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Is Lorenzo a worthy champion?

uhhh yes, in 2010 he set the record for most points won in a season, and in 2012 he almost matched that.


 


He beat rossi, stoner, pedro, etc.


 


This is dumb
 
I found a sandal


 


I think it's a sign


 


Lorenzo is a worthy champion


 


 


 


 


 


On a serious note getting more points than Stoner and Pedro and that rather swanky Honda is a "big deal" - if Stoner Pedro and Rossi as well as 'Nick 2006' were all on the Ducati I'm calling him piss weak. But the best bike was the Honda. He got in ahead of Pedro who has been gifted every championship since 2005. 


 


 


 


Can you do something about the cows on my roof? Anyhoo off to work! 
 
Andy Roo
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I found a sandal


 


I think it's a sign


 


Lorenzo is a worthy champion


 


 


 


 


 


On a serious note getting more points than Stoner and Pedro and that rather swanky Honda is a "big deal" - if Stoner Pedro and Rossi as well as 'Nick 2006' were all on the Ducati I'm calling him piss weak. But the best bike was the Honda. He got in ahead of Pedro who has been gifted every championship since 2005. 


 


 


 


Can you do something about the cows on my roof? Anyhoo off to work! 


Cast off the shoe. Follow the Gourd!
 
basspete
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Is Lorenzo a worthy champion?


 


Does a fish have a waterproof head?


 


And what the .... is the purpose of this bag o ..... thread I just wasted 10 minutes of my life reading!?


 


It was worth it for this one quote!


 


I laughed my sack off.


Cheers Pete ;)
 
1 LORENZO Jorge 350   1-1 1-2 4-2 4-1 2-1 4-1 3-NC 5-2 2-1 1-2 2-2 1-2 2-1 1-2 1-2 1-2 2-2 2-NC


First number is starting position, second number is finishing position. 6 wins, 10 seconds, 2 DNFs, one of which was not his own fault.


 


By this reasoning, there has never been a worthy champion. With the possible exception of Leslie Graham on the AJS Porcupine.
 
Kropotkin
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Oh, and I call fake noob.


Don't matter Krop, it's off-season. We need something to keep us busy, otherwise the wife's will start demanding we mend the roof or do the dishes.
 
stiefel
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Don't matter Krop, it's off-season. We need something to keep us busy, otherwise the wife's will start demanding we mend the roof or do the dishes.


In that case, I'm off to create me a mess of fake noobs....
 
Kropotkin
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In that case, I'm off to create me a mess of fake noobs....


This calls for a help: who can think of usernames for Krop's sock-puppets?


 


I give to floor to the fine gentlemen (and ladies) of PS....
 
stiefel
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This calls for a help: who can think of usernames for Krop's sock-puppets?


 


I give to floor to the fine gentlemen (and ladies) of PS....


 


OK Pork Tin (Radiohead's lost 3rd album....)
 
stiefel
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In 2011, Rossi was on an unrideable bike (for him anyway); Pedrose crashed out twice and missed 4 races; Lorenzo crashed out once and missed 2 races. 
Was Stoner a worthy champion? 

 

In 2009, Lorenzo crashed out 4 times; Pedrosa started the season injured from pre-season testing and crashed out twice, and Stoner was severly struggling and eventually missed 3 races due to sickness and crashed before reaching the starting line at the last race
Was Rossi a worthy champion? 

 

in 2008, Lorenzo crashed out 4 times and missed a race, Pedro was crashed in pre-season testing, crashed out twice and missed one race, Stoner crashed twice and suffered a loose onboard camera, with his Ducati having the tire it was build around removed
Was Rossi a worthy champion?

 

In 2007, both Pedrosa and Rossi crashed out 4 times. Stoner carefully cruised home in 6th place in Japan to take the title.
Was Stoner a worthy champion?

 

So, six years of 800cc saw no deserving champions. I could go back further. What to think of that one Austrialian guy that only started taking his titles after his strongest competitors left the sport? Or that Italian guy took most of his titles when the field was devoid of strong competitors on competitive machinery? Or that other Italian guy, the one that took all his titles on vastly superior machinery?


Stoner 2011 - its a different story, when things being equal in a race, he won most of the time, without the Lorenzo crashes, Stoner will still be champion because he had proven to be the fastest rider.


Stoner 2007 - he is still worthy for achieving on a Ducati, even though he has Bridgestone tire advantage.


Rossi 2008 - he is a worthy champion because he did beat Stoner in a very hard duel in plenty of races


Rossi 2009 - he is a worthy champion because he beat Lorenzo overall in a season, Lorenzo's crashes is caused by trying the impossible to beat Rossi. If Lorenzo did not crash and ride within limits, he would have finished second to Rossi in those races. Which means, Rossi is the worthy champion.



Compare all of the above to Lorenzo in 2012, getting his ... whipped in last 8 races in every single race. Thats hardly called a worthy champion.

Or in 2010, riding with no competition when his teammate sufferd a broken leg,...thats hardly a worthy champion.
 
thedeal
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I put this up earlier but it seems to have gone so here it is again,  Is Lorenzo a worthy champion?

this is a ....... stupid question because he won the title full stop and cuckoo you are a massive ...... because you think you know what it takes to win a world title.


I am amazed at your simple approach attitude.

Title = worthy champion.


Life is not so simple, you need to be analytical, without having an analytical approach, you will not see the real truth and picture.


Because you lacked some analytical ability, you did not realize Lorenzo is not a worthy champion.
 
Define "Worthy".


 


Caveat: You are not allowed to use the following phrases or words:


Warrior.


Warrior spirit


Win-or-bin.


Real Racer.


....better racer


Bravery.


Coward.
 
Kropotkin
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By this reasoning, there has never been a worthy champion. With the possible exception of Leslie Graham on the AJS Porcupine.


 


Was the '49 championship 'sport' or 'entertainment'?
 
cuckoo bird
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I am amazed at your simple approach attitude.

Title = worthy champion.


Life is not so simple, you need to be analytical, without having an analytical approach, you will not see the real truth and picture.


Because you lacked some analytical ability, you did not realize Lorenzo is not a worthy champion.


My analytical ability is fine as it worked you out strait away.
 
Kropotkin
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1 LORENZO Jorge 350   1-1 1-2 4-2 4-1 2-1 4-1 3-NC 5-2 2-1 1-2 2-2 1-2 2-1 1-2 1-2 1-2 2-2 2-NC

First number is starting position, second number is finishing position. 6 wins, 10 seconds, 2 DNFs, one of which was not his own fault.

 

By this reasoning, there has never been a worthy champion. With the possible exception of Leslie Graham on the AJS Porcupine.


You see, the thing about Lorenzo's title is that he did not face real competition, either his main competitors are injured or has not so capable bike.


For example, last 8 races of 2012, Pedrosa absolutely destroyed him nearly every race, Lorenzo does not have any answer to that at all.
 
Frizzle
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Yes he is a worthy double champion. Has raced against & beaten the best many times. Everyone needs some luck to win championships.

Everyone also needs a great bike.


Lorenzo definitely has the luck of a champion, bucket load full of luck.

But he does not have the speed or talent of a real champion.


They say that lightning do not strike twice in the same place. Most elderly people agree with this saying, I too tend to agree with this saying.


However, after Lorenzo won the title again in 2012 due to pure luck, I am not too sure about this saying "Lightning do not strike twice in the same place".... In the case of Lorenzo, lightning certainly strikes twice in the same place, once in 2010 and the second time in 2012....


I am wondering if there will be a third time....
 
Kropotkin
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OK Pork Tin (Radiohead's lost 3rd album....)


 


 


I think the two quotes for the thread are Pete,s fish with the waterproof head and OK Pork Tin. 


 


Truly hilarious comedy genius here sometimes. 


 


Laughed and laughed and laughed. 


 


He didn't get the cows off my roof but there is some off season entertainment in cuckoo troll. 
 

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