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woody996 said:
Separate topic, Stoner shaking his fist at Aoyama now. Why doesn't someone just go and drop the prick? Is there anyone he hasn't abused?
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His spat at Aoyama was nothing compared to that of Elias at the Marshall's. And Aoyama was riding his CB250 instead of his race bike. Casey does have races and a championship to think of, I'd be pissed if that was me.



Stoner will paint his face green and take out his frustrations on the wild swine population back home. The other latte sippers in the pack might be worried about the arrow protruding from their forehead if they crossed him.



Of note for Casey's performance is the similarity in his performance on the hard and softer tyres he ran in the session. He had no real lack of pace on the harder tyre which bodes well for the race for him, he will be able to be strong at the start and bring it home on the harder tyre.



On One HD they up the laps from each session on the track and it would seem that he and Pedrosa have the most consistent pace. If Simoncelli can keep the wheels in contact with terra firma he may have a shot at a podium or even a win.



My potential father in law to be watched this with me and said "that boy needs a haircut".
 
I agree aoyama shouldn't be where he was. But why does that give the right to wave fists, the sign of uncontrolled anger by all the Maori people I know.

To your next point, stoner looks strong, ran very quickly on his hard tyres. Definitely the deserved favourite for the race.
 
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My potential father in law to be watched this with me and said "that boy needs a haircut".

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all the best for your future wife. I was given a concrete guarantee with mine. Once she hit the concrete. No returns.
 
woody996 said:
I thought he was dawdling on the racing line.
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Looked to me like Aoyama was doing his own fast lap, which of course was slower than Stoner's. Stoner is more than second faster than most of the riders, but if the guy can't control his temper when he's got that much of an advantage heading into the race, he's a little hopeless in that department.
 
Beef Supreme said:
Looked to me like Aoyama was doing his own fast lap, which of course was slower than Stoner's. Stoner is more than second faster than most of the riders, but if the guy can't control his temper when he's got that much of an advantage heading into

the race, he's a little hopeless in that department.
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I wasn't sure about whether Aoyama was on his own quick lap. I gave stoner the benefit of the doubt on that. Maybe I should review the lap timing because if Aoyama was doing his best to put in some laps, it is really something disgusting by someone whose ego is starting to rival lorenzo's.
 
woody996 said:
For the record, I also believe Rossi has ego.
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Your powers of perception are undeniable
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Why does it matter if Stoner gets frustrated about slow riders in his way. It doesnt seem to harm his concentration/lap speeds too much, its not like he's broken his leg trying to get away from them. And the riders being waved at will either thing yes fair enough that was my mistake, or if they were on a fast lap wont be too fussed at the end of the day. It doesn't harm anyone and it isn't like he goes under people and rides dangerously for some kind of revenge like the moto2 riders or Biaggi/Melandri.



Honda are looking good for tomorrow, i'll be surprised if Stoner doesn't win. Fuel might be an issue and that could help Lorenzo move up a couple, but i think the podium is the best he can hope for tomorrow. Cal did brilliantly, i can't wait to see him on a track he knows.
 
Andy Roo said:
Of note for Casey's performance is the similarity in his performance on the hard and softer tyres he ran in the session. He had no real lack of pace on the harder tyre which bodes well for the race for him, he will be able to be strong at the start and bring it home on the harder tyre.
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According to Bridgestone, Stoner is one of the few riders out there who prefers the medium tire over the new soft. From what I gather, the soft shouldn't have any issues getting home tomorrow, but if you can go just as fast or faster, as Stoner can, on a harder tire, you may as well run with it.



Beef Supreme said:
Looked to me like Aoyama was doing his own fast lap, which of course was slower than Stoner's. Stoner is more than second faster than most of the riders, but if the guy can't control his temper when he's got that much of an advantage heading into the race, he's a little hopeless in that department.
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Certainly possible, but the closing speed was pretty quick. You don't often see closing speeds like that in a race. It looked to me like Aoyama wasn't on it and was definitely on the line.
 
Austin said:
Certainly possible, but the closing speed was pretty quick. You don't often see closing speeds like that in a race. It looked to me like Aoyama wasn't on it and was definitely on the line.
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Yup. As I've mentioned earlier in the topic, I usually don't take Stoners fist-waving and head-shaking all too seriously (I find it quite amusing actually), but this time I thought it was rather justified. In the replay, it looked really scary, Stoner coming out of the last corner on full acceleration then having to almost slam on the brakes to avoid running into the back of Aoyama. Indeed a pretty big speed difference. Could have ended really ugly.
 
Austin said:
Certainly possible, but the closing speed was pretty quick. You don't often see closing speeds like that in a race. It looked to me like Aoyama wasn't on it and was definitely on the line.
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Looking at their fastest laps, Aoyama was losing around .4 to Stoner per sector -- that's a lot. If Stoner wasn't habitual in his fist-shaking, I'd also give him the benefit of the doubt.





Tom said:
Why does it matter if Stoner gets frustrated about slow riders in his way.
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It doesn't matter any more than this forum matters.
 
stiefel said:
In the replay, it looked really scary, Stoner coming out of the last corner on full acceleration then having to almost slam on the brakes to avoid running into the back of Aoyama. Indeed a pretty big speed difference. Could have ended really ugly.
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I didn't notice him touching the brakes at all, I figured Aoyama was either winding up for a lap or had just finished one.
 
Spanish commentators mentioned that Aoyama had already done the same thing to Stoner earlier in QP. Stoner spoke out about this issue last season, and named two riders as being repeat offenders. So it's obviously something which gets to him. As far as I'm concerned a bit of fist-waving is fine. Or are the fans the only ones who are allowed to get passionate during the race? Show me another sport where athletes can't vent... is MotoGP suddenly a gentlemen's sport, and if so who let Simoncelli in?



Lorenzo post-QP had the makings of an epic dummy-spit as we walked out the back of his garage. He's going to be fired up tomorrow.



I wouldn't be surprised to see Stoner running third for a while to see what Simoncelli and Pedrosa get up to amongst themselves. Dani is going to get past him at the beginning anyway, and would Casey really want to take it to Simoncelli on lap one this week? If any of the speculation about Honda's fuel consumption is to be believed we might see another cautious opening from Stoner. Then again, seeing how that worked out for him last time, maybe he'll just bugger off by himself.



Best of luck to Mr Crutchlow too. I'm glad he made it to the party.
 
corinthian said:
Show me another sport where athletes can't vent...
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Walter, this is not a First Amendment thing.



He's still blaming Simoncelli for having lost touch with the front two at Estoril, even though he kept losing time after the first lap. Outside of Stoner's fan base, this kind of thing doesn't go over well.
 
woody996 said:
I agree aoyama shouldn't be where he was. But why does that give the right to wave fists, the sign of uncontrolled anger by all the Maori people I know.

To your next point, stoner looks strong, ran very quickly on his hard tyres. Definitely the deserved favourite for the race.
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Stoner obviously has an issue with riders not at full speed being on the race line. It was not FP1 it was the last 10min of QUALIFYING. Do you suggest that Stoner should just bend over and take it? Stoner has complained about this behaviour for some time now. Unfortunately the race director is an incompetent ...... who thinks MotoGP is a contact sport and despite one of the top riders continuously complaining about slow riders on the line has done nothing about it. Stoner only just held pole position from Simoncelli so it is not as if he was in a position to be just resting on his laurels.



Seeing as though you don't think Stoner, ex world champion and most race wins in the 800 era, has no right to wave a fist at a rider that 1) jeopardise him doing his job, and 2) puts his life or physical health at risk, then can you explain to me and probably Stoner what his next action should be to fix this problem which clearly exists?
 

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