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Honda's RC213V Engine

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE VSG's FOR GODS SAKE!! WONT SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE VSG'S!!!!



Thats the spirit!!
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I believe Honda know about the VSG's anyway ....
 
IMHO Rossi doesn't ride a dog right now.He is riding a different bike to Yamaha.And can't handle it.





It isn't just Rossi - Stoner, Hayden, Capirossi, Melandri, Abraham, Barbera, Barros, Elias have all had issues with the handling of the Ducati. When you have that number of riders, many of them previous world Champions, complaining about the handling and development, you have to stop drinking the Ducati Love Kool-Ade and start to think that they may have a point.



You are right though, it isn't a dog - it is a race bike that is around a second away from the fast time. The problem is, at this level, it isn't allowing ANY rider to be competitive.



Some tracks the Yamaha has the edge, some tracks the Honda, but there are no tracks where the Ducati has the edge and there hasn't been since 2010, despite Rossi's lucky two podiums.



It isn't a dog, but it isn't competitive at this high level.



Bagging Rossi for his inability to come to grips with the Ducati is to ignore the fact that no-one else has been able to come to grips with the Ducati. He isn't alone.
 
It isn't just Rossi - Stoner, Hayden, Capirossi, Melandri, Abraham, Barbera, Barros, Elias have all had issues with the handling of the Ducati. When you have that number of riders, many of them previous world Champions, complaining about the handling and development, you have to stop drinking the Ducati Love Kool-Ade and start to think that they may have a point.



You are right though, it isn't a dog - it is a race bike that is around a second away from the fast time. The problem is, at this level, it isn't allowing ANY rider to be competitive.



Some tracks the Yamaha has the edge, some tracks the Honda, but there are no tracks where the Ducati has the edge and there hasn't been since 2010, despite Rossi's lucky two podiums.



It isn't a dog, but it isn't competitive at this high level.



Bagging Rossi for his inability to come to grips with the Ducati is to ignore the fact that no-one else has been able to come to grips with the Ducati. He isn't alone.

Except Stoner then.Another alien.

I know the Ducati has problems,especially since the singletire rule.So Rossi isn't alone,no.I'm just pointing out that he is beaten by riders that Casey Stoner,another alien,beat regularly wether it's Honda or Ducati by a bunch.

Rossi cannot be doing the best he can,but expect enineers to.
 
The main difference with Rossi is that the other riders weren't paid millions of dollars as a catch-all saviour to "fix the bike in 80 seconds"
 
The main difference with Rossi is that the other riders weren't paid millions of dollars as a catch-all saviour to "fix the bike in 80 seconds"



Neither was Rossi.



Quit using that quote out of context. You should know better than that.
 
Except Stoner then.Another alien.

I know the Ducati has problems,especially since the singletire rule.So Rossi isn't alone,no.I'm just pointing out that he is beaten by riders that Casey Stoner,another alien,beat regularly wether it's Honda or Ducati by a bunch.

Rossi cannot be doing the best he can,but expect enineers to.



6 years ago............a lifetime.



Spelling? Gramma? Not a skill set mastered yet?



I'm personally sick to death of reading the same old tired ........ sprouted by Rossi haters, Whats your point? You don't have one. Your argument is completely flawed and seated in bias and rubbish.



A suggestion, Why don't you start your own Rossi Bashing forum so we don't have to continually read this type of dribble clogging up discussions here, we've heard it all before, many, many times.
 
6 years ago............a lifetime.



Spelling? Gramma? Not a skill set mastered yet?



I'm personally sick to death of reading the same old tired ........ sprouted by Rossi haters, Whats your point? You don't have one. Your argument is completely flawed and seated in bias and rubbish.



A suggestion, Why don't you start your own Rossi Bashing forum so we don't have to continually read this type of dribble clogging up discussions here, we've heard it all before, many, many times.

First.English isn't my first language.So i'm sorry if i ruined your evening.Second.What's my point? Read.
 
6 years ago............a lifetime.



Spelling? Gramma? Not a skill set mastered yet?



I'm personally sick to death of reading the same old tired ........ sprouted by Rossi haters, Whats your point? You don't have one. Your argument is completely flawed and seated in bias and rubbish.



A suggestion, Why don't you start your own Rossi Bashing forum so we don't have to continually read this type of dribble clogging up discussions here, we've heard it all before, many, many times.



Haha classic. This is our MotoVR, either join our yellow club or .... off.



First.English isn't my first language.So i'm sorry if i ruined your evening.Second.What's my point? Read.



The post was fine Anders, maybe the truth hurts. Its good he resorted to a spell check reply, means he got nothin.
 
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.... this I'm not getting into a VR vs the world thing. It's supposed to be about Hondas donk.
 
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.... this I'm not getting into a VR vs the world thing. It's supposed to be about Hondas donk.

Dont sweat it. Hopefully next year the world will return to normal. Unless of course you support the likes of Hayden or Depuniet, who have climbed and climbed but just never quite make it onto that pedestal you think we all hate.



You see its not so much that one rider was on a pedestal, its more that the pedestal was only made to accommodate that one rider. The others keep getting pushed off. It causes the so called 'haters' which in reality are just frustrated fans that that need to lash out. You should be able to understand, since Prezi and Ducati have copped a fair lashing, deserved or not. I remain bitter about the likes of Gary McCoy getting .... rides even after winning GP's. Yet Ezy doesnt which makes me lash out and direct my hate towards his concept of MotoVRCRT.



If Honda are in fact making a 90 degree V four and advertising the fact to the likes of Kroppo then I would guess they did it just to amuse themselves and to say we can, rubbing another factory's face in it. Honda are also hated by many for percieved unfair advantages. As usual I blame the weak double dealing bald guy for everything.
 
The post was fine Anders, maybe the truth hurts. Its good he resorted to a spell check reply, means he got nothin.



And you do? How was the post fine? it has nothing to do with Honda's engine, it was riddled with spelling and grammar issues, and sort to promote the all boning 'Rossi sucks' agenda. I would imagine the latter is the part that always turns you on, silly of me to ask.......





The thread is about Honda's engine, and boners like you just love to bring into yet another Rossi slag off, which must make you feel better about yourself somehow. Just like a broken record. Start your own forum on bagging Rossi, with a serious of threads on best batting off techniques to Stoner slow mos, you'll enjoy your life much more, and we can talk about Motogp here.





Back to Honda's Engine, it would appear that the big 'H' has really upped the ante with the new bike, since Mugello it looks amazing, even Alvaro looks great this weekend, anyone got any word on if LCR and Gresini already have access to the new machine also?



If it is a right angle, then Is the 90 degree, with the right chassis and proper electronics the right config for the new rubber? Doesn't seem to be any chatter talk anymore, and Johnny Rea has taken to it very well. Maybe Ducati are actually one step away from the podium........if only they had brought the new bits earlier it could have been a much different season.
 
First.English isn't my first language.So i'm sorry if i ruined your evening.Second.What's my point? Read.



Your point is you have no point......simple. Unless you somehow know what its like to pilot a Desmosedici at anywhere near Motogp race pace, and this I seriously doubt.



And when was the last time a Ducati engineer went into a gravel trap at 200+kph like Rossi, Nicky, Karol and Hector have regularly for the past two years? How do you pass judgement on a Motogp riders commitment from the safety of your armchair? Especially one that has competed in, and won more than any other rider in the past 30 years?
 
And you do? How was the post fine? it has nothing to do with Honda's engine, it was riddled with spelling and grammar issues, and sort to promote the all boning 'Rossi sucks' agenda. I would imagine the latter is the part that always turns you on, silly of me to ask.......





The thread is about Honda's engine, and boners like you just love to bring into yet another Rossi slag off, which must make you feel better about yourself somehow. Just like a broken record. Start your own forum on bagging Rossi, with a serious of threads on best batting off techniques to Stoner slow mos, you'll enjoy your life much more, and we can talk about Motogp here.



I havent seen the forum rules which say these things are not allowed. He didnt post the much hated 'spoiler', there was no abuse, and his opinion was at least 50% correct, but 100% correct compared to yours (I take no responsibility for any plagiarism that may have occured).



Yes I can recognise in myself that I take a certain pleasure in posts regarding Rossi's struggles. I am in fact capable of self reflection, warts and all. No its not really a good thing. I dont feel the need to try and belittle you personally about any lack of jacking off opportunities you are experiencing recently. Sexual tension is a very serious thing. Try women as the cure, its what Ive been using since Stoners injury.



Back to Honda's Engine, it would appear that the big 'H' has really upped the ante with the new bike, since Mugello it looks amazing, even Alvaro looks great this weekend, anyone got any word on if LCR and Gresini already have access to the new machine also?



If it is a right angle, then Is the 90 degree, with the right chassis and proper electronics the right config for the new rubber? Doesn't seem to be any chatter talk anymore, and Johnny Rea has taken to it very well. Maybe Ducati are actually one step away from the podium........if only they had brought the new bits earlier it could have been a much different season.



I too was thinking Honda might of upped the ante and handed out the latest RC to Bradl and Bautista to put more pressure on Lorenzo.
 
Your point is you have no point......simple. Unless you somehow know what its like to pilot a Desmosedici at anywhere near Motogp race pace, and this I seriously doubt.



And when was the last time a Ducati engineer went into a gravel trap at 200+kph like Rossi, Nicky, Karol and Hector have regularly for the past two years? How do you pass judgement on a Motogp riders commitment from the safety of your armchair? Especially one that has competed in, and won more than any other rider in the past 30 years?



On a point with no point, how about that Cowboys vs Manly game. Poor old Thurston looked bewildered with the refs. Hahaha sucked in now he knows how NSW feels. The cause of the problems, the Cowboys were in blue, Manly maroon, the refs got confused!!!!!!!!
 
It never fails. Some ........ gets his panties in a wad over having no argument, tries to play grammar hammer, and promptly spells something wrong. ....... awesome



Even funnier, those cocks in the bleachers then promptly tapping the space bar too often whilst critiquing the ................
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I havent seen the forum rules which say these things are not allowed. He didnt post the much hated 'spoiler', there was no abuse, and his opionion was at least 50% correct, but 100% correct compared to yours (I take no responsibility for any plagiarism that may have occured).



Yes I can recognise in myself that I take a certain pleasure in posts regarding Rossi's struggles. I am in fact capable of self reflection, warts and all. No its not really a good thing. I dont feel the need to try and belittle you personally about any lack of jacking off opportunities you are experiencing recently. Sexual tension is a very serious thing. Try women as the cure, its what Ive been using since Stoners injury.







I too was thinking Honda might of upped the ante and handed out the latest RC to Bradl and Bautista to put more pressure on Lorenzo.

Going by nakomoto's unusually frank (by japanese corporate standards) public comments, I think honda have gone all out to show dorna they can't nobble them by the weight changes, tyre changes etc, which they clearly perceive was the case whether or not this is so. Whether they are happy about the extra expense this required is another question.



Really enjoy your posts, and don't like argumentum ad hominem, but I don't have much problem with rossi not over exerting himself on the ducati in practice, he still mostly is the best in races. The thing was an absolute pig for stoner in 2010 as well but wasn't in 2009, and rossi had nothing to do with the 2010 bike, other than ducati perhaps thinking, obviously erroneously, that they were building a bike to suit him. I initially saw some vindication for stoner in rossi and jb not being able to fix the thing with a few quick tweaks as they and many others seemed to think would happen , but thought the gods had punished rossi for his hubris more than sufficiently some time back, and believe we will see something similar to what transpired when stoner jumped on the honda in 2010 at the post valencia end of season test this year. He can still ride, remember the wet race second this year.
 
I havent seen the forum rules which say these things are not allowed. He didnt post the much hated 'spoiler', there was no abuse, and his opinion was at least 50% correct, but 100% correct compared to yours (I take no responsibility for any plagiarism that may have occured).



That says it all really.........
 

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