GP 2010 => Who would YOU like OUT and IN?

Just looking at the riders, not in which team the new guys would ride:

who would U take out / who wouldnt U miss

who would U put IN?

my list:

OUT:

1. de angelis
2. takahashi
3. caneppa
4. toseland
5. vermeulen

IN:

1. simoncelli
2. aoyama
3. bautista
4. spies
5. bring Nakano back maaaaaan!!!!!!!! (know it wont happen! :-()

how bout U?

who should drop out? who belongs IN in Ur opinion?

IN:

1. Simoncelli
2. Bautista
3. Barbera
4. Aoyama (maybe)

I dont see spies being in for next year, especially if Haga takes the title.

Out:

1. Takahashi
2. Toseland
3. Talmasci (im sry to say i just dont see any promise in the guy in this class)
4. Canepa (back to test rider)
5. Gibernau (maybe got one more year left in him but who knows)
6. Elias (to make room for the 250 guys)

I think vermeulen still has some promise left in him

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PASSI @ Jun 29 2009, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Just looking at the riders, not in which team the new guys would ride:

who would U take out / who wouldnt U miss

who would U put IN?

my list:

OUT:

1. de angelis
2. takahashi
3. caneppa
4. toseland
5. vermeulen

IN:

1. simoncelli
2. aoyama
3. bautista
4. spies
5. bring Nakano back maaaaaan!!!!!!!! (know it wont happen! :-()

how bout U?

who should drop out? who belongs IN in Ur opinion?

You've just chose the top 3 riders from 250's not a good idea.

Toseland is a brilliant rider.. Spies wouldnt do any better on the tech 3.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ngads @ Jun 29 2009, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>IN:

1. Simoncelli
2. Bautista
3. Barbera
4. Aoyama (maybe)

I dont see spies being in for next year, especially if Haga takes the title.

Out:

1. Takahashi
2. Toseland
3. Talmasci (im sry to say i just dont see any promise in the guy in this class)
4. Canepa (back to test rider)
5. Gibernau (maybe got one more year left in him but who knows)
6. Elias (to make room for the 250 guys)

I think vermeulen still has some promise left in him

You've done the same, just the top 4 250 riders.They WONT get factory rides if they did come in and your list for 2011 exclusions would include them

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rickyduck @ Jun 29 2009, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You've just chose the top 3 riders from 250's not a good idea.

Toseland is a brilliant rider.. Spies wouldnt do any better on the tech 3.


You've done the same, just the top 4 250 riders.They WONT get factory rides if they did come in and your list for 2011 exclusions would include them

Yeh ur right...i did not specify that i did not mean that all those riders would be in or out...i just listed the ones that i thought were a possibility. Obv. every rider i put wont leave or be brought in

of the current 250 guys, i see bautista as being the one with the "it" factor. i am not convinced by simoncelli and god forbid barbera gets a ride! aoyama deserves a chance but imo will be another nakano, good but not race winningly good.
from the wsb pool, only spies should step up, the rest are not quite there yet.

leavers would be elias, de angelis, takahashi, toseland, vermeulen and canepa. of those, its a 50/50 between JT and CV who stays.

just my opinion.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ngads @ Jun 29 2009, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeh ur right...i did not specify that i did not mean that all those riders would be in or out...i just listed the ones that i thought were a possibility. Obv. every rider i put wont leave or be brought in
Sorry, was in a mood when I posted that cos of my ....... ...... bike.

Also I really dont want JT to go, best brit we've had for years.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rickyduck @ Jun 29 2009, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sorry, was in a mood when I posted that cos of my ....... ...... bike.

Also I really dont want JT to go, best brit we've had for years.

JT will have one more year in motogp if he is luck and it better be a good one

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rickyduck @ Jun 29 2009, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You've just chose the top 3 riders from 250's not a good idea.

Toseland is a brilliant rider.. Spies wouldnt do any better on the tech 3.

i dont think so! look what he has done with the rizla suzuki! but he cant move right in to the factory team so i dont think hell ride in GP next year...

i wouldnt throw them out again judging them by their results on non factory material...see what kallio does! HAS to stay! or look at edwards! if he rides like this, he can stay till his mid-40s in my opinion!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (johnny @ Jun 29 2009, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>JT will have one more year in motogp if he is luck and it better be a good one
Not if he keeps up his Assen performance, which was extremely good.
He's getting gradually better at each race, come donnington I reckon he could get a top 5.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rickyduck @ Jun 29 2009, 08:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not if he keeps up his Assen performance, which was extremely good.
He's getting gradually better at each race, come donnington I reckon he could get a top 5.

I must admit watching him at assen was def a surprise in his improvement and it was good to see him up there again, cuz i do like the guy and he is a talented racer. Unfortunately for him, Edwards is always in front.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rickyduck @ Jun 29 2009, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not if he keeps up his Assen performance, which was extremely good.
He's getting gradually better at each race, come donnington I reckon he could get a top 5.


Hes getting better as the races are notched off but time is not his friend. He has the potential just need a bit more finesse on track and getting the bike set up.

Let hope he dose not let the pressure get to him again at Donny this year

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ngads @ Jun 29 2009, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I must admit watching him at assen was def a surprise in his improvement and it was good to see him up there again, cuz i do like the guy and he is a talented racer. Unfortunately for him, Edwards is always in front.
Yea, but then again edwards has had a few more years experience in MotoGP.

And, Edwards is a better rider, maybe.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (johnny @ Jun 29 2009, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hes getting better as the races are notched off but time is not his friend. He has the potentail just need a bit more finesse on track and getting the bike set up.

Let hope he dose not let the pressure get to him again at Donny this year
I guess you're right, it would be a shame to lose him from the GPs,

i dont like JT since the thing with edwards...think that behaviour was not ok (taking the chiefmechanic from edwards without asking or sth!)...not so cool u have to admit!?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rickyduck @ Jun 29 2009, 08:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yea, but then again edwards has had a few more years experience in MotoGP.

And, Edwards is a better rider, maybe.


I guess you're right, it would be a shame to lose him from the GPs,


Im def convinced that Edwards is a better rider, which is why JT should be nervous. Your teammate is the first guy u wanna beat

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ngads @ Jun 29 2009, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Im def convinced that Edwards is a better rider, which is why JT should be nervous. Your teammate is the first guy u wanna beat
For sure, but a team cant dump someone for one or two positions difference. Assen - edwards nearlly won in 06.
If that was the case - no team would exist.. lorenzo, dovi, canepa, talma theyd all be out.

Dont forget, we're only talking a matter of seconds.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ngads @ Jun 29 2009, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Im def convinced that Edwards is a better rider, which is why JT should be nervous. Your teammate is the first guy u wanna beat

100 per cent agree

besides edwards is the cooler rider, he doesnt give himself that much pressure...he knows his career is coming to an end and just enoys riding! toseland is the opposite....he does EVERYTHING from weightin his bodyfatpercentage every morning to ....dont know.....perhaps thats a mistake!? perhaps he should see things a LITTE more relaxed (sry for my bad english! im german!)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rickyduck @ Jun 29 2009, 09:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>For sure, but a team cant dump someone for one or two positions difference. Assen - edwards nearlly won in 06.
If that was the case - no team would exist.. lorenzo, dovi, canepa, talma theyd all be out.

Dont forget, we're only talking a matter of seconds.

I agree with you on that one. Lets just hope that w.e decision is made regarding who stays and who goes is the right decision. I feel like some guys just dont get the shot that they deserve or at least the time period for success they deserve.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PASSI @ Jun 29 2009, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>100 per cent agree

besides edwards is the cooler rider, he doesnt give himself that much pressure...he knows his career is coming to an end and just enoys riding! toseland is the opposite....he does EVERYTHING from weightin his bodyfatpercentage every morning to ....dont know.....perhaps thats a mistake!? perhaps he should see things a LITTE more relaxed (sry for my bad english! im german!)

I see what you are saying, but Toseland is heavily committed. He is on an underperforming bike and like I said edwards has had so much experience on the yams - its not a fair argument at all cos they are two contrasting riders.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ngads @ Jun 29 2009, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I agree with you on that one. Lets just hope that w.e decision is made regarding who stays and who goes is the right decision. I feel like some guys just dont get the shot that they deserve or at least the time period for success they deserve.

For sure - I mean, the team managers are good but I hate seeing good talent go to waste

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PASSI @ Jun 29 2009, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>100 per cent agree

besides edwards is the cooler rider, he doesnt give himself that much pressure...he knows his career is coming to an end and just enoys riding! toseland is the opposite....he does EVERYTHING from weightin his bodyfatpercentage every morning to ....dont know.....perhaps thats a mistake!? perhaps he should see things a LITTE more relaxed (sry for my bad english! im german!)

hah dont worry its pretty good, and yeh agreed edwards is def a cooler guy on and off the track, i like his relaxed attitude and he looks like hes just hes havin fun

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rickyduck @ Jun 29 2009, 09:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>For sure - I mean, the team managers are good but I hate seeing good talent go to waste

Talent going to waste is more at risk also because of the reduction in number of bikes that are on the grid, but thats for another topic haha