Michael Scott: An Oasis in a Sea of Sh*t

Keshav said:

This again? Really??? I dispelled this nonsense last time. Your accusation is as baseless as every other one you've leveled at those you lash out at. There is absolutely no basis in reality for your claim. Cite any proof of this absurd allegation. You can't - because you just fabricated it out of thin air like you always do.

And bye the bye, to be on the safe side, when I went to the barbershop nearby in Haverstraw - which is 99% Mexican, I went to see my guy Manny for a haircut and I asked him about this. There were 9 other chilangos in the shop and he asked them if they'd ever even heard of the expression and they all laughed. He said, whatever pinche gringo told you this is ....... yanking your chain. Exactly as I said the first time you pulled this lie out of your ass.

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https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mexican Monkey

Keshav said:

This again? Really??? I dispelled this nonsense last time. Your accusation is as baseless as every other one you've leveled at those you lash out at. There is absolutely no basis in reality for your claim. Cite any proof of this absurd allegation. You can't - because you just fabricated it out of thin air like you always do.

And bye the bye, to be on the safe side, when I went to the barbershop nearby in Haverstraw - which is 99% Mexican, I went to see my guy Manny for a haircut and I asked him about this. There were 9 other chilangos in the shop and he asked them if they'd ever even heard of the expression and they all laughed. He said, whatever pinche gringo told you this is ....... yanking your chain. Exactly as I said the first time you pulled this lie out of your ass.

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I went to an Indian restaurant and asked those guys of it is racist to call a pasty white guy curryfart. They laughed and said no.

If you remove all the vitriolic nonsense from these threads, there would be like 178 posts - total.

Since I am not only a linguistic genius, but a internet maven, I have found the confusion over this term. Some people just don't like this stuff and find it offending to eat, or even talk about.

I don't know how racist Kraft is. I suppose it depends on your level of craziness, whether this is racist food or not. Mexican Monkey Bread

JohnnyKnockdown said:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mexican Monkey

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Based on the standard amount of special 'k' s deviation from the truth, the story about the barber shop with 99% Mexicanos translates into the biggest barber shop in the world.
How did I work this out?
Cant be 10 people in the barbershop as you cannot have 9.9 persons.
Must be 100 with 99 Mexicanos which is a pretty big shop.
Conclusion... Special 'k' wouldn't know the truth if it hit him in the face.

JohnnyKnockdown said:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mexican Monkey

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Not the same thing at all and you know it.

danski said:

Based on the standard amount of special 'k' s deviation from the truth, the story about the barber shop with 99% Mexicanos translates into the biggest barber shop in the world.
How did I work this out?
Cant be 10 people in the barbershop as you cannot have 9.9 persons.
Must be 100 with 99 Mexicanos which is a pretty big shop.
Conclusion... Special 'k' wouldn't know the truth if it hit him in the face.

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Reading comprehension - not your strong suit. The town of Haverstraw is 99% Mexican.

Iamapony said:

If you remove all the vitriolic nonsense from these threads, there would be like 178 posts - total.

Since I am not only a linguistic genius, but a internet maven, I have found the confusion over this term. Some people just don't like this stuff and find it offending to eat, or even talk about.

I don't know how racist Kraft is. I suppose it depends on your level of craziness, whether this is racist food or not. Mexican Monkey Bread

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There's the rub. :happy: Mexican monkey .... is just a silly-ass old fashioned nonsense expression like Chinese fire drill. Never used to
insult or debase anyone. Knockdown just looks for any preposterous excuse to get sanctimonious. This is the same guy who constantly denigrates women on one hand and on the other always worries about his daughter working the pole. The idea of him getting all high-handed PC is ludicrously hypocritical.

The expression references the silly antics of actual Mexican Monkeys.

Keshav said:

Reading comprehension - not your strong suit. The town of Haverstraw is 99% Mexican.

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Not surprising really, didn't you accuse me of cognitive dissonance before? Amongst your other attempts at insults.

danski said:

Based on the standard amount of special 'k' s deviation from the truth, the story about the barber shop with 99% Mexicanos translates into the biggest barber shop in the world.
How did I work this out?
Cant be 10 people in the barbershop as you cannot have 9.9 persons.
Must be 100 with 99 Mexicanos which is a pretty big shop.
Conclusion... Special 'k' wouldn't know the truth if it hit him in the face.

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Don’t you love the folk tales he spins? Im surprised there’s no rabbi in this one.
Isn’t he saying that every mexican knows the same things. That may not be racist, but stereotyping is racism’s prettier cousin

Keshav said:

There's the rub. :happy: Mexican monkey .... is just a silly-ass old fashioned nonsense expression like Chinese fire drill. Never used to
insult or debase anyone. Knockdown just looks for any preposterous excuse to get sanctimonious. This is the same guy who constantly denigrates women on one hand and on the other always worries about his daughter working the pole. The idea of him getting all high-handed PC is ludicrously hypocritical.

The expression references the silly antics of actual Mexican Monkeys.

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There you go again, bringing another family into things. Same old Kancer who just recently left me a thinly disguised threat in a PM, letting me know he has all my private information.
I’ll tell you the same thing now that I told you in the p.m. .... Off

JohnnyKnockdown said:

Don’t you love the folk tales he spins? Im surprised there’s no rabbi in this one.
Isn’t he saying that every mexican knows the same things. That may not be racist, but stereotyping is racism’s prettier cousin

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I've said my piece on this. It doesn't matter one iota what ........ you want to spin. The only people who even pretend to care about this are your fellow trolls, whose opinions mean nothing to me. Never have. Never will.

danski said:

Not surprising really, didn't you accuse me of cognitive dissonance before? Amongst your other attempts at insults.

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Not surprising that reading comprehension is not your strong point? No - I don't suppose it is.

Keshav said:

I've said my piece on this. It doesn't matter one iota what ........ you want to spin. The only people who even pretend to care about this are your fellow trolls, whose opinions mean nothing to me. Never have. Never will.

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So why do you keep talking .... about everybody and keep starting these wars if you don’t care. Once again, look around, there’s a flame war with you directly at the center of it all

Keshav said:

There's the rub. :happy: Mexican monkey .... is just a silly-ass old fashioned nonsense expression like Chinese fire drill. Never used to
insult or debase anyone. Knockdown just looks for any stupid excuse to get sanctimonious. This is the same guy who constantly denigrates women on one hand and on the other always worries about his daughter working the pole.

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Well, now we are opening a can of worms. Be careful there, pal. Because I have NO IDEA about "Mexican Monkey" derogatory remarks. However, I do know about "Donkey humpers", because they do exist in Tijuana and elsewhere. And of course, I know about Chinese fire drills, having done many, many of them as a young lad in the middle of the automobile epicenter, Southern California. I still have no idea why the Chinese get credit for this fun thing. What about the Scottish, damn it?

The irony of Johnny bitching about someone starting a flame war would have me in hysterics, if I had another scotch or four. Until then I will just roll my eyes. See?

Iamapony said:

Well, now we are opening a can of worms. Be careful there, pal. Because I have NO IDEA about "Mexican Monkey" derogatory remarks. However, I do know about "Donkey humpers", because they do exist in Tijuana and elsewhere. And of course, I know about Chinese fire drills, having done many, many of them as a young lad in the middle of the automobile epicenter, Southern California. I still have no idea why the Chinese get credit for this fun thing. What about the Scottish, damn it?

The irony of Johnny bitching about someone starting a flame war would have me in hysterics, if I had another scotch or four. Until then I will just roll my eyes. See?

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Be prepared for a laugh riot Amigo.

Jumkie said:

Though I’d like to point out by only two individuals, Kancer and Barry. Despite several respected members trying to modulate their wild ideations, these two have clung like mules onto the plot devised by their mulish mind: Synn must be the ‘same guy’ years before with the audacity to pushed back after we attacked him. Yeah, that’s insane. They can’t possibly imagine Synn as one of a long list of member that have been attacked by Kancer from the onset and has returned the treatment, albeit in spades and quite successfully made Kancer and Barry look foolish. Yet Kancer struggles to make the connection as to why there is some “differential” treatment? We may be on polar opposites of the debate RC6, but that hasn’t stopped me from attempting to engage you, as well as others who have presented their view logically. Sure, its difficult to keep from insulting each other as we navigate the argument, and who doesn’t like a nicely placed dig or two, its part of the fun; but as you see with those you have engaged like MikeM and JP, they make robust reasoning’s for their positions, which I believe you can respect.

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"Kancer". Lol. What a fitting moniker.

Agree with the above.

JohnnyKnockdown said:

So why do you keep talking .... about everybody and keep starting these wars if you don’t care. Once again, look around, there’s a flame war with you directly at the center of it all

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Well it's true. I do take a certain satisfaction in exposing you for the fraud you are. Why? Because you're so malicious and make everything so personal. And BTW - there was no flame war until Jumkie broke the unspoken truce. If you're looking to place blame... there's your man.

I hadn't said word one to you or him in ages despite the two of you constantly throwing your backhanded insults.

And I throw your question back at you. Why do you constantly talk .... about other people??? A day doesn't go by that you don't go like a mad dog barking insults at #22 who is the mildest most chill guy on PS; who hasn't said a word to you ages? Why??? Because you're a bitter troll who has nothing better to do than provoke more .....

Keshav said:

Well it's true. I do take a certain satisfaction in exposing you for the fraud you are. Why? Because you're so malicious and make everything so personal. And BTW - there was no flame war until Jumkie broke the unspoken truce. If you're looking to place blame... there's your man.

I hadn't said word one to you or him in ages despite the two of you constantly throwing your backhanded insults.

And I throw your question back at you. Why do you constantly talk .... about other people??? A day doesn't go by that you don't go like a mad dog barking insults at #22 who is the mildest most chill guy on PS; who hasn't said a word to you ages? Why??? Because you're a bitter troll who has nothing better to do than provoke more .....

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Once again you’ve exposed nothing except showing your a bitter old man that loves demeaning people.
Are you referring to the same chill 22 who conspired to threaten my teenage daughter . He’s a piece of .... just like you are who goes after peoples families.
Ask him. He’s such a coward he refuses to even defend himself

Iamapony said:

Well, now we are opening a can of worms. Be careful there, pal. Because I have NO IDEA about "Mexican Monkey" derogatory remarks. However, I do know about "Donkey humpers", because they do exist in Tijuana and elsewhere. And of course, I know about Chinese fire drills, having done many, many of them as a young lad in the middle of the automobile epicenter, Southern California. I still have no idea why the Chinese get credit for this fun thing. What about the Scottish, damn it?

The irony of Johnny bitching about someone starting a flame war would have me in hysterics, if I had another scotch or four. Until then I will just roll my eyes. See?

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Easy to say that when your pal Kancer and friends aren’t using your personal information to threaten your family

Iamapony said:

If you remove all the vitriolic nonsense from these threads, there would be like 178 posts - total.

Since I am not only a linguistic genius, but a internet maven, I have found the confusion over this term. Some people just don't like this stuff and find it offending to eat, or even talk about.

I don't know how racist Kraft is. I suppose it depends on your level of craziness, whether this is racist food or not. Mexican Monkey Bread

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You may find it easy to dismiss a blatant racial slur casually thrown about as Kesh has done, I really do wonder if you would be so nonchalant if it had been a more popular or familiar slur to your knowledge (assuming good faith here). I’m betting you wouldn’t casually use the term “jungle monkey” in some parts of SoCal (where I think we are both from). To be clear, "jungle monkey' is a racial slur to refer to Black people, which of course you know. Though more interesting to me, I find it fascinating that you casually dismissed the 'merit' of the "vitriolic nonsense" as if there is no creditable side in the matter; to use a familiar example for you, perhaps you'd like to characterize it as a "feud" between Kesh and [insert flame war target here], isn't that how we arrived at a point where both Marc and Rossi are to blame in equal measure? Both parties just engaged in “vitriolic nonsense”, right Pony?

I want you to pause here and think a bit on my following point please: It should not be a stretch to you then that Kesh flippantly used a racial slur ‘stealthy’, ‘underhanded’ in a crafty way to ‘avoid obvious detection’ to provoke, after all we are in a “feud” and what do people do in “feuds”? They provoke. But, fair game right, you’ve dismissed it. No, you’ve gone even further, though perhaps unwittingly, and justified it, after all, there is a recipes for something called “Mexican monkey bread”, right? As if this has anything to do with the way the term “Mexican Monkey” is used as a pejorative term to invoke a bad thing. You’ve become part of the discussion and decidedly on the side justifying a casual use of a racial slur Pony. I say unwittingly because I don’t think your intention is to casually dismiss offensive words, but I would caution you to be more cognizant of terms that actually do have special meaning, especially in the context that it has been point out to you here regarding Kesh.

I’d also like to point out Pony, that many of these terms have an element of concealment, a code, underhanded and cowardly, as I described above. I’m sure you are familiar with “jungle monkey” and "wet back" and many other terms, though because you perhaps didn't make the connection between "jungle monkey" and "Mexican monkey" you've dismissed it out of hand. "Jungle monkey" almost sounds cute, but say it in a context where those offended get your meaning, and you’ve got trouble coming. Here is another element you might not have thought about buddy. There is racism even amongst people of the same race or national origin. I’m familiar with the derogatory term “Mexican Monkey” because I’m dark skinned, an American (I should like to point out) of Mexican ancestry, and often considered of lower class to more “fair” skinned Mexicans who in my experience use this pejorative term far more readily (amongst others used for ‘dark skinned Mexicans by light skinned Mexicans). The message being, there is a ‘better’ and ‘inferior’ class of Mexican. If ever you want to see in stark relief what I’m describing to you, tune in to a typical Mexican 'telenovelas' (soap operas). Its clear who the better people and inferior people are from the cast.

Pony, it may not be readily obvious to you, but its no coincidence Kesh used a picture of a ‘monkey’ to mock the fact he is being called out by me. You and others have obviously not detected the meaning, and you could be pardoned for it frankly, it is a rather unfamiliar term to the more popular ones, like "wet-back". I remember his Mexican Monkey quip, and another reference to my ancestry he used during a previous flame war (which JPS and JKD called out on at the time). Honestly, I don’t think its best for me to be the voice to call out Kesh in such particular matters, because it would be ‘dismissed’ as just another point in the “feud”, kinda like what you’ve done actually. Thankfully it hasn’t gone undetected by others, and I’m sincerely grateful they chimed in when they did. I've reflected on Kesh and I'm convinced he has turned into something unexplainable, but you are free to examine all our exchanges as they have been written here throughout the years, its unfortunate, but also disturbing. So I no longer doubt what he is capable of saying in his fits of rage or lack of self-awareness. Oh, of course Kesh will deny it, have you ever seen anybody admit to such an underhanded thing when exposed? There is a reason needling terms are said tacitly and vague, so plausible deniability can be affective, hell you’ve dismissed it, so it works!

I hope it is clear to you Pony, now that I’ve taken the time to provide you with some insight. Fact is, some of these terms have long histories, as does Kesh have history with me (at one time i wouldn't have believe it in this context, but i've come to know a different Kesh now, one that has been revealed on this forum) and in the present, these terms must seem like distant and inoffensive, easy for us to dismiss, unless of course you feel it. I recently came across this interesting article, which I think is apropos, illustrating what I’m getting at here. I don’t think, at least I don’t know if “Mexican monkey bread” ever had any pejorative connotation, but I don’t think they’d be calling it “...... bread” (at least not in the US, maybe Canada) would you? Certainly, you wouldn’t post a link to point out its not such derogatory term since there is something edible named after it.

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