Joined Feb 2007
11K Posts | 2K+
Tennessee
3rd Dani PEDROSA Repsol Honda Team SPA
1 2'04.310 32.128 30.746 29.080 32.356 189.3
2 1'56.216 25.574 30.254 28.589 31.799 312.8
3 1'55.899 25.290 30.286 28.515 31.808 323.4
4 1'55.392 25.223 30.063 28.346 31.760 322.6
5 1'55.866 25.175 30.179 28.549 31.963 324.0
6 1'55.655 25.231 29.947 28.567 31.910 324.3
7 1'55.721 25.236 30.017 28.549 31.919 321.0
8 1'55.724 25.279 30.048 28.507 31.890 320.7
9 1'56.212 25.131 30.222 28.935 31.924 320.0
10 1'55.988 25.226 30.148 28.656 31.958 321.5
11 1'56.024 25.243 30.121 28.667 31.993 321.6
12 1'56.037 25.206 30.058 28.851 31.922 321.0
13 1'56.472 25.277 30.441 28.800 31.954 321.6
14 1'56.475 25.285 30.575 28.698 31.917 323.7
15 1'56.087 25.231 30.409 28.528 31.919 323.5
16 1'56.241 25.483 30.203 28.667 31.888 321.2
17 1'56.346 25.234 30.368 28.763 31.981 323.7
18 1'56.546 25.271 30.322 28.759 32.194 322.2
19 1'56.652 25.424 30.545 28.700 31.983 322.9
20 1'56.585 25.411 30.353 28.776 32.045 324.8
21 1'56.930 25.405 30.369 29.188 31.968 322.1
22 1'56.242 25.356 30.356 28.705 31.825 322
Those last 10 lap times are just strange, Slow, fast, slow, fast. Im not asking anyone to believe me, because i didnt state it as a matter of fact. Its a theory based on past history and recent performance.
Joined Oct 2006
25K Posts | 4K+
Your Mom's House
Stoner had a fantastic race. I held my breath hoping nothing bad would happen, as he showed exceptional patience and fantastic speed. That win was not a gift, he rode on the safer side of a knife edge (I say this because we make the mistake of thinking he "cruised" to a victory).
Lorenzo showed great tenacity, but I'm not convince that Yamaha is as bad as he keeps trying to convince us (and some have entirely swallowed). He may have been so happy because perhaps he feared (from indications of Honda domination during testing) he wouldn't be able to defend his title against Stoner & his teammates, but to his relief, the racing proved otherwise and I think the celebration, though odd when not winning, may have been simply a sigh of relief surfacing as a flash of emotion.
Pedrosa did well enough, though he felt compelled to reveal his arm pump problem, a problem he had not mentioned much if at all during winter testing, especially the several day's at Qatar leading up to the race. He looked distraught in post race interview. Being on the podium while injured is a pretty good accomplishment, so I'm not to worried about him.
Dovi and Sic will be and interesting teammate battle.
Speaking of teammate battles, one that didn't transpire was Spies. Its always hard to live up to expectations when set very high. I'll echo others here and say, he seemed unimpressive trying to pass an injured Rossi on a ...... bike.
Rossi, on Ducati was where I think we expected. Which is a surprise, because I repeated heard, the only surprise will be if Rossi doesn't surprise.
Barbara dropped like a stone; and he wasn't one of the guys who crashed..........(speculation)
Nicky, bad luck coupled with testing duties resulted in a .... result, though his determination to a fault is still undeterred...dumb ........
CLICK HERE
(feel free to read some of the comments)
Ask yourself, what is Ducati's intention regarding Hayden? Are they interested in his competitive performance now? Or are his results of no consequence, but only serve to provide a test bed while Rossi is at very least given a chance to post "decent" results. That is exactly what message is from Ducati when they say what Nicky is riding "is the future" (though they refuse to call it "testing", while plenty of people refuse to understand the message). That is about as explicit as they can say it, what Nicky is racing with is NOT in its race form, but still an ongoing process. Meanwhile, the "decent" (or as they call it "standard" package) will be used to provide race results until "the future" (not here yet) is developed. Make no mistake, until solutions are found by the test rider now know as Nicky Hayden, the results of Nicky Hayden are nothing more that 'DUCATI T1"=Ducati Test Rider #1. Your take regarding the above article will reveal what you already know or need to know about the authenticity of this sport and the interpretations of actual race results that have come before it; regardless if you accept it or not.
Lorenzo showed great tenacity, but I'm not convince that Yamaha is as bad as he keeps trying to convince us (and some have entirely swallowed). He may have been so happy because perhaps he feared (from indications of Honda domination during testing) he wouldn't be able to defend his title against Stoner & his teammates, but to his relief, the racing proved otherwise and I think the celebration, though odd when not winning, may have been simply a sigh of relief surfacing as a flash of emotion.
Pedrosa did well enough, though he felt compelled to reveal his arm pump problem, a problem he had not mentioned much if at all during winter testing, especially the several day's at Qatar leading up to the race. He looked distraught in post race interview. Being on the podium while injured is a pretty good accomplishment, so I'm not to worried about him.
Dovi and Sic will be and interesting teammate battle.
Speaking of teammate battles, one that didn't transpire was Spies. Its always hard to live up to expectations when set very high. I'll echo others here and say, he seemed unimpressive trying to pass an injured Rossi on a ...... bike.
Rossi, on Ducati was where I think we expected. Which is a surprise, because I repeated heard, the only surprise will be if Rossi doesn't surprise.
Barbara dropped like a stone; and he wasn't one of the guys who crashed..........(speculation)
Nicky, bad luck coupled with testing duties resulted in a .... result, though his determination to a fault is still undeterred...dumb ........
Read my lips; "there will be no walls at Ducati! We dont need to, because we speak ITALIAN!!!!!!"
Jum got it right when he said; Nicky has now become a professional personal TESTER. His results are of no consequence. While Nicky remains Rossi's teammate, his career as a contender is over. Of this there is NO DOUBT; les anybody forget exactly why Valentino has abandoned Yamaha and moved to Ducati, because of the audacity of the Japanese maker to give their riders equal treatment--something unacceptable and unconscionable in the mind of Rossi. 'Nicky Hayden has become a PAWN in the life of Valentino Rossi.'--Jumkie circa 2010
I'll also add, this means all Ducati rider is now the official test mules for #46.
CLICK HERE
(feel free to read some of the comments)
Ask yourself, what is Ducati's intention regarding Hayden? Are they interested in his competitive performance now? Or are his results of no consequence, but only serve to provide a test bed while Rossi is at very least given a chance to post "decent" results. That is exactly what message is from Ducati when they say what Nicky is riding "is the future" (though they refuse to call it "testing", while plenty of people refuse to understand the message). That is about as explicit as they can say it, what Nicky is racing with is NOT in its race form, but still an ongoing process. Meanwhile, the "decent" (or as they call it "standard" package) will be used to provide race results until "the future" (not here yet) is developed. Make no mistake, until solutions are found by the test rider now know as Nicky Hayden, the results of Nicky Hayden are nothing more that 'DUCATI T1"=Ducati Test Rider #1. Your take regarding the above article will reveal what you already know or need to know about the authenticity of this sport and the interpretations of actual race results that have come before it; regardless if you accept it or not.
While i am still pretty sure pedro does have a legit issue, i remember a few times him almost throwing away good/winning positions suddenly and for no apparent reason....
A couple of seasons back springs to mind where he was way ahead of everyone, and in half a lap(if memory serves) rossi caught up to like within 0.5 seconds.....from being like 6 seconds behind, this was on either the last, or second to last lap.....and he held him off after thinking "oh ....". I cannot remember the race but i certainly remember the situation.
Its stuff like this that makes you wonder with dani.
Even nicer to see that Lauren Vickers has followed him accross to the Pramac Racing Team.
She was holding an ice pack on his knee after his stack. That would make anyone feel better.
Even nicer to see that Lauren Vickers has followed him accross to the Pramac Racing Team.
She was holding an ice pack on his knee after his stack. That would make anyone feel better.
I reckon he's knobbing her. Cant say i blame him
Joined Jun 2008
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USA
Jum, I hope for his sake there is a get out of dodge claus in his 2 year contract! Me thinks he may be better off on a Suter/BMW, Aprillia or Gresini for 2012.
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http://www.waynegardnerapproved.com...nt&view=category&layout=blog&id=62&Itemid=511
Gardner sums it up pretty well here.
Jumkie - agree with you about Nicky - I feel he would have been a lot further up if he was not relegated to testing.
Gardner sums it up pretty well here.
Jumkie - agree with you about Nicky - I feel he would have been a lot further up if he was not relegated to testing.
I reckon he's knobbing her. Cant say i blame him
Lol - They have been together for quite a while, if he's not Knobbing her by now he must be a poof.
Joined May 2008
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Southern Aridzona - Hell's doorstep.
I reckon he's knobbing her. Cant say i blame him
I reckon you're right.............how 'bout another pic of her???
I reckon he's knobbing her. Cant say i blame him
Rog,
They have been a couple for a while and have often been seen in and around gyms on Sydney's northern beaches during the off season.
Oh, and Rog, I will try to send you a file that I am sure you will like of Lauren (otherwise called LEGZ11) as she appeared in a Motorcycle Awareness Advert for the Motorcycle Council of NSW (I will try to send the uncensored version)
Gaz
Nicky does look pretty pissed at the moment. That coupled with interviews such as this make me start to change my view on all of this.
Let's say Nicky is the test rider at the moment. I strongly believe one of the main reasons why that is the case is that there is just not enough testing anymore. There's not enough time for the manufacturers to get their bikes sorted outside of the races and that combined with the fact that the Ducati as it stands is not a bike any quality rider can jump on and win means that they have to work additionally hard to change it. In the long run though, if they can make the thing rideable by a larger number of riders through taking pain now in a year which they believe they have no chance of getting the championship anyway, they will be in a better position for next year. The last thing that they would want is to carry over the issues they have now to the 1000cc bikes. From this perspective, Nicky should benefit from his testing provided he doesn't get screwed because of a bad year.
Can someone explain why Dorna has reduced the amount of testing (with the actual riders) so significantly over the last few years? Is it another "cost saving" measure? Getting useful data about what works and what doesn't seems to be a very crucial in a prototype series, and I just don't understand what party would be motivated to have less testing.
What if Rossi had used the other package and Hayden the standard one? Then wouldn't anybody say Rossi recieved the new thing?
Dont riders and their teams decide what to bring and ride before every gp?
Dont riders and their teams decide what to bring and ride before every gp?
i'm no pedrosa fan but this "mentally weak" line is ridiculous..
he shattered both ankles (at PI if i remember correctly) when on 125s and then won the very first 250 race he entered whilst still nursing those injuries.
he can get back on a motogp bike after one tried to kill him at motegi by having the throttle stick open. mechanical faliures will damage confidence which all riders need to be able to do what they do.he led stoner at qatar for half the race, not a feat that anyone else could manage this year. if thats mentally weak, then what is mentally tough?
maybe he is struggling with shoulder issues? if casey can have scaphoid trouble and rossi can have shoulder problems, why cant the brittle midget be hampered by a physical condition too? i'm inclined to believe him, why not?
as for the race, its a good sign that this season is going to be one of those classic seasons, i just hope it pans out that way..
Mentally weak refers to his inability to strike back once passed by another rider. He consistently is able to hold a very fast pace when at the front but as soon as he gets passed he drops back. This has nothing to do with injury. If this is not a mental weakness please explain exactly what it is as I am very interested to hear your explanation of this frequent occurrence.
It is then human nature to find an excuse for the drop in performance so as you do not have to admit to yourself that you have a mental strength issue. In this instance a recovering injury appears to have become very painful after just 12 laps where it did not seem to be an issue when doing 50 laps day after day.
Never been a big fan of Gardner's opinions (though his riding was brilliant) ever since he slagged Hayden at Valencia during his farewell GP with Honda. His remarks on that day were very poorly thought out, and I feel this article is guilty of the same lack of perspective. I definitely agree that MotoGP fans should "get used" to the idea of Casey Stoner at the front; however, this is not the time to boast about Casey Stoner's exploits. Neither is it the time to spoon feed humble pie to Casey's detractors.
The next 4 rounds of the world championship are Jerez, Estoril, LeMans, and Catalunya.
Points at Jerez, Estoril, LeMans, and Catalunya during the last 3 seasons:
Lorenzo - 231
Rossi - 210
Dani - 204
Casey - 141
Both Casey and Jorge had 2 DNFs during the last 3 years, but Jorge has outscored Casey by 30 pts per season. Last year, Lorenzo won these 4 GPs, and outscored Stoner by 53 pts. We are entering Lorenzo's Land. I have no doubt that the RC212V will prove to be a more effective bike than the Ducati GP, but if Casey puts a foot wrong during these next 2 months, he could wake up in during a downpour at Donnington, trying to figure out how to claw back a 30pt deficit and 2 championship positions.
I'm not saying that what will happen, but the numbers show that Casey's real test starts at Jerez. Jorge just passed his first big quiz. He aced it. Now Casey must undergo rigorous testing for the next 2 months. If Casey can come out ahead through these four rounds, all he needs to do is keep it upright, and make sure he lays off the dairy products. It will be interesting to see how hard he pushes. Doohan used to say that he'd let the Spaniards to their thing in Spain and he'd win everywhere else. I wonder what Casey will decide since 3 of the next 4 races are basically Spanish GPs.
