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Ha just been reading a forum am part of and their blaming pedrosa
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one of them even says dani wouldnt have made the corner.



I do klnow pedders isnt well liked tho!!
 
I wonder if Sics bike will all of a sudden start running a bit slower than the Repsol bikes....I reckon the head honchos at HRC will be worried a little about a Sic/Stoner incident after this weekends antics.
 
Again ......... Lorenzo has an injured hand ........ he did it in warm up ........ had he not had an injured hand I would think he would have been up there with Stoner. I don't get these desperate attempts to compare Rossi with Lorenzo here? whats it all about?



Spot the damage control
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Stoner must know that what he did was wrong. De Puniet has already taken responsibility for his incident. Lorenzo and Dovi have smoked the peace pipe. So now there's just one joker out there thinking he has actually done nothing wrong, and that's Marco Simoncelli:



http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91427



The guy's in denial.
 
Dani Pedrosa said it was "very unfair" that Marco Simoncelli only received a ride-through penalty for the Le Mans incident that left the Spaniard with a broken collarbone.



Pedrosa and Simoncelli were fighting over second place when they made contact with 10 laps to go in France, with Pedrosa falling after Simoncelli pulled across in front of him while trying to complete an outside-line pass.



Simoncelli came back from seventh to fifth after the penalty he was given for the clash, while Pedrosa will find out tomorrow whether he requires surgery for his latest injury.



"I was having a good race, the goal was to ensure another podium and I had it in my grasp. But it counts for nothing," said Pedrosa.



"Simoncelli overtook me, I passed him back and I had the better line, he just came into me releasing the brakes and I could do nothing.



"I leave here with a broken collarbone and he with a ride-through penalty, good for him! Yet again I come out worse off."



Pedrosa added that the situation was particularly frustrating because he has been grappling with the after-effects of a previous collarbone injury on the other side of his body since a crash at Motegi last October.



"We only just recovered from the nightmare of the last operation and now I'm hurt again," he said. "It is very unfair, I don't deserve it."
 
honda have created the ultimate 800 motogp machine thats crystal clear now, cant wait to see what they for 2012...



im not getting into the marco debate lol....
 
Let off the brakes? Highly unlikely that Dani would be doing anything other than accelerating

at that stage of the turn. Simoncelli had already lost the braking contest.

What race were you watching? How could marco have lost the "braking contest" when he ended up in front? Dan let off the brakes and stood the bike up mid corner cliping the rear of marco. Had dani have stayed on his line there might not have been a crash. Now the question is, why did dani stand his bike up. These are the answers needed BEFORE dishing out punishments.
 
Went to wiki to check and Nakano had the Kawasaki ride after that... But those weren't very competitive factory rides anyway, were they?

Embarrassed I forgot about Nakano at Kawasaki from 2004-2006.



wow, yeah because randy de crashalot didnt do anything wrong by crawling along the middle of the track eating his croissant and actually looked over his left shoulder to see casey coming at pace so he brilliantly thinks (clearly the man is a superstar in the making, who else can manage to crash as often as he does) ah i,ll wander over onto the race line at a third of caseys pace and when he overtakes me he,ll tow me around and i will watch his lines..

casey should have taken him out right there. Darryl Beattie said in commentary

that from a racers point of view randy de crashalot did the wrong thing by coming across on casey and casey went to easy on him, he said he should also hit him when he,s got his helmet off ! it was dangerous of randy and thats that.

did it affect the race outcome, no.. shock horror randy crashed, AGAIN, and casey smoked em, again.

Cheers

Any level-headed, intelligent follower of the sport will tell you de Puniet made a mistake. He admitted it, himself. But any level-headed, intelligent follower of the sport will also tell you that Randy de Puniet is capable of supreme speed when given the proper equipment. He's never going to win a championship, but he nabbed two podiums in the 800 era. Not easy to do considering he did it on a Kawasaki and a private Honda. He's got pedigree and speed and speaking of him like he's some country bumpkin who just happened to luck into a ride in MotoGP speaks volumes of your ignorance with regards to this sport.



question for the people who can watch again : was there overtaking between rossi and dovi under yellows?

I was wondering about this. The replay looked as though there were yellow flags waving, but it was difficult to tell when they came out and another angle was never shown.



As far as the Pedrosa/Simoncelli incident, it's a bad deal for both riders, obviously worse for Pedrosa. The way I saw it, it was an ambitious attempt from Simoncelli. However, Simoncelli seemed to have the advantage at tip in. He shut the door and it didn't looks like he left much room for Pedrosa, which lends to the arguments of Lorenzo etc. To be honest, I think the slight bump in Pedrosa's braking in which the rear came up on him is what cost him. Had that not happened, I think he slows enough to stand it up and miss Sic. The fact is, neither were in a position to make the apex. Simoncelli ran wide and was on the outside. Pedrosa was braking at the same pace and was on a tight line. Neither were going to make that corner. It's just a shame that Pedrosa's braking was affected by a bump, I really think that's where the issue lies.



And to give Simoncelli a ride through? An absolute joke. Was it a hard move? For sure. Was it illegal? I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone outside Race Direction who would say the move was "illegal".
 
u fucken blind? you didnt see tire marks on Sic's leathers.... u try stay leaned over with your front tire rubbing against another rider... .......



Whoa, there tough guy! My first day posting here and already I've managed to raise the ire of the local man who's mouth doth runneth as a mule's less fragrant end!



Right back at ya, Pinky, ol' girl. That's a lovely shade you're wearing for an old bird such as yerself, but shouldn't be leaving it about where everyone can see it.



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I wonder if Sics bike will all of a sudden start running a bit slower than the Repsol bikes....I reckon the head honchos at HRC will be worried a little about a Sic/Stoner incident after this weekends antics.



From Julian Ryders Twiiter:



Leaving the track 30 mins ago saw Simoncelli, still in leathers, being marched to the HRC truck. Dani would have been points leader...
 
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Whoa, there tough guy! My first day posting here and already I've managed to raise the ire of the local man who's mouth doth runneth as a mule's less fragrant end!



Right back at ya, Pinky, ol' girl. That's a lovely shade you're wearing for an old bird such as yerself, but shouldn't be leaving it about where everyone can see it.



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Dont bear pinky no mind mate, just one of our village idiots. Got a thing for Hong kong ladyboys too but that's a different story
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From Julian Ryders Twiiter:



Leaving the track 30 mins ago saw Simoncelli, still in leathers, being marched to the HRC truck. Dani would have been points leader...



That's what I would have expected. I have no idea what Butler and his motley crew of fickle subjectivists are going to do; however, I expect Simoncelli's bike is going to get a lot slower. Maybe it won't even be factory anymore.
 
What race were you watching? How could marco have lost the "braking contest" when he ended up in front? Dan let off the brakes and stood the bike up mid corner cliping the rear of marco. Had dani have stayed on his line there might not have been a crash. Now the question is, why did dani stand his bike up. These are the answers needed BEFORE dishing out punishments.





A perfect example of Lazy-Boy-racer second guessing.





Watch this video and tell me what Peddles was supposed to do. From his POV, the furry fuckhead was squeezing him relentlessly, cutting across his path. You have exactly 0.3 seconds to decided the proper course of action.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXFVMfyNRp4
 
A perfect example of Lazy-Boy-racer second guessing.





Watch this video and tell me what Peddles was supposed to do. From his POV, the furry fuckhead was squeezing him relentlessly, cutting across his path. You have exactly 0.3 seconds to decided the proper course of action.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXFVMfyNRp4

Read the last sentance of my post gimp boy. Im not saying who is a fault, im saying Butler reacted without gaining all the info first. It may end up that he was right in blaming marco but he still (as usual) did a knee jerk reaction just like tamada,sete in motegi. The man just doesn't learn. He is quick to react when he should wait and other times does sweet fa when he should.

That youtube is the rear camera shot. Try and fing the front camera shot !
 
A perfect example of Lazy-Boy-racer second guessing.





Watch this video and tell me what Peddles was supposed to do. From his POV, the furry fuckhead was squeezing him relentlessly, cutting across his path. You have exactly 0.3 seconds to decided the proper course of action.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXFVMfyNRp4



Think that definatly shows pedders was gonna make the corner.
 
I don't know. I think you could (could) argue Pedrosa just needed to hold his line and Sic would have been clear of him. I think that video is inconclusive. We'd need to see one from the front. Despite what Pink Lips says, it's not clear there that Pedrosa's wheel hit Simoncelli's leathers as he claims. I think another angle is needed. Maybe the HRC guys have a camera angle we don't yet.
 
It really doesn't matter whether Pedrosa was going to make the corner or not. It was a left-right complex and Simoncelli thought it would be clever to go around the outside to gain the inside for the right flick. It was unprofessional and patently stupid to boot. I only wish Dani hadn't sat up b/c it appears that it may have worsened his injuries while putting the results in the hands of the race stewards.
 

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