Le - Mans Race Thread

[Mr Squiggle]

Bla bla bla. You have not even tried to justify or debate your earlier comments. You came out and said







Then tried to make out pedro did good-by Nicky by then saying.







So you think that was dani doing his bit or HRC orders ? Remember the line you puig took on the subject and Dani not saying a word? In fact all he did was hide behind his mentor !

Didn't Puig actually somehow manage to assign blame to Nicky for that crash? Now that is some fancy spin-doctoring.

 

[chopperman]

Didn't Puig actually somehow manage to assign blame to Nicky for that crash? Now that is some fancy spin-doctoring.

Yeah he did. Although it wasn't Nicky fault i think it is fair to say he invited a pass by running slightly wide when a faster rider is shadowing you . This this poster im debating claims Dani didn't want to pass. Truth is Dani saw a gap / opportunity and took it, trouble was to take such an opportunity ment running in way to hot just like the Rossi stoner pass. If it works you're a god, if it fails you're a dumb ...

 

[povol]

Yeah he did. Although it wasn't Nicky fault i think it is fair to say he invited a pass by running slightly wide when a faster rider is shadowing you . This this poster im debating claims Dani didn't want to pass. Truth is Dani saw a gap / opportunity and took it, trouble was to take such an opportunity ment running in way to hot just like the Rossi stoner pass. If it works you're a god, if it fails you're a dumb ...

what the hell, i will bite, its pretty dead around here

I think its fair to say that in 2006, and the Estoril race, Dani was not a faster rider. Nicky was faster in FP1, FP2,QP, and had turned faster laps in the race prior to the incident. Dani had the red mist thing going after what he perceived as a harsh move by Hayden. If he had been any kind of teammate, Hayden would not have had to stuff him to get past, nor should he have had to watch his back after he got through. Just another example of ego overload.

 

[chopperman]

what the hell, i will bite, its pretty dead around here

I think its fair to say that in 2006, and the Estoril race, Dani was not a faster rider. Nicky was faster in FP1, FP2,QP, and had turned faster laps in the race prior to the incident. Dani had the red mist thing going after what he perceived as a harsh move by Hayden. If he had been any kind of teammate, Hayden would not have had to stuff him to get past, nor should he have had to watch his back after he got through. Just another example of ego overload.

Remember we had quali tyres back then, Nicky may have been faster in fp and quali but IIRC dani had a better pace on race tyres.

Nicky was also very prone to running wide in races, something JB commented on !

 

[povol]

Remember we had quali tyres back then, Nicky may have been faster in fp and quali but IIRC dani had a better pace on race tyres.

Nicky was also very prone to running wide in races, something JB commented on !

Nicky was faster on race tires, right up to the time he got taken out, and im pretty sure FP was not run on qualifiers. Puig tried to justify Dani's actions by saying he wasnt mathematically eliminated and was racing for a title and that Nicky had made a mistake and braked to early, causing Dani to run into him

 

[chopperman]

Nicky was faster on race tires, right up to the time he got taken out, and im pretty sure FP was not run on qualifiers. Puig tried to justify Dani's actions by saying he wasnt mathematically eliminated and was racing for a title and that Nicky had made a mistake and braked to early, causing Dani to run into him

Yeah, sooo much faster that dani was there to attemp a pass

 

[Talpa]

Clutching at straws again I see

This topic is of no concern to you as any debate about sanity certainly wouldn't be referencing "Talpa the village ....." as an example of rational or sane thinking. Stoner is in your head buddy and he is driving you mad....and will continue to do so

Like most fair and reasonable people at the time of the Portugal 2006 incident I was very angry for the stupid mistake by Dani that could have cost Nicky a world title, just as I am angry about Dani suffering another broken collarbone as a result of a similar bonehead move, this time by Simoncelli in the last race at Le Mans....Most people, however, have learned to let go of their anger over the Hayden/Pedro crash....something you should try sometime.



And speaking of insults you continue to insult the intelligence of everyone on this forum and get away with it in every single one of your lurid posts. I present another prime example of Talpas perpetual hypocrisy

Settle down now puppet, its just a forum.......

Once again your outstanding intellect has come to the fore, do you realize that you are posting insults then insulting others about posting insults and then claiming hypocrisy?? I know its hard now, but stick with me champ.....Actually many members here have quite an opinion on that incident, and 2006 in general, and you are the one who alluded to their sanity-or lack there of, not me....and for your information I have never commented in anger about the 2006 Hayden/Pedro incident, I have no particular view other than it was a racing incident.......at least get your facts right before you insult---with ........

You are obviously obsessed with me no doubt due to my views on your hero who you worship at any given instance, obviously you can't handle it too well when anyone disagrees with you or discredits your idol-well your in the wrong place champ......'news flash!'.....no one cares........my POV is simple and shared by many--Stoner is an amazing rider, and a complete (and now reasonably dangerous) ..... You will only ever find complete agreement in like-minds, this is probably the only place where you have found more than one of these......



However, in this particular instance you didn't get my point and it was in complete jest, but hey- I guess I'm asking too much......

So maybe you should check fact before hurling insults, or continue to look stoopid, its up to you......





schools out

 

[notabikerther4useless]

Settle down now puppet, its just a forum.......

Insults are usually most effective when they include the word you actually meant to use, not just one that's similar. Otherwise you end up looking a bit stupid.

 

[notabikerther4useless]

Anyway, does anyone want to own up to/remember having a bet with me about who would win first between Stoner and Rossi? I can't remember who but it was a member from Sydney. I think.

 

[#22]

Is this thread STILL going? Jaysus!

 

[Pigeon]

Is this thread STILL going? Jaysus!

yes lol













Randy Mamola talks Simoncelli, Pedrosa clash



"If it was Valentino Rossi that turned in and somebody hit him, I don't think they would have done the same thing" – Randy Mamola.



13-time 500cc grand prix winner, Randy Mamola, believes Marco Simoncelli's reputation was the main reason for the Italian being penalised for the collision with Dani Pedrosa during the French MotoGP at Le Mans.



The two factory Honda riders, Simoncelli for Gresini and Pedrosa for Repsol, tangled as they fought over second place with ten of the 28 laps remaining.



Simoncelli, who had caught Pedrosa, dived ahead on the brakes, only for the Spaniard to accelerate back past along the following straight.



As the pair headed towards the Esses, Pedrosa maintained his tighter inside line as they hit the brakes, while Simoncelli - on the (outside) racing line - moved marginally ahead.



The collision occurred when Simoncelli turned across Pedrosa, who clipped the back wheel of the Italian and fell.



Estoril winner Pedrosa suffered a broken collarbone, leaving his title hopes in tatters. Simoncelli didn't fall, but was denied a debut MotoGP rostrum when he was given a ride-through penalty by Race Direction.



Simoncelli insists he gave Pedrosa room and that the penalty was more a result of the previous complaints made about his riding than the move itself.



A Crash.net poll, in which almost 6,000 individual votes were cast, saw 67% of fans declare that Simoncelli's penalty had been unfair and that it had simply been a racing incident.



Mamola certainly didn't absolve Simoncelli of blame, but does believe that the decision to penalise the Gresini rider was not based purely on the incident itself.



"The machines that we're racing on are not toys and if you saw the Stoner/Rossi battle at Laguna Seca 2008, or Lorenzo and Rossi in Japan last year, you went 'wow, that is the fine line of hard racing'," Mamola, a regular in the MotoGP paddock, told Crash.net.



"There are some people who say they don't agree with that kind of racing and others that say we want more of it.



"What happened with Simoncelli and Pedrosa - there are so many people pointing at Simoncelli, saying that he is a hard rider and doesn't give you room. Unfortunately that reputation bit him.



"If it was Valentino [Rossi] that turned in and somebody hit him, I don't think they [Race Direction] would have done the same thing."



Mamola, like fellow 13-time race winners' Max Biaggi and Dani Pedrosa, is the most successful rider not to win the 500cc/MotoGP title. The American retired from grand prix racing in 1992.







IT'S Racing if you dont want to do that

fook off to the beach or somewhere else simple



its Boring ffs for the doubters

 

[povol]

Anyway, does anyone want to own up to/remember having a bet with me about who would win first between Stoner and Rossi? I can't remember who but it was a member from Sydney. I think.

What kind of moron would have taken that bet. Must have been before winter testing, or someone who is so infatuated with Rossi, was sure he could jump on a winning bike, and duplicate Stoners success.

 

[Mr Squiggle]

What kind of moron would have taken that bet.

One name springs to mind

 

[Tom]

With all the Simoncelli stuff going round, i forgot to comment on the actual race!!!



Blinding ride by Stoner, that was what most of us expected to see when he signed for HRC. If he bags a few more of them in this busy summer run the others will find it hard to come back. Lorenzo may say he was happy with his result, but i expect him to be better. Perhaps my expectations are too high but i feel he should be beating Dovi and Rossi at the moment in normal circumstanes. More promising stuff from Cal despite a fall.