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Sorry mate, the link didn't work for me, but as for the question of could Marc win on a Ducati?
Yes.
Yes he could.
 
Here's the text of the article on gpone.com



Ducati arrives in BRNO on the wave of the success of WDW, which confirmed the red public's love for the brand.

World Ducati Weekend will have also proved informative for Borgo Panigale top management, in attendance at Misano with a less than rosy situation in the respective MotoGP and Superbike championships right now.

Leaving aside the production-derived series where Davies and Melandri seemed as cool about the arrival of the new V4 as Claudio Domenicali and co. seemed cool in their regard. For the rest, it's clear that SBK, despite the commitment of Aruba, is an 'option B' for the Borgo Panigale manufacturer.

We cannot say the same about MotoGP, where Ducati, strong from its second-place finish in 2017 with Andrea Dovizioso and onerous hiring of Jorge Lorenzo, arrived on this year's scene with much greater ambitions than its current 4th and 6th place in the standings that, objectively, means the red bike can now only aspire to a runners-up spot on the championship podium.

The current positions come down to a few mistakes too many for Dovi and another slow start for Lorenzo, already a former rider after having signed a two-year contract with Honda for 2019-20.

And this is the point: the ducatisti, though fond of the current riders, do not appear enamored, the most highly praised riders at WDW proving to be Troy Bayliss, whose Panigale V4 S beat everyone else's in the auction on eBay, and Casey Stoner.

Two former riders who remain in the fans' hearts due to their riding style, but particularly their successes.

Once upon a time, they said ‘ win or die!’, and while this is not a socially-accepted slogan in our sport, it does perfectly sum up the ducatista's fighting spirit - they do not want excuses, they don't accept a drop in performance or attitude, they just want their riders to give it their all, and more. Always!

Qualities that none of the current crop of riders appear to possess right now, subject to too many highs and lows. Dovizioso was firmly in the spotlight following his 2017 results but has lost that attention this year, despite making a wonderful start in Qatar.
Marquez and Lorenzo, the new Honda pairing for 2019-2020. Ducati already has Marc in its sights

Despondency has thus spread through the ducati soul, despite Lorenzo's wins at Mugello and Barcelona. He was just too late. In fact, the Majorcan's renewed competitiveness casts a shadow over Dovizioso, one that the Italian needs to step out of as quickly as possible.

As if that was not enough, despite its fondness for Danilo Petrucci, Ducati has only offered him a one-year contract, which leads us to think that they view him as a temporary solution, as they await a 2020 replacement, though it is not yet clear who this might be. Bagnaia? Miller? What's clear is that Domenicali has chosen to leave a door open.

And there are fans who are already looking to 2021, hoping that the Bolognese firm is able to hire Marc Marquez, enticing him away from Honda. Hopeful, perhaps, that the 'cohabitation' with Lorenzo turns out to be less than a bed of roses.

After all, fans like those seen at WDW deserve the best. Watch the video by Marco Balvetti and try to tell us otherwise!
 
Thanks, mate. Much appreciated. I think it's not impossible for Marc to go across, once he's completed his current contract that is.
 
Thanks, mate. Much appreciated. I think it's not impossible for Marc to go across, once he's completed his current contract that is.

I think he may. The whole Rossi comparison is too great to ignore. He almost HAS to go to another manufacturer and capture a title to be on pace with Rossi. His competitive nature tells me he will go somewhere to prove he can.
 
I think he may. The whole Rossi comparison is too great to ignore. He almost HAS to go to another manufacturer and capture a title to be on pace with Rossi. His competitive nature tells me he will go somewhere to prove he can.

This narrative that Rossi left Honda to cement his legacy by winning on another bike is hokum. He left over money. The way it was presented at the time was this romantic idea that Rossi left because he was a historian of the sport blah blah blah. The truth is, Rossi figured out wat he was worth in the world of sports and made demands that Honda refused to meet . Honda said the bike was the star and they figured they could plug any number of riders onto it and win. They now know that is not the case and will pay and do whatever it takes to keep him mentally and financially happy.
 
I think he may. The whole Rossi comparison is too great to ignore. He almost HAS to go to another manufacturer and capture a title to be on pace with Rossi. His competitive nature tells me he will go somewhere to prove he can.


I used to think that too. Not later than a few weeks ago I also thought (and even wrote, I think) that Marc would have been really unhappy about Jorge's arrival.

But his latest race performances as well as his most recent interviews made me understand that Marc is something else. He doesn't care about comparisons, nor rivals, nor manufacturers. He solely cares about winning "here and now", if you know what I mean.

If he'll switch to another team in the future (which he might, of course) it would only be in the case he'd think that another bike would make him even faster and/or performing better at the races.
 
This narrative that Rossi left Honda to cement his legacy by winning on another bike is hokum. He left over money. The way it was presented at the time was this romantic idea that Rossi left because he was a historian of the sport blah blah blah. The truth is, Rossi figured out wat he was worth in the world of sports and made demands that Honda refused to meet . Honda said the bike was the star and they figured they could plug any number of riders onto it and win. They now know that is not the case and will pay and do whatever it takes to keep him mentally and financially happy.


Agree.

Let's be fair he won on the Yamaha out of talent and speed that were his own, but the whole romance built around it was nothing but good marketing.

And that's not wrong at all, but the way some people worship his "miracles" on the Yamaha...ew
 
This narrative that Rossi left Honda to cement his legacy by winning on another bike is hokum. He left over money. The way it was presented at the time was this romantic idea that Rossi left because he was a historian of the sport blah blah blah. The truth is, Rossi figured out wat he was worth in the world of sports and made demands that Honda refused to meet . Honda said the bike was the star and they figured they could plug any number of riders onto it and win. They now know that is not the case and will pay and do whatever it takes to keep him mentally and financially happy.

I never said Rossi left for any romantic reasons, I said MM would leave to keep pace with Rossi. I know why Rossi left.
 
If and when it happens - it’ll be after winning a tenth championship. Rossi didn’t set out to win ten. If he had he would have trained more and been more disciplined. MM - has witnessed the whole drama over 10 - and while he may not talk about it - it must be a goal. If Marquez Does does win ten on the Honda - you can be sure they will be willing to outbid anyone to keep him from going elsewhere.
 
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I used to think that too. Not later than a few weeks ago I also thought (and even wrote, I think) that Marc would have been really unhappy about Jorge's arrival.

But his latest race performances as well as his most recent interviews made me understand that Marc is something else. He doesn't care about comparisons, nor rivals, nor manufacturers. He solely cares about winning "here and now", if you know what I mean.

If he'll switch to another team in the future (which he might, of course) it would only be in the case he'd think that another bike would make him even faster and/or performing better at the races.
True, however Marc is only 25 and the 'here and now' mentality is indicative of that. Once he gets a bit older then the appeal of the legacy may become more prevalent.
 
True, however Marc is only 25 and the 'here and now' mentality is indicative of that. Once he gets a bit older then the appeal of the legacy may become more prevalent.

If he wins this year, he'll be 3 titles away from 10.

He could in the best case scenario have 10 at 28 years old. I think if he hits 10 at that point he might go to Ducati just to try and win a title on that bike because by that point it'll have been 14 years since Stoner won the 2007 title and I think he is the only rider currently that could win a title on the Ducati because of how he rides.
 
If he wins this year, he'll be 3 titles away from 10.

He could in the best case scenario have 10 at 28 years old. I think if he hits 10 at that point he might go to Ducati just to try and win a title on that bike because by that point it'll have been 14 years since Stoner won the 2007 title and I think he is the only rider currently that could win a title on the Ducati because of how he rides.


and why would he wanna "stop" at 10 titles?

That is Rossi's goal, not Marc's.....
 
and why would he wanna "stop" at 10 titles?

That is Rossi's goal, not Marc's.....

Never said he wanted to stop at 10. He'll go to Ducati to deliver that long awaited title. He can overcome the corner deficiencies with the Desmo because of how he enters corners. Swing the back out to get the bike turned before mid corner full lean.
 
He'd do well on the Ducati. That's a stop and go bike that is strong on the brakes, and strong on corner exit.
 
This narrative that Rossi left Honda to cement his legacy by winning on another bike is hokum. He left over money. The way it was presented at the time was this romantic idea that Rossi left because he was a historian of the sport blah blah blah. The truth is, Rossi figured out wat he was worth in the world of sports and made demands that Honda refused to meet . Honda said the bike was the star and they figured they could plug any number of riders onto it and win. They now know that is not the case and will pay and do whatever it takes to keep him mentally and financially happy.

This is what happens when Neanderthal kids get dropped on their heads.
 
Agree.

Let's be fair he won on the Yamaha out of talent and speed that were his own, but the whole romance built around it was nothing but good marketing.

And that's not wrong at all, but the way some people worship his "miracles" on the Yamaha...ew

Rossi winning the first year on the Yamaha was a major achievement which can’t be denied. His talent was obviously the major factor, but others were involved, particularly Masao Furusawa. Rossi going to Yamaha was likely also multifactorial, with Dorna/Carmelo rumoured to have been involved.

I can imagine Dorna being keen for MM to go to Ducati at some stage, it would be a good narrative for them, although MM may not be particularly enamoured of Carmelo. I believe MM is a student of the sport and winning on a different bike could well eventually be something he wants to do, although like others I am also sure Honda would pay to keep him.
 
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What, it takes a significant head injury for a Neanderthal kid to be reduced to the intellectual level of the average Rossi fan?.

As a long time Rossi fan, I resemble that remark...however..

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yes, that is hanging above my bed...
 

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