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Lorenzo feels he's out of contention

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (odessa @ Jun 4 2008, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I know most here log on to motogp.com and probably know about this already but I was wondering whats yer take on this story

I think its just a tactic to make Rossi and the others feel safe in themselves


If he truly believes that he's out of contention I say chin up Jorge its far from over

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2008/Lorenzo...e+could+be+gone
he's is still in with a chance and he knows it. he also knows the one man he didnt want on form is on form and ahead in the points table. lorenzo is killing some of the press hype to take the pressure off himself i reckon.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 4 2008, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>he's is still in with a chance and he knows it. he also knows the one man he didnt want on form is on form and ahead in the points table. lorenzo is killing some of the press hype to take the pressure off himself i reckon.


+1

i agree thats a good point he wants to knuckle down without to much fuss, i have a feeling tho he obviously wants to win the championship but i think atm his goal is to get more points and be above pedro in the table.
 
well, it could probably be true.

rossi, pedders, and stoney are in very good forms and unless these three guys also make a mistake on their own like he did, the championship MAY be out of his hands already.

but we still have a long way to go and all he can do now is focus on gaining points after points and worry about the championship later.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Jun 5 2008, 01:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>biaggai II


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Good one but I think Lorenzo has already given us better racing and showed us more skill and talent so far this season compared to... How many years was Max in Gp's and 500's 7 or 8? and won about 15 races in that peroid. No mean feat but I'm thinking Lorenzo will make bits of that record

Most if not all the moves he made had me on the edge of my seat, points wize the last 4 races have turned fubar for the guy but he displayed a great quality both on and off track. Ok so he might have over did it a bit with the crutches but its easy to laugh sitting where we are
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As far as entertainment goes Lorenzo's been the best, even though Rossi has won more and showed such control at the last 3 races, I keep thinking what if Lorenzo had been up there, he did an unbelievable job to get a win, some podiums and collect points in all but the last race and messed up his legs while doing it giving us spectacular crash's and very hairy moments too. If I remember correctly, its not been since the first race that Rossi and Lorenzo have gone head to head and that was just a few corners
 
i saw this and was a little disappointed by it. lorenzo still has plenty of opportunities to win races and climb the ranks. he is having one of the most impressive debuts i have ever seen and i expected him to have a bit more of a fighting spirit through all of this, especially since the season is barely 1/3 of the way through. it could be a mind game, or a way of taking some of the spotlight off of him. on the other hand maybe he really thinks it's lost... either way the dude needs to put his head down because in my mind he is still a strong contender for the championship
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (odessa @ Jun 5 2008, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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Good one but I think Lorenzo has already given us better racing and showed us more skill and talent so far this season compared to... How many years was Max in Gp's and 500's 7 or 8? and won about 15 races in that peroid. No mean feat but I'm thinking Lorenzo will make bits of that record

Most if not all the moves he made had me on the edge of my seat, points wize the last 4 races have turned fubar for the guy but he displayed a great quality both on and off track. Ok so he might have over did it a bit with the crutches but its easy to laugh sitting where we are
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As far as entertainment goes Lorenzo's been the best, even though Rossi has won more and showed such control at the last 3 races, I keep thinking what if Lorenzo had been up there, he did an unbelievable job to get a win, some podiums and collect points in all but the last race and messed up his legs while doing it giving us spectacular crash's and very hairy moments too. If I remember correctly, its not been since the first race that Rossi and Lorenzo have gone head to head and that was just a few corners
i pretty sure biaggi also have a remarkable start too. but every year there was lost opportunities. i think horhey will be there or there abouts every year, but horhey fans will always be dissapointed. bookmark this post for 5 year on. we'll see
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Jun 5 2008, 04:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i pretty sure biaggi also have a remarkable start too. but every year there was lost opportunities. i think horhey will be there or there abouts every year, but horhey fans will always be dissapointed. bookmark this post for 5 year on. we'll see

I think Jorge will win the title right after Rossi retires, and the real Biaggi2 is actually Pedrosa.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MigsAngel @ Jun 5 2008, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think Jorge will win the title right after Rossi retires, and the real Biaggi2 is actually Pedrosa.

I tend to agree. Pedrosa behave very similar to Biaggi when in fight with others and he are easily intimidated by others. He has that invitable "I'm never going to win this" written all over him. A bit of a Gibbernau/Biaggi combination really.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jun 5 2008, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I tend to agree. Pedrosa behave very similar to Biaggi when in fight with others and he are easily intimidated by others. He has that invitable "I'm never going to win this" written all over him. A bit of a Gibbernau/Biaggi combination really.


I like to think of the Biaggi/Pedrosa syndrome as 'All Small Class, and No Top Class' ability.

Year on Year you will see Pedrosa just more and more frustrated with not winning...I even Dovi will win it before Dani.
 
I don't know, I think Pedrosa will eventually win the title. He dominated the 125cc and 250cc championships, and won them all fairly easily. If I remember rightly, all Biaggi's were pretty well fought and he only just grabbed them. Gibernau never was a low class rider and literally jumped right into the spotlight for a few years, then back out. I think Pedrosa is better than them both, and way more consistent. His year will come imo.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Checa_7 @ Jun 5 2008, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't know, I think Pedrosa will eventually win the title. He dominated the 125cc and 250cc championships, and won them all fairly easily. If I remember rightly, all Biaggi's were pretty well fought and he only just grabbed them. Gibernau never was a low class rider and literally jumped right into the spotlight for a few years, then back out. I think Pedrosa is better than them both, and way more consistent. His year will come imo.

Pedrosa is definitely not better than Biaggi or Gibby in regards to talent; however, he is far more consistent.

If you look at what Pedro is doing now, it is exactly the same thing Nicky did in 2006. The bike isn't championship winning material, but he gets it as good as he can, then he rides it into a podium position. He rarely challenges for a win unless he's got the best setup from the get go. He collects valuable points from the misfortunes of others.

I can't imagine Pedrosa will win this year without help, but unluckily for him, Rossi doesn't seem to be giving any hand-outs this season.

On topic: Lorenzo ain't playing head games. He's binned himself out of contention and he's already telling his fans not to get their hopes up, but I do expect him to charge the windmill a few more times before season's end.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jun 5 2008, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Pedrosa is definitely not better than Biaggi or Gibby in regards to talent; however, he is far more consistent.
yeah, its called traction control.
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I don't get this guy. At the beginning of the season this guy was all about just gaining experience blah blah. I called his ... on it and said that he had nothing less than the championship as his goal. Then after the first few races he said, "I can't believe this, I never thought I would have a start like this." More blah blah blah. Now he is saying that the championship is out of reach. Either he is more depressed about his Mugello misfortunes than he is letting on or its just more bullshite spewing from the horses mouth. Personally I think that he knows damn well that he still has a shot, he's just giving all his fans and the rest of us the ride of our life. I expect him to come back in a strong way and challenge for more wins this season, barring injury doesn't set him back again. Believe me the title is still on his mind despite allthe ........ he wants to claim.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Jun 5 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't get this guy. At the beginning of the season this guy was all about just gaining experience blah blah. I called his ... on it and said that he had nothing less than the championship as his goal. Then after the first few races he said, "I can't believe this, I never thought I would have a start like this." More blah blah blah. Now he is saying that the championship is out of reach. Either he is more depressed about his Mugello misfortunes than he is letting on or its just more bullshite spewing from the horses mouth. Personally I think that he knows damn well that he still has a shot, he's just giving all his fans and the rest of us the ride of our life. I expect him to come back in a strong way and challenge for more wins this season, barring injury doesn't set him back again. Believe me the title is still on his mind despite allthe ........ he wants to claim.
how much of what he says are is own personal thoughts and how much is pr his team/sponsors have told him to say.
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I really can not see how pINkY can say Jorge is going to run the same path a Max. To bad crows have small peckers, it wont fill pINky's mouth.
 
Rossi seems to average about 2 DNF's a year. That's a big chunk of points.

Rossi DNF's:

2002 - 1
2003 - 0
2004 - 2
2005 - 1
2006 - 3
2007 - 3

If this holds true, we are looking at a possible close fight come the end of the season (I hope). And I agree with mylexicon, Peders could have a Hayden 2006 season, just stay at the top and finish strongly each race and win the championship.

On topic: Jorge is just down about his DNF at Mugello, bottom line is he is certainly a contender for the overall.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Jun 5 2008, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi seems to average about 2 DNF's a year. That's a big chunk of points.

Rossi DNF's:

2002 - 1
2003 - 0
2004 - 2
2005 - 1
2006 - 3
2007 - 3

If this holds true, we are looking at a possible close fight come the end of the season (I hope). And I agree with mylexicon, Peders could have a Hayden 2006 season, just stay at the top and finish strongly each race and win the championship.

On topic: Jorge is just down about his DNF at Mugello, bottom line is he is certainly a contender for the overall.
thats why this sport is so worth watching, anything can happen in a season. nothing is writen in stone
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Jun 5 2008, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi seems to average about 2 DNF's a year. That's a big chunk of points.

Rossi DNF's:

2002 - 1
2003 - 0
2004 - 2
2005 - 1
2006 - 3
2007 - 3

Depends how you look at it.

02 - 1 - The bike chunked it's tyre at Brno, so he had to retire/
03 - case closed
04 - Fair enough, DNF's at Rio and Qatar.
05 - Torpedo'd Marco at Motegi.
06 - Valencia was his own doing. Lemans, Laguna and China were out of his control.
07 - Germany was his fault, while Misano and Valencia were bike failures.
08 - Ongoing.
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