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Excellent gentz. Will post pics and stories when i get some rest. (which may not be for another dozen days.)



. Truent taking the bottle to town.

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Its alright , not necessary, looks absolutely boring as usual from you so maybe you should have a slide night or something,



Just moreof a boring waste of space if you post more.
 
Its alright , not necessary, looks absolutely boring as usual from you so maybe you should have a slide night or something,



Just moreof a boring waste of space if you post more.

Just crying out for attention. You really are a pathetic sad loser. Your trolling is so obvious and predictable. Yawn !!!
 
Its alright , not necessary, looks absolutely boring as usual from you so maybe you should have a slide night or something,



Just moreof a boring waste of space if you post more.



Its only boring to those that don't even go to a GP.

I for one look forward to the stories of drunken misadventure and racing of any member of the board.

And am looking forward to hearing them first hand at Shivers this weekend
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But of course you don't go so won't even have a clue what I'm talking about
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Its alright , not necessary, looks absolutely boring as usual from you so maybe you should have a slide night or something,



Just moreof a boring waste of space if you post more.

Or maybe a 'how to slide' night hosted by you.



You can hardly refer to Jum's posts as boring. I defy anyone to read the 2008 Laguna threads, 2010 and 2011 for example and conclude that they're boring. I've visited Jum in the U.S. twice and can testify that the guy genuinely maximises his existence to the fullest. He's possibly one of the most interesting and industrious people I have ever met. Further, he doesn't feel the need to continuously brag and ........ over the internet anonymously because his actions speak for themselves - unlike you.



You claim to hate everyone on here, but as the unflushable turd of powerslide continue to troll your incessant .....



You implore and exort members on here to get out and do things then criticise someone that travels thousands of miles annually to watch motorcycle racing -the sport we love, yet you yourself are scared off by 'the traffic' You are an expert on everything, you claim to have done everything, you belittle anyone that disagrees with you, you have zero in the way of integrity introspection and humilty, you are arrogant, supercilious, condescending and being so full of ........ are completely unable to substantiate or qualify any of your ludicrous claims. Whenever you are proved wrong you attack and deflect or backtrack and are wholly incapable of constructive reasoned debate - you are nothing more of a sad Walter Mitty augmented by an army of emoticons - your only real friends - inhabiting your deranged fantasy world of your own creation flimsily projected onto an internet forum.



And worst of all - by your own admission you bugger animals which is the only truthful thing you've ever said on here.
 
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How did I miss this?!? I spa my drink out at work looking at that! Couldnt make it this year Jums, but i'll be moving to Washington State in 2014 so am definately planning a trip to 'Guna then (If MGP still exists of course)



I'm a runt though, so can't handle much drink
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Who else thinks BM reminds them of Verbal Kint from "The Usual Suspects"? Full of .... he's done which he actually reads off paper articles on the walls....maybe Verbal Kunt is a better name for him?



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Or maybe a 'how to slide' night hosted by you.



You can hardly refer to Jum's posts as boring. I defy anyone to read the 2008 Laguna threads, 2010 and 2011 for example and conclude that they're boring. I've visited Jum in the U.S. twice and can testify that the guy genuinely maximises his existence to the fullest. He's possibly one of the most interesting and industrious people I have ever met. Further, he doesn't feel the need to continuously brag and ........ over the internet anonymously because his actions speak for themselves - unlike you.



You claim to hate everyone on here, but as the unflushable turd of powerslide continue to troll your incessant .....



You implore and exort members on here to get out and do things then criticise someone that travels thousands of miles annually to watch motorcycle racing -the sport we love, yet you yourself are scared off by 'the traffic' You are an expert on everything, you claim to have done everything, you belittle anyone that disagrees with you, you have zero in the way of integrity introspection and humilty, you are arrogant, supercilious, condescending and being so full of ........ are completely unable to substantiate or qualify any of your ludicrous claims. Whenever you are proved wrong you attack and deflect or backtrack and are wholly incapable of constructive reasoned debate - you are nothing more of a sad Walter Mitty augmented by an army of emoticons - your only real friends - inhabiting your deranged fantasy world of your own creation flimsily projected onto an internet forum.



And worst of all - by your own admission you bugger animals which is the only truthful thing you've ever said on here.



Excellent stuff.



Who else thinks BM reminds them of Verbal Kint from "The Usual Suspects"? Full of .... he's done which he actually reads off paper articles on the walls....maybe Verbal Kunt is a better name for him?



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I hearby name BarryBazMachineshitegob this.
 
Or maybe a 'how to slide' night hosted by you.



You can hardly refer to Jum's posts as boring ( thats because you are boring ). I defy anyone to read the 2008 Laguna threads, 2010 and 2011 for example and conclude that they're boring. I've visited Jum in the U.S. twice and can testify that the guy genuinely maximises his existence to the fullest ( .......!! the guy is pissed most of the time ....... thats living the life to you is it
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. He's possibly one of the most interesting and industrious people I have ever met ( I don't wantto meet him ..... he acts like a prick ) . Further, he doesn't feel the need to continuously brag ( thats because he has absolutely nothing that seemslike bragging and your life is so sad I guess .... not really my problem ) and ........ over the internet anonymously ( I'm not anon.!! I'm BarryMachine!!
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because his actions speak for themselves - unlike you.



You claim to hate everyone on here ( thats a lie ) , but as the unflushable turd of powerslide continue to troll your incessant .....



You implore and exort members on here to get out and do things then criticise someone that travels thousands of miles annually to watch motorcycle racing -the sport we love, yet you yourself are scared off by 'the traffic' You are an expert on everything ( thank you ) , you claim to have done everything ( I wish! though to you couch hounds I guess I seem to have done"everything" as you put it
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, you belittle anyone that disagrees with you ( same as you, thats what you do so thats what I do ) , you have zero in the way of integrity introspection and humilty, you are arrogant ( well whats wrong with that when dealing with you chaps ) , supercilious, condescending and being so full of ........ are completely unable to substantiate or qualify any of your ludicrous claims ( which ones? so are you saying you can prove I am having you on). Whenever you are proved wrong you attack and deflect or backtrack and are wholly incapable of constructive reasoned debate (example?) - you are nothing more of a sad Walter Mitty augmented by an army of emoticons
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That'll do for now
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1. If Arrab and Jum (and by attachement the other users on this forum) are boring...why do you come here you boring old fart?
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2. If Jum acts like a prick, you'd be the best one to judge
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3. Someone who isn't an arrogant tosser has nothing in life worth bragging about?? Quite the contrary, those who have it don't have to tell people they have it. In fact, people who do have it are intelligent enough to realise when they've won a race too.

4. Barrymachine.... I goggled it and found you! http://maxbarry.com/machineman/

5. You haven't done everything and you know it, i;ve done more than you in life when I last took a dump
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6. I dont disagree all the time, once or twice i've agreed with something sensible you've said and in return you still post insulting comments, ergo you're a prick
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7. Many things, like showing us how to back it in IN PERSON..though thinking about it I can't condone cruelty to animals :s
 
Whats the matter Barry, lost for words?



I can stop being childish, but you'll always be an .....
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You asked for an example of your inability to debate - OK. Let's try..



You claim that 'backing in' refers to shutting the throttle on a motorcycle and initiating a slide on the approach to a corner by body positioning alone and thus involves no use of either the downshift or the rear brake. Not only is this what is constituted by backing in as a racing technique as you describe it but you also maintain that this method as described by you is harnessed by racers accross the world. Am I correct in my summing up of your understanding of backing in a motorcycle?



Secondly I'm intrigued what is exactly meant by a couch hound?



Thank you
 
You asked for an example of your inability to debate - OK. Let's try..



You claim that 'backing in' refers to shutting the throttle on a motorcycle and initiating a slide on the approach to a corner by body positioning alone and thus involves no use of either the downshift or the rear brake. Not only is this what is constituted by backing in as a racing technique as you describe it but you also maintain that this method as described by you is harnessed by racers accross the world. Am I correct in my summing up of your understanding of backing in a motorcycle? No ..... you have quite a bit wrong here .... go back and read my original posts ..... I'm not retyping them,



Secondly I'm intrigued what is exactly meant by a couch hound? You



Thank you No worries
 
Whats the matter Barry, lost for words?



I can stop being childish, but you'll always be an .....
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I not an ..... though ..... so obviously your first bit incorrect also, as your reply would reinforce. .........
 
Ok, would you classify Michael Neeves or even yourself as a couch hound too? Without knowing fully what you mean I am unable to debate that. If you are willing to debate then explain what you mean and I will.



So in the interest of debating backing in it would you clarify it for us what aspects I got wrong - you don't seem to be averse to typing - which after all is necessary to debate. So in order to debate would you mind saving me that effort an briefly summing up what you believe is meant by backing in a motorcycle and I will glady reciprocate without asking you to look up any previous posts. If we both establish our contentions then we will be able to proceed with the discussion.
 
Ok, would you classify Michael Neeves ( Neeves is your typical journo who cannot ride, I've never met a journo who could ride ) or even yourself as a couch hound too ( I'm a couch hound for sure ..... though not as proficient at it as some it would seem
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? Without knowing fully what you mean I am unable to debate that. If you are willing to debate then explain what you mean and I will. So do you debate everything you are being taught? ........ debate ...... get real Arab
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So in the interest of debating backing in it would you clarify it for us what aspects I got wrong - you don't seem to be averse to retyping - which after all is necessary to debate ( its not a debate ...... I'm educating you .... its not debateable when you make such false statements as "backing in is initiated by rear brake and /or downshifting" ...... why do you think its a debate
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. So in order to debate would you mind saving me that effort an briefly summing up what you believe is meant by backing in a motorcycle and I will glady reciprocate without asking you to look up any previous posts. If we both establish our contentions then we will be able to proceed with the discussion. Read my initial posts way back when ...... I haven't changed the lesson content at all, and since you still are not able to understand my stance on the matter, try and single out the parts you are having difficulty with so that I may better teach you.



Its not debatable Arab. What is it with you and your mates ( Jumkie etc. ) ..... you think things are true only if your posse votes it "in"
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I suppose you guys tank yourselves up and "debate" what is really day and what is night
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You asked for an example of your inability to debate - OK. Let's try..



You claim that 'backing in' refers to shutting the throttle on a motorcycle and initiating a slide on the approach to a corner by body positioning alone and thus involves no use of either the downshift or the rear brake. Not only is this what is constituted by backing in as a racing technique as you describe it but you also maintain that this method as described by you is harnessed by racers accross the world. Am I correct in my summing up of your understanding of backing in a motorcycle?



Secondly I'm intrigued what is exactly meant by a couch hound?



Thank you



So if I were to debate this with Arrab, like an intelligent human being, he would give his arguments against being able to back it in using only throttle shutoff amd I would say my arguments for how it IS possible (which It isnt)...We could also both cite examples of where its been used such as video clips, pictures or asking professional motorcycle racers. You have none of this and just shout louder to enforce your 'point'...much like a conspiracy theorist with no evidence....






And you reply with nothing tangible



I not an ..... though ..... so obviously your first bit incorrect also, as your reply would reinforce. .........



You mean "I'm not an ..... though.....so obviously your first bit is incorrect also"



Its not debatable Arab. What is it with you and your mates ( Jumkie etc. ) ..... you think things are true only if your posse votes it "in"
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I suppose you guys tank yourselves up and "debate" what is really day and what is night
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Not at all, and your argument is typical of someone who has no real evidence to back up their claims...by shouting that you are being ganged up on and only the 'mates' of the person you are debating agree with them. Newsflash, maybe they agree with them because they are right and have facts and examples to prove their case? Thats how courts of law work buddy, on evidence...not tales or opinion.



So your 'backing it in' theory, is this on dirt or tarmac? Because to engage rear wheel slip with no application of brake or downshifting would primarily require a high engine compression to induce engine breaking to the rear wheels. This may be possibly on a dirt bike on a loose surface but not on a roadbike, and especially not a MGP bike with slipper clutches designed to do exactly the opposite.



Rebuttal? Didn't think so
 
Its not debatable Arab. What is it with you and your mates ( Jumkie etc. ) ..... you think things are true only if your posse votes it "in"
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I suppose you guys tank yourselves up and "debate" what is really day and what is night
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Dude what the ....? Did you catch rabies one of your last late night romps?



Quit trying to ruin a thread you have no business even posting in.
 
Agreed, Sorry Jum if I helped this thread derail.



We want pics...
 
Its not debatable Arab. What is it with you and your mates ( Jumkie etc. ) ..... you think things are true only if your posse votes it "in"
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I suppose you guys tank yourselves up and "debate" what is really day and what is night
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Nonsense - As far as I'm concerned this is purely a discussion between you and I irrespective of other members on here. I have provided you with a multitude of references and links from professional racers and riders in support of my argument - and even offered to debate this solely with you again on a separate thread. You even posted a link yourself which you obviously hadn't read properly (by a journalist) which unfortunately for you highlighted the role of the downshift in backing in a supermoto. I pointed that out at the time and as always whenever someone proves you wrong you deflect it or blindly ignore it.



Whatever your view is of the Michael Neeves clip it does, irrespective of what you think of his riding, explain what is conventionally meant by the term backing in which is what is in dispute here.



You asked for evidence regarding my belief that you are incapable of rational debate - Your last few posts are testament to precisely that. I wouldn't ask you to look up something I'd said - I'd simply reassert it and if you yourself had conviction behind what you are saying you would too.



Michael Neeves can't ride? Firstly, how do you qualify that? and secondly what gives you the right to? So according to Barry, bike journalists tend to be poor riders? That'll include the late John Robertson or Gus Scott then, or perhaps Nial McKenzie or Whitham.



You really aren't a well man.
 

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