Nicky Hayden running out of fuel

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jun 30 2008, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well that'd be boring as all getout!! ...... Pedrosa is proving that tiny guys are way faster! than your ideal ! ..... whom I shall hereby refer to as "Normy" Hayden


Maybe you need to find a series of something with a lot of "normal sized guys" in it racing around ..... it seems a very important criteria for you ..... indeed you are constantly going of about a "normacy" of physical size ....... to the point that I now have visions of you as like that woman in that "gilbert Grape" movie

When you say "normal sized" do you mean like hammerthrow normal? .... or lawn bowls normal?

Well Pedrosa is a lot smaller than average guys even outside of the racing world.....but HRC really designed the RCV around Pedrosa, so it makes the fairly average sized Hayden look very large on it.....its not a crime to be short....I met Pedrosa in person and I'm 5'11'' and he was only up to my chest......

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jun 30 2008, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well that'd be boring as all getout!! ...... Pedrosa is proving that tiny guys are way faster! than your ideal ! ..... whom I shall hereby refer to as "Normy" Hayden


Maybe you need to find a series of something with a lot of "normal sized guys" in it racing around ..... it seems a very important criteria for you ..... indeed you are constantly going of about a "normacy" of physical size ....... to the point that I now have visions of you as like that woman in that "gilbert Grape" movie

When you say "normal sized" do you mean like hammerthrow normal? .... or lawn bowls normal?

well you see...before you and and your sisters starting following moto gp 2 years ago..they've been racing since 1949....they had bikes that were of normal size..not pockets...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jun 30 2008, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well you see...before you and and your sisters starting following moto gp 2 years ago..they've been racing since 1949....they had bikes that were of normal size..not pockets...
hahahaha

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jun 30 2008, 08:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>

In the end its killing the sport WE love...turning it into a horse jockey pocket bike race series is only good for munchkin land....

The next crop of motogp champs:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jun 30 2008, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No Curve ...... you have to think like a Japanese Honda designer ......

ie.

"We are Japanese we are tiny"

" We have great skills ...... and yet we are tiny "

along comes Pedrosa and he is even tinier!

I'm sure you get the rest of the reasoning



They see Hayden as Sumo sized .... which they used to great advantage to knock Rossi out of the ring in 06 ....... thus unsettling him ..... then they expected things to become easier ....... its Stoner who seems to have not followed the plot! indeed he even defected from a LCR Honda to carry out his own coup.
funny, you have always come across as a bloke with little man syndrome to me. if you think nicky is big you must be a right little wimp ! or maybe you just had a lot of girls laugh at your tiny <strike>....</strike> nub.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 30 2008, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>funny, you have always come across as a bloke with little man syndrome to me. if you think nicky is big you must be a right little wimp ! or maybe you just had a lot of girls laugh at your tiny <strike>....</strike> nub.
FUNNY!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jul 1 2008, 06:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>funny, you have always come across as a bloke with little man syndrome to me. if you think nicky is big you must be a right little wimp ! or maybe you just had a lot of girls laugh at your tiny <strike>....</strike> nub.


I'm not the one complaining about size ........ I don't give a toss what size they are ...... especially if they are winning. Hence why I find whinges about Pedrosa'a size a bit ....... "special".


And compared to you Rog. I guess I might look about Pedrosa's size ..... well widthwise

Hayden's fortune was bad luck. Edwards in 06 was rider error.

even haydne agreed they were now even. so no it wasnt rider error. hayden made a ...... desperate move, which made colin stand up his bike, clipping the grass

Not really even, Colin lost out on a win, Nicky only lost a third.
I'm sure if you asked Colin which place he'd rather have he'd pick the win every time.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Noodlerizer @ Jul 1 2008, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hayden's fortune was bad luck. Edwards in 06 was rider error.


Not sure I'd call it bad luck .... Honda had been warning him it was not ready yet ...

We see Hayden in desperation mode now .... thats why he took the risk.

I'd call it slack work by Honda ...... it really should have been ready last year when Yamaha had already got something going.

Not that I think Pneumo as they are using it is the way to go.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Jun 30 2008, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>even haydne agreed they were now even. so no it wasnt rider error. hayden made a ...... desperate move, which made colin stand up his bike, clipping the grass
Did you watch that race? Hayden was on the outside and ran wide through the gravel, how would that make Edwards stand it up? You're ....... delusional, mate.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Jul 1 2008, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>even haydne agreed they were now even. so no it wasnt rider error. hayden made a ...... desperate move, which made colin stand up his bike, clipping the grass

Guy you really are in a world all your own........Nicky was a quarter second behind Colin when he slipped the bike on the candy cane and lost it.......now unless Hayden farted and it blew Colin offline....you should really watch the race before you draw conclusions man...damn....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jul 1 2008, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Guy you really are in a world all your own........Nicky was a quarter second behind Colin when he slipped the bike on the candy cane and lost it.......now unless Hayden farted and it blew Colin offline....you should really watch the race before you draw conclusions man...damn....

You better check that replay again. It was almost .25 before the high speed lefthander but hayden had a fantastic drive through that one and a far too hot entry to the chicane, and by that narrowed the gap to nothing, and he would actually have crossed the line before Edwards even without Edwards crash, however that would have given him an advantage by crossing the gravel and even though edwards were on the astro turf it's more than likely that he would have been given the victory if he had stayed on.
But who's to blame edwards crashng, if it was karma what happend on saturday.... I'll leave to those who care.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jul 1 2008, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You better check that replay again. It was almost .25 before the high speed lefthander but hayden had a fantastic drive through that one and a far too hot entry to the chicane, and by that narrowed the gap to nothing, and he would actually have crossed the line before Edwards even without Edwards crash, however that would have given him an advantage by crossing the gravel and even though edwards were on the astro turf it's more than likely that he would have been given the victory if he had stayed on.
But who's to blame edwards crashng, if it was karma what happend on saturday.... I'll leave to those who care.

I did watch the replay smart guy.........many times.....and for the last time, Nicky had nothing to do with Edwards crash........ASK EDWARDS.........he said it in his interview..........he said he got on the throttle too hard and it bit him........Nicky did what he should have...he drove through the open line that Colin created after he spun up and rode to victory.....when I used to race, I'd always run a wide defensive line on a final corner, and Colin would have done the same thing cutting Nicky off if he hadn't overworked the rear wheel....bad luck is all........

two good angles of that crash

Not a problem for Colin to lift the bike up
but he did use that dreaded "riders aid"
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (odessa @ Jul 1 2008, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>two good angles of that crash

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Cool thanks! The first clip shows pretty clearly that each rider has his own issues...Nicky was way too hot and even if Colin had been ahead or behind and he ran the same speed and line he would never have pulled through that apex....Colin was too hot too and had too much forward movement to bend the bike back left without running over the strips.....watching Colin run that hot, Nicky just needed to fold in behind him......but in the end Nicky did not cause Colin to crash.....

Edwards "On the last lap, it was a case of what comes around, goes around, two years later"

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2008/Edwards...ate+Dutch+drama

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Jun 30 2008, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>even haydne agreed they were now even. so no it wasnt rider error. hayden made a ...... desperate move, which made colin stand up his bike, clipping the grass
Are you an .....? In 06 edwards was on the inside going into the chicane. Hayden was not in his way.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (odessa @ Jul 1 2008, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>two good angles of that crash

Not a problem for Colin to lift the bike up
but he did use that dreaded "riders aid"
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either way it was still the best race of the season imo.