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Michelin are bloody useless

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RCV600RR

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They are being humiliated! Truly, they have no excuse to rely on here. The surface is new and they have had the opportunity to test beforehand, as did Bridgestone.

They only have ONE rider in the top 10(CE), the rest at the back of the results sheet.

Remember when everyone was saying Rossi was wrong to switch to Bridgestone at the start of the season? Well, the man clearly knew what he was talking about.

On the bright side, it looks like we're set for another epic battle between Rossi and Stoner based on FP1.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RCV600RR @ Aug 15 2008, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>They are being humiliated! Truly, they have no excuse to rely on here. The surface is new and they have had the opportunity to test beforehand, as did Bridgestone.

They only have ONE rider in the top 10(CE), the rest at the back of the results sheet.
You have to wonder whether they have given up and a one tyre brand championship next year is already a fait accompli.

During the previous somewhat lengthy tyre discussions last year it was suggested they were having financial problems which may make developing motogp tyres something of a luxury.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RCV600RR @ Aug 15 2008, 07:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>They are being humiliated! Truly, they have no excuse to rely on here. The surface is new and they have had the opportunity to test beforehand, as did Bridgestone.

They only have ONE rider in the top 10(CE), the rest at the back of the results sheet.

Remember when everyone was saying Rossi was wrong to switch to Bridgestone at the start of the season? Well, the man clearly knew what he was talking about.

On the bright side, it looks like we're set for another epic battle between Rossi and Stoner based on FP1.

It wasnt that Rossi was wrong for switching to Bridgestone,It was wrong that the he strong armed Dorna,who in turn,strong armed Bridgestone.That and the fact he split his team was what upset alot of people.They looked at him as a hypocrite because for years he flourished with Michelin and their overnighters advantage.I would guess at this point he would be against a spec tire since he has what he wanted.He certaainly doesnt want Pedro,Lorenzo and the rest on the good stuff.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Aug 15 2008, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It wasnt that Rossi was wrong for switching to Bridgestone,It was wrong that the he strong armed Dorna,who in turn,strong armed Bridgestone.That and the fact he split his team was what upset alot of people.They looked at him as a hypocrite because for years he flourished with Michelin and their overnighters advantage.I would guess at this point he would be against a spec tire since he has what he wanted.He certaainly doesnt want Pedro,Lorenzo and the rest on the good stuff.

blah blah blah blah... bring on the spec tire
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Aug 15 2008, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>blah blah blah blah... bring on the spec tire
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i think next year whether we have a "spec" tire rule or not, we are going to have only one brand that ppl will be on.
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i'm sure everyone right now is trying to jump ship!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (djm @ Aug 15 2008, 08:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i think next year whether we have a "spec" tire rule or not, we are going to have only one brand that ppl will be on.
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i'm sure everyone right now is trying to jump ship!

fine by me..best thing for the sport.. should be bout rider/bike..not tires.
 
should have sent michelin home with dunlop..... everyone for stones i say then we can see more than 2 riders having a battle this is really starting to suck
 
Michelin have been very good until Laguna.
Now it looks like they suck at 2 tracks in a row.
If I remember rightly they were pretty ordinary at Misano last year as well.
3 bad tracks in a row will really hurt their brand.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Aug 15 2008, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>fine by me..best thing for the sport.. should be bout rider/bike..not tires.

i hear what you're saying, and agree. only problem i see with spec tires, or only having one tire brand is the lack of competition. hopefully it won't slow bridgestone's progress down on developing better tires if they have no-one to compete with.
 
Which of course it will. They will have A B C D tires and that is it. No pressure to upgrade at all. More even racing won't happen. Bayliss, Haga, Corser are always up front just like Stoner, Rossi and Pedrosa in motogp.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Aug 15 2008, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Which of course it will. They will have A B C D tires and that is it. No pressure to upgrade at all. More even racing won't happen. Bayliss, Haga, Corser are always up front just like Stoner, Rossi and Pedrosa in motogp.

exactly. which is why i'm reluctant to jump on the spec tire rule wagon. look at pirelli. i'm not sure if anyone here rides aggressive on them or not, but they don't hold .... to dunlop and bridgestone (that's my opinion anyway). i think because pirelli hasn't had to really develop their tire, so they aren't as far along as some of the other brands.
 
To be fair as somebody pointed out elsewhere two factory michelin riders are not in the best of shape and one isn't even there.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (djm @ Aug 15 2008, 09:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i hear what you're saying, and agree. only problem i see with spec tires, or only having one tire brand is the lack of competition. hopefully it won't slow bridgestone's progress down on developing better tires if they have no-one to compete with.

the competetion should be rider/bike not tire... not one series of racing in the world has been hurt by a spec tire rule..F1 SBK etc etc..
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Aug 15 2008, 09:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>To be fair as somebody pointed out elsewhere two factory michelin riders are not in the best of shape and one isn't even there.


ya, but michaelm, ya gotta admit, michelin has been struggling for some time now. they get it right for a few races, but overall .... not so much.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Aug 15 2008, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>the competetion should be rider/bike not tire... not one series of racing in the world has been hurt by a spec tire rule..F1 SBK etc etc..

That is a matter of opinon, i miss the tyre war in BSB, WSBK and F1
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Aug 15 2008, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That is a matter of opinon, i miss the tyre war in BSB, WSBK and F1

i'm sure you do cause you root for your favorite tire brand huh
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Aug 15 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i'm sure you do cause you root for your favorite tire brand huh
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I often don't have a particular prefference, but I don't think motor racing should neglect the vehicles as factors.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (djm @ Aug 15 2008, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>exactly. which is why i'm reluctant to jump on the spec tire rule wagon. look at pirelli. i'm not sure if anyone here rides aggressive on them or not, but they don't hold .... to dunlop and bridgestone (that's my opinion anyway). i think because pirelli hasn't had to really develop their tire, so they aren't as far along as some of the other brands.
To be fair, Pirellis have not been near the same level as Michelin and Bridgestone. I have the same reservations about switching to a spec tire, but I think Bridgestone or Michelin would continue to make great tires and continue development.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Aug 15 2008, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i'm sure you do cause you root for your favorite tire brand huh
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I actually do cheer on Michelin runners. Stupid but true.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Aug 15 2008, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>To be fair, Pirellis have not been near the same level as Michelin and Bridgestone.


kinda my point though isn't it?
 

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