Hayden drops a hint

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Sep 11 2008, 05:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>"dont worry he'll be an utter dismal failure thats 100% for sure" Pinky11 sept 2008

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I don't care if Hayden is a success or a failure on the Duc.....the BET was if Hayden signed with the Factory Ducati Team then you would never return to this forum again.

See ya later, Pinky!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (willdafrog @ Sep 12 2008, 01:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't care if Hayden is a success or a failure on the Duc.....the BET was if Hayden signed with the Factory Ducati Team then you would never return to this forum again.

See ya later, Pinky!


That indeed was what he said.
Lets see if he keeps his word.

Reporting from Indy

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>"I have had a long history with Honda, and I don't have -- sure, things here lately have kind of went, you know, kind of turned ugly with everything going on, all the drama. But still, we've had a lot of good races together, won championships in the AMA, and obviously the World Championship was the big one. Sure, every day wasn't just a big holiday but we had some good days, and I'm really grateful for the opportunity they gave me. But I think it's, you know, it's time to move on, try something different. But we'll worry about that later and for now just focus on this
weekend and try to go out in a good way together." Nicky Hayden

He could have talked .... about Honda and have been justified, but he didn't and still is grateful. That is class.

Unlike, Peders who last year threatened to leave during contract time, then talked .... about his teammate, then threatened to organize a boycott of Michelin, then left early from testing while people like Lorenzo & Colin stayed to work, then cried to HRC that he might quit if he didn't get the Bridgestones. Oh and what does Honda do? They reward the .... talker and dump the guy that got them a WC who is willing to praise the company for the opportunity and saying he wants to go out in a "good way together". I'm I missing something here?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (willdafrog @ Sep 11 2008, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>if Hayden signed with the Factory Ducati Team then you would never return to this forum again.

See ya later, Pinky!
Its just a matter or time before the official announcement is made.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Sep 11 2008, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Reporting from Indy



He could have talked .... about Honda and have been justified, but he didn't and still is grateful. That is class.

Unlike, Peders who last year threatened to leave during contract time, then talked .... about his teammate, then threatened to organize a boycott of Michelin, then left early from testing while people like Lorenzo & Colin stayed to work, then cried to HRC that he might quit if he didn't get the Bridgestones. Oh and what does Honda do? They reward the .... talker and dump the guy that got them a WC who is willing to praise the company for the opportunity and saying he wants to go out in a "good way together". I'm I missing something here?

Hayden was humbled because Honda gave HIM the championship, not the other way around buddy.... get it right. Why did you think he kept his mouth shut all this time? Because he knew he couldn't become a champion if not for Honda.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Sep 11 2008, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Reporting from Indy



He could have talked .... about Honda and have been justified, but he didn't and still is grateful. That is class.

Unlike, Peders who last year threatened to leave during contract time, then talked .... about his teammate, then threatened to organize a boycott of Michelin, then left early from testing while people like Lorenzo & Colin stayed to work, then cried to HRC that he might quit if he didn't get the Bridgestones. Oh and what does Honda do? They reward the .... talker and dump the guy that got them a WC who is willing to praise the company for the opportunity and saying he wants to go out in a "good way together". I'm I missing something here?



An ungrateful organisation!!!

They did not learn from Rossi & Stoner. Who have spanked them really good after life at honda. God I hope Nicky folllow in those two foot steps. As for the asimobot.............. Thats another Max Biaggi in the making. A great 250 rider and a grand pix looser....






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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky Clown @ Sep 11 2008, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hayden was humbled because Honda gave HIM the championship, not the other way around buddy.... get it right. Why did you think he kept his mouth shut all this time? Because he knew he couldn't become a champion if not for Honda.


You are an .....!!! Get lost pinky/SuperShinya56.






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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Sep 11 2008, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hayden was humbled because Honda gave HIM the championship, not the other way around buddy.... get it right. Why did you think he kept his mouth shut all this time? Because he knew he couldn't become a champion if not for Honda.
Its obvious what your agenda is on the forum. You can stop with the facade. I exposed you within the first three posts you made, now others like Fizzle are on to you. You know zero about Nicky Hayden. As far as gracious humility, its been a staple of his character as long as he's been alive. You will be hard pressed to find him saying anything bad about any equipment he has used, even when they let him down. Its been rather an accepted theme that Michelin have dropped the ball, so much so that the icon of the sport switched (and now praised for it), and during that time, you would have difficulty finding harsh words from Hayden. During the last two years, it has been well document by independent sources that Honda have been severely behind the development curve. So much so that Pedrosa and Melandri (while at Gresini) were very vocal about their frustrations, one threatened to quite, the other threatened to no fight for position in the race. During that same time, you would be hard pressed to find hasty words from Hayden.

Its really not you I'm trying to convince, you are fairly worthless as a member. But this is more for the other reads of this thread as it pertains to your point.

We know you are not a fan of Shinya, and you have suckered a few into talking .... about Nakano as retaliation to your dribble. Your post are about two things, talking .... about Hayden and being a sick fanboy of Rossi. Neither of which you do convincingly.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (evo9 @ Sep 11 2008, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You are an .....!!! Get lost pinky/SuperShinya56.That is funny, I was thinking the same thing.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (evo9 @ Sep 12 2008, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You are an .....!!! Get lost pinky/SuperShinya56.






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After all, there CAN'T BE another Pinky on this forum ?!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Sep 12 2008, 12:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Shall I revisit the post race discussions from 2007. I think I shall. This is going to sting a bit, Babel. Bite down on something.

Try 2006 instead. I was not convinced they could be that stupid and still isn't.
As for 2007 I still had my doubt's about the bike being buildt for Pedrosa, but as for who was the real #1 rider at HRC there was never any doubt. That was clear even befor '07 started.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Sep 12 2008, 05:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Reporting from Indy

He could have talked .... about Honda and have been justified, but he didn't and still is grateful. That is class.

Unlike, Peders who last year threatened to leave during contract time, then talked .... about his teammate, then threatened to organize a boycott of Michelin, then left early from testing while people like Lorenzo & Colin stayed to work, then cried to HRC that he might quit if he didn't get the Bridgestones. Oh and what does Honda do? They reward the .... talker and dump the guy that got them a WC who is willing to praise the company for the opportunity and saying he wants to go out in a "good way together". I'm I missing something here?

Nicky is just covering his a$$ in case he follow the Melandri/Capirossi success on the 800 Ducati, and may need to find a job for 2010 with HRC....

Good luck to him....I am not convinced it will drastacally improve his chances and results, but I may be proven wrong...

It's pretty fair that Nicky is grateful to HRC, he owes them everything (probably the source of his loyalty). He knows it was them that showed him the ropes and them that allowed him to fight for the world title and win.

Jumkie, I agree that Nicky is a class act.

But the Kentucky Coyote isn't afraid of a little sarcastic humour to let his real feelings show...

From the same interview you quoted, "I fully plan on doing the whole season unless they lock the door over there on me, I plan on going in there and getting on the bike. (Laughter). That could happen. I mean, you know. There's probably people in that box that if I didn't show up probably would never notice."

Good one Nick!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 12 2008, 04:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's pretty fair that Nicky is grateful to HRC, he owes them everything (probably the source of his loyalty). He knows it was them that showed him the ropes and them that allowed him to fight for the world title and win.

And it is them that has failed him! But as the old saying goes "dont burn bridges as you cross them, you will never know when you need them to cross back". Nicky is going about it the right way. But if he does otherwise I sure dont fault him. He has put up with alot as Jumkie has pointed out a few post back. Where the others have threaten with altimatums, he remained humble....





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http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2008/...y/1/Thurs01.htm

Is Nicky even going to Race this weekend?

Why make it worse Nicky...sit this one out...go back to the bar with Hopper and make a weekend of it...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (evo9 @ Sep 12 2008, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And it is them that has failed him! But as the old saying goes "dont burn bridges as you cross them, you will never know when you need them to cross back". Nicky is going about it the right way. But if he does otherwise I sure dont fault him. He has put up with alot as Jumkie has pointed out a few post back. Where the others have threaten with altimatums, he remained humble....

It is easy to say that Honda have failed Nicky, but then anyone who doesn't win the world championship could equally argue that they were failed by their equipment/team. You must remember that Nicky was an employee of Honda, he didn't hire them to give him a bike, they hired him to ride it. With HRC being the team they are, they are in a position to expect top results, and they are in a position to hire other employees to achieve this if their current team fails. In short, they don't owe him .....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 12 2008, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It is easy to say that Honda have failed Nicky, but then anyone who doesn't win the world championship could equally argue that they were failed by their equipment/team. You must remember that Nicky was an employee of Honda, he didn't hire them to give him a bike, they hired him to ride it. With HRC being the team they are, they are in a position to expect top results, and they are in a position to hire other employees to achieve this if their current team fails. In short, they don't owe him .....

I think we are coming around to the Rossi arguement....Was it the bike or the rider that makes the difference to Wining or even just being Successful?

- Hopper is showing it was the Suzuki that made his success last year and not him
- Rossi proves it is almost all him and a lot of JB
- Casey is showing it is a complete package

With Nicky we have to wait and see?

Personally, I think it was Honda and Rossi that won him Nicky the 2006 title....he now has to prove to himself on the Ducati it was him and his talent....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MigsAngel @ Sep 12 2008, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think we are coming around to the Rossi arguement....Was it the bike or the rider that makes the difference to Wining or even just being Successful?

- Hopper is showing it was the Suzuki that made his success last year and not him
- Rossi proves it is almost all him and a lot of JB
- Casey is showing it is a complete package

With Nicky we have to wait and see?

Personally, I think it was Honda and Rossi that won him Nicky the 2006 title....he now has to prove to himself on the Ducati it was him and his talent....

Oh i disagree, i think the complete package is always a necessity. The rider may still be the largest single factor in the result, but he is still an employee however valuable he might be to his employer.

" It's looking like World Superbike with Aprilia"
haha go Nicky