i translated that article using google. it was a pretty poor translation as they usually are but he said something to the effect that his leg and shoulder are still bothering him and that the track is bumpy and turns the opposite way of most tracks on the calendar, which isn't helping any.
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Norah Head
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Nick is giving all the Haydenettes a false sense of hope.
Oh well, go for it, Nick.
It's all we got!
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Protest? That would a funny way to protest. Yamaha now are delighted if he rides behind Spies, that's evident. One could say that the more he rides "poorly", the more they may let him test at Valencia
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dont take much for a PC Nerd to upload a different engine mapping does it
you left out......
About Rossi can not be said that the situation is relaxed in the box. Valentino tries not to blame his performance to the lack of new parts on his bike, such as the new Ohlins fork that is available..
"It hurts his leg and shoulder also bother me, especially when changing direction. The track then, is not what I like, indeed. It 'full of holes and then is designed to turn the other way than we do, then the curves have a radius a bit 'strange'.
But if there is a newer fork, would the difference?
"I'm not sure that the new range can make a difference, is only one component, but would still like it available."
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Gee you lot ....... Its nothing to do with Yamaha .......
Lets just look at "how it would look" ........
If Rossi goes to Ducati he has to at least match his performance on the Yam ....... if he is up near the front on the Yam ......... then he has to repeat that next year on the Duc ( or he could be the worst thing that ever happened to Duc)
Yamaha would not like it if Rossi is running down the list as it makes them look "so so" .......... especially if Rossi then gets on the Duc. and goes well "out of the box"
its Rossi ....... its how he plays the game
The scene is being set, the story written, the fans fed the "preface" ...........
for next year on the Duc.....
Lets just look at "how it would look" ........
If Rossi goes to Ducati he has to at least match his performance on the Yam ....... if he is up near the front on the Yam ......... then he has to repeat that next year on the Duc ( or he could be the worst thing that ever happened to Duc)
Yamaha would not like it if Rossi is running down the list as it makes them look "so so" .......... especially if Rossi then gets on the Duc. and goes well "out of the box"
its Rossi ....... its how he plays the game
The scene is being set, the story written, the fans fed the "preface" ...........
for next year on the Duc.....
One thing jerry burgess did say without being non-committal when he was a guest on australian TV a few races back was that getting the new forks used by yamaha this year right was not straightforward and took considerable work by the yamaha test riders.
Can I use your description ? Has more of a suburban slant than I think I would envisage, but its perfect
I just want to put it on the record that Bazza responded to a post of mine without abuse.
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Ohlins have supplied each manufacturer with only two sets of the new forks.
Yamaha have decided not to use them (yet) but they have these two forks in the truck.
Yamah's decision seems fair -- a rider would need two sets to equip both his bikes, which would leave the other one with none.
At Ducati Stoner is using them, but Hayden isn't.
At Suzuki Capirossi has got both forks, bautista none.
Yamaha have decided not to use them (yet) but they have these two forks in the truck.
Yamah's decision seems fair -- a rider would need two sets to equip both his bikes, which would leave the other one with none.
At Ducati Stoner is using them, but Hayden isn't.
At Suzuki Capirossi has got both forks, bautista none.
i left it out as Rossi said he didn't think the forks would make a difference. i only posted what he said was causing problems.
looks like the contracts of Rossi and Lorenzo are coming into play.....equal/full access to factory parts and electronics
I think this one is going to be Lorenzo's to lose. His current form is reminiscent of his 250 days, where he reaches such a level of confidence that even had he to take a slight tumble, he'd get back into balance. I am not too big a fan of his, but I cannot help accept that his level of confidence at the moment is far superior to anyone else's on the grid, his riding style far too text-bookish to the point of annoyance and on such a good bike there is nothing stoping him walk away with victory here as well. Only something way unconventional can beat the drone.
I can't quite comprehend the fork saga at Ducati or Yamaha.. but if it is going to affect performance, I feel for Rossi not getting them. And I highly doubt Rossi can stand a chance at a podium let alone win races for the rest of the season. This is very different from the time at 2003, when Rossi topped the points unreachable by the rest of the field. Season-long contract or not, I cannot see Yamaha investing too much on Rossi and that must hurt.. typical hypocritical business 'ethics' at play.
The biggest issue is the lack of competition in the races, Indy has yet to provide a decent battle due to circumstance, but unfortunately it's already looking like a forgone conclusion. And rossi's issues, especially injury wise, are looking to make history in a most unintentional way......
So you think Yam would not de-tune his bike to shame him but you do think Rossi would sandbag / ride poorly in protest
Map's. They can't touch the engines as they were sealed before rossi duc announcement but de tuning via the electronics and programing.
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No way -- the more I think of it, the more Yamaha tampering with Rossi's ECU is a ridiculous idea.
It is much more probable that Rossi's team is simply struggling to keep up with Lorenzo's -- and they are having a hard time especially after the injury and losing several races.
One senses a certain lack of clarity in Rossi's half of the garage right now -- in FP1 they changed the springs to his fork 7 minutes from the end and after that change Rossi clocked his fastest lap that took him from 9th position to 5th...
That leaves one wondering.
Yes, because in this age of electronics and launch control and gyroscopes, that the (assumedly) top team of MotoGP has to play frantically with springs in the last minutes of a session... well... it sounds more like sports production racing to me. That's a surprising lack of direction. OMG, I could lend them a bag of small coins I still keep, that we used to adjust preload in the old times when forks were not even adjustable
So much for the theory that JB is a kind of wizard. They are speaking geometries and balancing and fork springs in that garage right now, -- things that are mostly given for granted even in 125. And do not seem to be able to sort them out...!
It is much more probable that Rossi's team is simply struggling to keep up with Lorenzo's -- and they are having a hard time especially after the injury and losing several races.
One senses a certain lack of clarity in Rossi's half of the garage right now -- in FP1 they changed the springs to his fork 7 minutes from the end and after that change Rossi clocked his fastest lap that took him from 9th position to 5th...
Yes, because in this age of electronics and launch control and gyroscopes, that the (assumedly) top team of MotoGP has to play frantically with springs in the last minutes of a session... well... it sounds more like sports production racing to me. That's a surprising lack of direction. OMG, I could lend them a bag of small coins I still keep, that we used to adjust preload in the old times when forks were not even adjustable
So much for the theory that JB is a kind of wizard. They are speaking geometries and balancing and fork springs in that garage right now, -- things that are mostly given for granted even in 125. And do not seem to be able to sort them out...!
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So you think Yam would not de-tune his bike to shame him but you do think Rossi would sandbag / ride poorly in protestTalk about showing your hand KeshI know you dont like the guy but jeez !
Nah... I like him. I just don't lurve him. (Woody Allen expression) For that matter I don't "love" Stoner - but I think the world of his riding. I'm "fond" of Nicky but my ability to root for him is much degraded by several years of disappointment - tho I'm hoping like hell he gets to shine on big bikes in 2012. Spies is the rider who really knocks me out. Re: Rossi, see below.
