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MotoGP: 2015 round 18 - Valencia (SPOILERS)

The shitstorm Rossi has created. If he wins he will look like the all conquering hero having to come from the back. If he loses meh what do you expect he had to come from the back. And if JLo wins he was gifted it and doesn't deserve it. Nevermind 5 more poles 2 to 3 more wins and generally being the faster one most weekends. And no yamaha party.
 
In the unlikely event that the Doctored does not get his title it will definitely be a dangerous and desperate situation at the track and around the world. Of this I have no doubt. It will be somber at best.

Another point, we will be privy in stark display to the parity disparity of the GP grid.
 
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Jumkie said:
In the unlikely event that the Doctored does not get his title it will definitely be a dangerous and desperate situation at the track and around the world. Of this I have no doubt. It will be somber at best.

Another point, we will be privy in stark display to the parity disparity of the GP grid.
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Please explain?? "Dangerous and desperate situation"??
 
Dr No said:
Sikh. Defence?
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11 yrs gang violence detective in Van., 4 tours of combat duty, military intelligence (oxymoron, I know), lt. Colonel... More qualified than political lifers that usually .... up the ministry!
 
michaelm said:
Didn't say that. I think Jorge can win the race, but he is 7 points behind, not 4.
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I don't think Rossi has the pace to get past 4th unless one of the top 3 dnf's. Even if that happens and Lorenzo wins, he will more than likely win the title. If Rossi makes 2nd I will bow and kiss the ring
 
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SlartyBartFast said:
Rossi said Race Direction has already given him the exact hold time of lights. What an incredible start he will have.
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If true ............ very poor form by RD as that is pandering to one and not all (but again .......... if true as of late VR has been happy to throw people under a bus).



Now, again if true, one wonders where the cries of 'race fix' will come from?


Edited to add - I doubt that RD have said anything but if they have ............ let the proverbial rain down on them from above
 
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Mick D said:
So many variables... "upper hand" is a tough call to make definitively.
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Mick, would you rather go into the last round 7 points in front or equal or behind ..........

If you are in front in the points than you are at a serious advantage as you are not racing for first, you are simply racing (in this case) Lorenzo and whilst yes, the initial gap in placing terms may not help, it is not the biggest hindrance
 
MM will use JL as a mobile burm on the first corner, JL will then pick up his bike and chase Rossi down, finally kicking him off his bike on the final turn on the last lap and then go on to win the championship while carrying 3 penalty points into 2016.

#Ooops_soooorrrie!
 
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Gaz said:
Mick, would you rather go into the last round 7 points in front or equal or behind ..........

If you are in front in the points than you are at a serious advantage as you are not racing for first, you are simply racing (in this case) Lorenzo and whilst yes, the initial gap in placing terms may not help, it is not the biggest hindrance
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This is the thing, it is not in Jorge's control. Jorge can follow the most perfect qualifying lap of his career with the most perfect race of his career and still lose the championship by 2 points. If Valentino had a 7 point lead through entirely legal means then this would reflect his superiority over the previous 17 rounds and there could be no complaint about it either.

VR has won from 8th this year, and if unwritten rules have become semi-official he will clear most of the back markers fairly quickly. It will come down to how the tyres perform on the HRC bikes over race distance, and how hard the HRC guys, and perhaps Iannone, are prepared to race him after the furore of recent weeks. It is actually a better outcome for most excluding Jorge and a few "Rossi haters", including some on this infamous Rossi Haters Forum, for Rossi to win the championship, even HRC and their riders will attract hatred for thwarting the 10th title.

If conditions suit the hard tyre and he changed to that tyre it is not impossible he could run Jorge down anyway, Jorge has had only 4th or 5th place pace on that tyre at times in the past and has run out of tyre on "his" tyre on occasion. If you wanted to script this, VR finding miraculous pace on the hard tyre would also be the way to go.
 
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Gaz said:
Mick, would you rather go into the last round 7 points in front or equal or behind ..........

If you are in front in the points than you are at a serious advantage as you are not racing for first, you are simply racing (in this case) Lorenzo and whilst yes, the initial gap in placing terms may not help, it is not the biggest hindrance
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Well... if I was battling butterhammerhead and had shown year long consistency vs his slightly inconsistent but potentially terrifying early speed and metronomic pace I would feel comfortable with a 25+ point lead!!!

Starting from the back of the grid, having to pass 20-odd riders, in Spain, on this track, with a seven point lead would NOT make me feel like I had the upper hand.
 
Mick D said:
Starting from the back of the grid, having to pass 20-odd riders, in Spain, on this track, with a seven point lead would NOT make me feel like I had the upper hand.
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Understand where you are coming from but we have to be realistic and ask how many of these 20 or so riders will be CAPABLE of putting up much of a fight. I use the word CAPABLE purely because most of the field does not have the machinery or ability of Rossi and so those further down the field may want to fight, but simply will be so outgunned that before they made a decision to fight, VR will be past

It will likely only bet he top 10 or so that will have 'fastish' machine, but again only three others will have the capability and machinery to win the race (MM, DP, JL) so once he gets to the top 10, his race against JL starts.

There may well be some that make the passage easier but there will also be many who will race their usual race and so VR will have to earn the position (as it should be) but as mentioned, I suspect that he will not care of positions other than JL.

His danger will be the making of a stupid or silly pass that may result in an incident that delays of causes him concern ............ and whilst yes we have seen some silly ones over the years it is arguable as to whether he can make 2 mistakes in consecutive races (even more arguable, is whether one would be classed as a mistake)

That said, sh*t yeah he would want to be 25+ points in front but circumstances mean that he is not and as such, race management will be critical
 
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