MOTOGP IS A FUKING JOKE!!!! NOT EVEN WORTH WATCHING

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Apr 21 2008, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The software and slipper clutches on the bikes are not in place to eliminate engine breaking, they are there to maximize it without losing control of the bikes. How much engine breaking the riders are comfortable with depends on the man, but with the software in place to make all the bikes so smooth into the turns, passing becomes much harder. For the sake of close racing it is more of a factor than "traction control".

well, I agree they don't try to remove it completly, that would be very easy these days but they are not exactly maximizing it. They are trying to make it smooth, that's true, but it's little more than what they used to have with the old 500s. The main issue were originally to avoid plain lock up of the rear.
With todays position connected TC I assume they have the electronic part of the "engine braking system" connected and so it's really a part of the TC package.

Is it me or have I read the same thread topic THREE times?

Noodle=Curve=Mekizo

Who's next: "I hate MotoGP, its ....... boring, look at me, I'm not gonna watch it anymore--comments..."

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 21 2008, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Is it me or have I read the same thread topic THREE times?

Noodle=Curve=Mekizo

Who's next: "I hate MotoGP, its ....... boring, look at me, I'm not gonna watch it anymore--comments..."
come on jumkie, the boys are just playing and curve send me ya motogp stuff.

Gotta agree.

Anyone who thinks that the racing we have seen over the 07/08 seasons have been exciting or interesting needs to go back and watch a race fromt he 990 era. It used to be that most races were exciting fights to the very last lap, now it is the opposite.

Who would complain if they went back to 990s and limited the electronics some how?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 21 2008, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Is it me or have I read the same thread topic THREE times?

Noodle=Curve=Mekizo

Who's next: "I hate MotoGP, its ....... boring, look at me, I'm not gonna watch it anymore--comments..."


I'd critique your posts, but they're SO ....... long and boring

if you find the moto gp a ...... joke and not even worth watching then i suggest YOU DONT its that simple there are another million .... t v channels to watch

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 21 2008, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Is it me or have I read the same thread topic THREE times?

Noodle=Curve=Mekizo

Who's next: "I hate MotoGP, its ....... boring, look at me, I'm not gonna watch it anymore--comments..."

I almost posted this same thing yesterday.

I was livid because Dorna took $130 and then changed the services on the website. Nothing I paid for is available anymore. Worst of all, the main service, HD, is complete garbage now. I've seen more chivalrous internet scams than this one.

I can laugh about it now because if I stay pissed any longer I'll probably start binge drinking, but I'll probably be walking away at the end of this season, regardless of whether or not Spies comes in.

The racing is flat AND I can't even get good content. The production quality of Dorna's content was enough to keep me around, but now that is gone as well.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gary @ Apr 22 2008, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>if you find the moto gp a ...... joke and not even worth watching then i suggest YOU DONT its that simple there are another million .... t v channels to watch


Yes or, Dorna could take notice of what the fans are saying and take action to improve the sport.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Apr 21 2008, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'd critique your posts, but they're SO ....... long and boring

Don't think your serious with that, but I do agree with the long part. After watching the AMA Supersport race, I imagine what MotoGP would be like with a 15 lap race, instead of a 25-30 lapper.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Apr 21 2008, 07:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So you wanna have the Garage Sale at my place or yours?

LINTIFIED

LINTIFIED, never heard that .... before, my dryer usally takes all that away, of course if I remember to empty the catcher

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Apr 21 2008, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>All of them under 60kg.

Welcome to horse racing. Skill is tertiary at best. The machine is the star of the show.

Dude you don't think horse Jockies have skill? I still bet on the horse and not the Jockey though, unless the jockster has gained a few pounds.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Frizzle @ Apr 21 2008, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Engine braking too.
The bikes can stop so late now that overtaking is becoming more difficult.

Banning both has at least made F1 a little more watchable because of the occasional mistake.
Problem is a mistake in Motogp tends to be a little more serious.
I'm not convinced it's going to make the racing closer though because every race weekend there seems to be one or two riders that have a pace advantage over their rivals. It's not always the same guys but it does tend to space out the field at the front. Breakaways are then inevitable as it's usually part of a mid race strategy to demoralise the opposition.
I'm not sure what the answer is to close up the racing, but I guess things are worth trying.
Having said that I don't find it boring to see someone break the field. Stoner, Pedrosa & Lorenzo have all broken the back of the chasing pack over the last 3 races and I still enjoyed them all immensely.
Get rid of :
1) fly by wire throttle,
2) the ability of the bike to know where it is on the circuit
3) the fuel limit.

Removing the fuel limit will get rid of a lot of the more complex electronics automatically (such as the Duke idling through corners) as the only reason they're on the bike in the first place is to conserve fuel. Removing the other two bits will leave TC for "safety" unchanged, but will make the rider control the throttle with only engine maps per gear at his disposal. This would be more like the 990 era, just with less power, so the close racing should return.

Take a look at the BSB races from Thruxton for close racing excitement.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Apr 21 2008, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'd critique your posts, but they're SO ....... long and boring
Ok, fine. I'm going to Utah for WSBK/AMA, you in? Its only a 9 hour drive from where I live. General Admission is $60 for 2day pass (already purchased my tix & camp site). I'm gonna go watch some "really exciting" motorcycle racing, are you coming along (or you just gonna 'talk' .... about MotoGP?) First six-pack is on me if you show up. (You do like Mexican beer right; Tecate, Pacifico, Dos XX, etc).

You're invited too Rog. I'll even pay for your tix. Same .... applies for Laguna. Stay a couple months and you'll get to see exciting WSBK & "boring" MotoGP. Room, board, booze, & food on me! Get your ... down here.

I dislike moto gp this year too but Im still gonna watch it because its motorcycle road racing, hell Ill even watch the red bull rookies cup haha

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 21 2008, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Is it me or have I read the same thread topic THREE times?

Noodle=Curve=Mekizo

Who's next: "I hate MotoGP, its ....... boring, look at me, I'm not gonna watch it anymore--comments..."
attention whores... ya gotta have a chuckle.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Apr 21 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Take a look at the BSB races from Thruxton for close racing excitement.
i would..... if i could ...... speed.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ Apr 21 2008, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I imagine what MotoGP would be like with a 15 lap race
how about 2... ala wsbk

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Apr 22 2008, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i would..... if i could ...... speed.

Torrents are your friend

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Apr 22 2008, 01:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i would..... if i could ...... speed.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Frizzle @ Apr 22 2008, 01:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Torrents are your friend
Indeed. Just join Racing Underground for FREE and download to your hearts content - just remember to keep uploading for a decent time too. I'm in Oz ATM. How else do yo think I got the BSB coverage.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Apr 22 2008, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Indeed. Just join Racing Underground for FREE and download to your hearts content - just remember to keep uploading for a decent time too. I'm in Oz ATM. How else do yo think I got the BSB coverage.

RU is one but there are others as well.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Frizzle @ Apr 21 2008, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Torrents are your friend
What is this?