Is the electronic era illegitimate

BarryMachine · May 11, 2012

povol said:
Road racing is a terrible spectator sport. You dont go to a track to enjoy the racing, you go for the smell and sound of racing, the trip with friends and everything that goes with that, such as food, drink, smoke and strippers. Then you go home and watch the race after you have recovered.In other words its an excuse to get away from the ball and chain.

Horses for courses again really. I can remember when a mate won his first mx title we celebrated by going to the beach the next weekend ........ something we saw as "getting away from the track" at the time. I can't remember any of my friends/aquaintences who looked at the racing as a social experience, even though they are now friends for life ........... its just that it was not why you were there, at all.

My distractions, from "ball and chaindom", are never as sedentary as spectating at a race ....... that just wouldn't even take the rust off the chain

I tend to go for a hard ride, start a difficult project or some such.

frizzle · May 11, 2012

povol said:
Road racing is a terrible spectator sport. You dont go to a track to enjoy the racing, you go for the smell and sound of racing, the trip with friends and everything that goes with that, such as food, drink, smoke and strippers. Then you go home and watch the race after you have recovered.In other words its an excuse to get away from the ball and chain.

Great description.

Mick D · May 11, 2012

BarryMachine said:
Interesting question.

Don't watch music on TV really ....... pretty much ever.

Really these days I only listen to music in an "involved" role. Funny really isn't it ...... much like I will go in the paddock but not in the stands. Never really thought about that before, nor attached it to my experience with racing.

Play music, these days, not often and only for fun when folk pick up an instrument.

I think I'm a lot older than you think ....?

Racing ( and now it appears music perhaps ) are not great spectators pursuits for me.

I don't spectate much at all really in any pursuit, it just means I have to do it. I think MGP is about the only thing I follow as a "spectator" these days ..... and thats on TV.

I ask you ......... if you were given the choice :

a years worth of money to follow the GP circuit as a spectator .....

or

a years worth of "funds" and "time" to race at say club level

what would you chose?

I'd take the club racing .....

To be honest ....... I think I prefer investing the "time and money" in hobby riding, as I do lately.

I doubt you're older than I think - 50-ish, same as me. I am not a musician but I do very much enjoy live music at small, intimate venues, no stadiums or televised shows for me.

If I had the choice I'd be rebuilding my RZ350 and on the track daily. But alas just a few track days and casual road trips for me.

I know where you're coming from. When I finished serious competitive ice hockey I couldn't stand watching games - live or on TV. When I was racing I would only be at the track to race or crew for friends. But over time that has changed. I now have Pov's attitude towards spectator sports - I don't go often but I do enjoy the "event".

BarryMachine · May 11, 2012

Mick D said:
I know where you're coming from. When I finished serious competitive ice hockey I couldn't stand watching games - live or on TV. When I was racing I would only be at the track to race or crew for friends. But over time that has changed. I now have Pov's attitude towards spectator sports - I don't go often but I do enjoy the "event".

And that is fine.

The real problem here is that there is a quorum of chaps here ( Jumkie, Bops, Ereskids etc.etc.etc. ) who really should be working for the Church of the Latter day Saints. They are trying to tarnish other folks levels/characteristics/intensities of interest in the sport when it differs from their own interest. Probably just a self justification/big upping themselves, thing I suspect

mt1960 · May 11, 2012

chopperman said:
True but there are many who do live in countrys that have races. take barrymachine for example. He once said he doesn't go to races because of the traffic

many proclaim to have been fans for 30-40 years but never been to a race. These people moan and groanabout Dorna and the way the races are going due to economic times ect but dont part with a penny for there sport.

There is a ...... football club down the road from me called Pompey. This club is on the verge of being liquidated and oh how the "so called" fans are crying and finger pointing. Fact is most didn't pay and go to see there club play and this is the result.

Very few Aussie fans here have ever gone to PI to see a race yet they would cry if it were dropped. Oh its too far they say. Bollocks , ive flown the other side of the world to see a race twice. I flew to spain to watch a race then flew straight back home.

Some talk, some do. There is always an excuse if you want one !

Fair enough, I see what you mean.

I once rode a Yam 350 from Perth to PI to see the return of GPs back in 89. To be fair, I did chuck the bike on the train for the run home... I rode from London to Brno, London to Valencia, London to Monza... but never managed Le Mans, much to my chagrin... probably won't make it now, unless I meet up with my son for an extended holiday. Still, I've got Sepang only an hour and a half away... PI about 8 hours and Qatar (why, oh why) if I could be arsed.

mh_kingcobra · May 11, 2012

Unfortunately I was unable to find and download the old races were there was no electronics but today I had the chance to watch the Ayrton Senna movie, I have to admit I just took a dump in my pants watching Senna on board and I nearly cried watching him dead over some stupid mechanical failures. I think that the guys that followed auto and motor sports from those days have the complete right to have this feeling, I mean the guys back then were pure skills and balls. Now I'm dying to find motor races from those years. By the way I like to watch new technologies too. It is a different world where the key to success is not just skill and talent and it is more complicated.

mt1960 · May 11, 2012

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digger · May 11, 2012

For me, I love the sights and sounds at the track. I'm not preaching to u baz, but u really are missing out on having never heard a modern gp bike in real life, even from a mechanical standpoint. I LOVE the sound of em misfiring down pitlane whilst the limiter is on, followed by the roar when they gas it back onto the straight. Gives me goosebumps every time

As for pissheads at the island, I always am a little bit surprised by the lack of drunk ......... there. At night in the campground there is a bit of stupid activity going on, but it isn't even close the the ........ that goes on at Bathurst and the gold coast 500. Us motorcyclists, it seems, are a bit better behaved that those Torana driving bogans

BarryMachine · May 11, 2012

digger said:
I LOVE the sound of em misfiring down pitlane whilst the limiter is on, followed by the roar when they gas it back onto the straight.

Do you want to re think that one !!?? Something doesn't gel there

digger · May 11, 2012

Not at all mate, braap braap braap, ...... NOIISSE!

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