming up on an inside left/right in the next bend....it might not have worked perfect for Colin here since Nicky was already cutting the grass on the infield, but I was trying to explain a scenario if neither had run wide......
 
That's good racing folks!

Doesn't anyone remember 2006 when Edwards and Hayden were battling out on that last corner and Edwards crashed out and Hayden sailed accross the line to a podium finish?

That was just evening the balance of fate.


Although I was so gutted for poor Nicky, It would have been great for him to be on the podium, but then I felt the same about Colin in '06. That's what makes racing so damn great to watch!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bonnielass @ Jul 2 2008, 07:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That's good racing folks!
Although I was so gutted for poor Nicky, It would have been great for him to be on the podium, but then I felt the same about Colin in '06. That's what makes racing so damn great to watch!
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well said.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PAsystm @ Jul 1 2008, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>new on the site...

am an edwards fan...but he screwed up his best chance at victory. hayden had nothing to do with edwards crashing other than being all over his ..., they had a great battle. they both wanted that win so bad and both rode a bit out of their heads at the very end. it was intense for both of em and frankly, they both kinda choked...

as for the last assen race.. well....i dont think CE really thinks he got payback or that he even deserved it, he knew he choked at assen back in 06. hes just using the moment to whip up the media... he rode one of his best races last weekend from last place in lap 1.

dont know if edwards will ever get a gp win, but this is about as good as hes ever looked in gp. not bad for his age, in that paddock.

Welcome on board, nice to have reinforcements.

Where are all these Texas people coming from suddenly?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jul 2 2008, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Where are all these Texas people coming from suddenly?
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I'd say from Texas
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jul 2 2008, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>....and your facts involve polluting the forum with your opinion of MY racing ability........go jam a golf club up your ... fagstain and mind your own business. If you want me to discuss something with you don't substitute your own opinions for facts...........
For your information, a wide defensive line......(notice I spelled "defensive" correctly here) is a term used a lot in amatuer WERA racing to help defend your position by letting the bike drift off line coming out of an apex to prevent the opposing rider from coming up on an inside left/right in the next bend....it might not have worked perfect for Colin here since Nicky was already cutting the grass on the infield, but I was trying to explain a scenario if neither had run wide......

Oh, I'm so sorry to have hurt your feelings, not. Especially as I added a tounge just to make sure none could possibly take offence just because I had some fun, but I guess I should have known better when I'm up against someone who continously evade the facts.

Fact 1: The gap was NOT .25 as you so strongly argued in you first post on the subject, but virtually zero.
Fact 2: Hayden never made any choise about his line into the second part of the chicane, he was way to hot in and had no coise but the gravel. Clearly a contradiction to your first reply to me where you say: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Nicky did what he should have...he drove through the open line that Colin created after he spun up

You are obviously wrong, but even so you start off with:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>I did watch the replay smart guy.........many times.....
and STILL you are able to offended by some inocent fun
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Finally your "wide defencive line" (notice I spelled "defensive" wrong here) is nothing but a figure of speach as this is nothing else than the usual defensive tight line into the next turn. I find it strange to define the line as wide out of a trun when the object is the usual: to defend the apex in the next turn by going tight into it. Anyway, I do undertand what you mean but how you can be offended by that or my other racing comment is beyond me. Get a life, mine is to short for grumpy guys like you.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jul 2 2008, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Get a life, mine is to short for grumpy guys like you.

.....i hear the sound of a dead horse being beaten by a kid with a small stick.....get over yourself.....
 

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