Here we go, hopefully we can get some good information, coverage, and times for this test. We'll probably hear a lot from Ducati with all the problems they are trying to solve and how public it has become from the factory and the riders that the bike is not up to par. Ducati should have a new chassis and more work with the electronics for engine control during this test. I'm sure we'll eventually see them using an inverted swing arm and a quicker gear box, probably very similar to the Yamaha's gear box
. I haven't heard to much from the Yamaha camp but the riders have being saying they need more power for a long time now and after the race it's obvious they need some help with Pedrosa taking a win at a track that Jlo has been dominating. Does the Yamaha I4 have anything else to give, and can they get Ben in tune with the bike? Honda is looking like the gold standard and I'm not sure that they need anything besides continuing to fine tune the bikes to their riders. It seems that Dovi is back on track and has a good feeling from the front end so we may see him become more competitive. There isn't to much to say for Suzuki and spending money doesn't look like a wise investment for them being so far behind, hopefully they're saving it for the 2012 bike if they come back next year.
Estoril testing
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Should be good to see, I agree that all eyes will be on Ducati and Yamaha, both with axes to grind.
Burgess has been quoted as saying that the big bang yam donk can't really go much further with current rubber....
Burgess has been quoted as saying that the big bang yam donk can't really go much further with current rubber....
lol are u joking? In FP2 he went 1:38:5xx and race 1:38.877, now he is 1:39.056.
Valentino Rossi is the last, but run only 2 laps...wtf?
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No. "@motomatters: Wow. Whatever Ducati have, it worked for Nicky Hayden. He's just taken 0.6 off his best time of the weekend."
EDIT: Updated Times as of noon GMT courtesy Kropotkin.
Ow sorry, thx for the links.
Yeah it's working great for Nicky, but it seems it's not for Rossi. Same time as FP2;
Austin, any news (and I realise you got this via Twitter) as to whether Rossi is testing the new equipment at this stage?
Asking primarily based upon the times as his have not varied greatly whereas Hayden has shown major improvement from the race weekend (and not factoring in weather)
Gaz
Asking primarily based upon the times as his have not varied greatly whereas Hayden has shown major improvement from the race weekend (and not factoring in weather)
Gaz
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Woody Creek
Nicky said he was confident the new engine would allow him to go noticeably quicker, so I'm guessing he's on the new engine. The official site said they plan to do runs with the old chassis back to back with the new one. Not sure if they're already on the new chassis or not. Also supposed to be working on the electronics all day. So, in summary, nothing concrete, but I'd guess Nicky's already got his hands on the new engine. As to whether or not they're into the chassis or electronics package, hard to say. And considering Rossi hasn't made much of an improvement, I've no idea what he's got bolted on at the moment. Electronics?
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Tar Heel State
By the end of this test, I would say he will have Nick's bike bolted between his legs....
At 1PM
1 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha Factory Racing 1:37.170 - - 57
2 Colin Edwards Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:37.410 +0.240 +0.240 41
3 Casey Stoner Repsol Honda Team 1:37.506 +0.096 +0.336 25
4 Andrea Dovizioso Repsol Honda Team 1:37.603 +0.097 +0.433 35
5 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team 1:37.679 +0.076 +0.509 17
6 Cal Crutchlow Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:37.865 +0.186 +0.695 35
7 Marco Simoncelli San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:37.872 +0.007 +0.702 34
8 Nicky Hayden Ducati Marlboro Team 1:38.095 +0.223 +0.925 34
9 Ben Spies Yamaha Factory Racing 1:38.110 +0.015 +0.940 45
10 Valentino Rossi Ducati Marlboro Team 1:38.150 +0.040 +0.980 35
11 Hiroshi Aoyama San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:38.476 +0.326 +1.306 37
12 Karel Abraham Cardion AB Motoracing 1:38.617 +0.141 +1.447 43
13 Nobuatsu Aoki Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1:38.850 +0.233 +1.680 33
14 Loris Capirossi Pramac Racing Team 1:38.895 +0.045 +1.725 42
15 Toni Elias LCR Honda MotoGP 1:39.287 +0.392 +2.117 40
Both Edwards and Crutchlow improved almost a second from their best lap time in all session. What are they testing?
1 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha Factory Racing 1:37.170 - - 57
2 Colin Edwards Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:37.410 +0.240 +0.240 41
3 Casey Stoner Repsol Honda Team 1:37.506 +0.096 +0.336 25
4 Andrea Dovizioso Repsol Honda Team 1:37.603 +0.097 +0.433 35
5 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team 1:37.679 +0.076 +0.509 17
6 Cal Crutchlow Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:37.865 +0.186 +0.695 35
7 Marco Simoncelli San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:37.872 +0.007 +0.702 34
8 Nicky Hayden Ducati Marlboro Team 1:38.095 +0.223 +0.925 34
9 Ben Spies Yamaha Factory Racing 1:38.110 +0.015 +0.940 45
10 Valentino Rossi Ducati Marlboro Team 1:38.150 +0.040 +0.980 35
11 Hiroshi Aoyama San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:38.476 +0.326 +1.306 37
12 Karel Abraham Cardion AB Motoracing 1:38.617 +0.141 +1.447 43
13 Nobuatsu Aoki Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1:38.850 +0.233 +1.680 33
14 Loris Capirossi Pramac Racing Team 1:38.895 +0.045 +1.725 42
15 Toni Elias LCR Honda MotoGP 1:39.287 +0.392 +2.117 40
Both Edwards and Crutchlow improved almost a second from their best lap time in all session. What are they testing?
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It's a Monday - Edwards always goes fast on a Monday
I believe that's called Nicky Hayden syndrome.
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[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]1 Marco Simoncelli San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:36.211 - - 65
2 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha Factory Racing 1:36.316 +0.105 +0.105 91
3 Casey Stoner Repsol Honda Team 1:36.602 +0.286 +0.391 49
4 Cal Crutchlow Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:36.850 +0.248 +0.639 70
5 Valentino Rossi Ducati Marlboro Team 1:37.382 +0.532 +1.171 75
6 Colin Edwards Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:37.410 +0.028 +1.199 51
7 Ben Spies Yamaha Factory Racing 1:37.421 +0.011 +1.210 69
8 Andrea Dovizioso Repsol Honda Team 1:37.460 +0.039 +1.249 63
9 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team 1:37.679 +0.219 +1.468 17
10 Nicky Hayden Ducati Marlboro Team 1:37.725 +0.046 +1.514 72
11 Hiroshi Aoyama San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:38.032 +0.307 +1.821 73
12 Toni Elias LCR Honda MotoGP 1:38.412 +0.380 +2.201 89
13 Karel Abraham Cardion AB Motoracing 1:38.617 +0.205 +2.406 61
14 Loris Capirossi Pramac Racing Team 1:38.633 +0.016 +2.422 83
15 Nobuatsu Aoki Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1:38.850 +0.217 +2.639 61[/font]
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[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Sic is reacting well to his mistake in the race. He seems to have become one of the fastest, if not the fastest, men in motogp? We need the test of different tracks for him.[/font]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][/font][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Lorenzo consistent -- and consistency can win this year.[/font]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Stoner unable to beat Sic and Lorenzo over several consecutive sessions... This is news.[/font]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][/font][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Crutchlow... biggest surprise!
[/font][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Rossi improving, but all others are improving as well. so the difference between the best Ducati and the top has not improved...[/font]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Pedro had to quit testing early because of pain.[/font]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]It seems they all tried a new Bridgestone tire that heats faster[/font]
2 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha Factory Racing 1:36.316 +0.105 +0.105 91
3 Casey Stoner Repsol Honda Team 1:36.602 +0.286 +0.391 49
4 Cal Crutchlow Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:36.850 +0.248 +0.639 70
5 Valentino Rossi Ducati Marlboro Team 1:37.382 +0.532 +1.171 75
6 Colin Edwards Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:37.410 +0.028 +1.199 51
7 Ben Spies Yamaha Factory Racing 1:37.421 +0.011 +1.210 69
8 Andrea Dovizioso Repsol Honda Team 1:37.460 +0.039 +1.249 63
9 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team 1:37.679 +0.219 +1.468 17
10 Nicky Hayden Ducati Marlboro Team 1:37.725 +0.046 +1.514 72
11 Hiroshi Aoyama San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:38.032 +0.307 +1.821 73
12 Toni Elias LCR Honda MotoGP 1:38.412 +0.380 +2.201 89
13 Karel Abraham Cardion AB Motoracing 1:38.617 +0.205 +2.406 61
14 Loris Capirossi Pramac Racing Team 1:38.633 +0.016 +2.422 83
15 Nobuatsu Aoki Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1:38.850 +0.217 +2.639 61[/font]
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[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Sic is reacting well to his mistake in the race. He seems to have become one of the fastest, if not the fastest, men in motogp? We need the test of different tracks for him.[/font]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][/font][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Lorenzo consistent -- and consistency can win this year.[/font]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Stoner unable to beat Sic and Lorenzo over several consecutive sessions... This is news.[/font]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][/font][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Crutchlow... biggest surprise!
[/font][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Rossi improving, but all others are improving as well. so the difference between the best Ducati and the top has not improved...[/font]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Pedro had to quit testing early because of pain.[/font]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]It seems they all tried a new Bridgestone tire that heats faster[/font]
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Sic is reacting well to his mistake in the race.
Lorenzo consistent -- and consistency can win this year.
Stoner unable to beat Sic and Lorenzo over several consecutive sessions... This is news.
Rossi improving, but all others are improving as well. so the difference between the best Ducati and the top has not improved...
Pedro had to quit testing early because of pain.
It seems they all tried a new Bridgestone tire that heats faster
Simosilli is ImO going to be the man to watch out for - he's certainly (amongst other things) very resilient - I'd really like ro see him finish and win
Lollo is certainly consistent - at riding, winning, being a prick..............................
After a great season start Stoner is starting to look like he's maybe losing it - always has somebody to blame, whinge about and now he has a pain in his arse
Big surprise seeing Crutchlow up there - credit where it's due - well done
Rossi is consistently around #5 - no prizes for that - if he's not making podium after 2 or 3 more races - there may be a problem they can't fix.
Hope Pedro feels/ gets physically better - I'm maybe going to have to take back the "alienette" label I gave him - let's wait for a couple more races
CE is CE - eternal mid-field rider
Spies - I don't know - he's got to get better - try infusion of italian blood
Dovi - I'd bet in 2012 he's referred to as "previous honda/ repsol team rider" or already in 2011 "as soon to be........."
Hayden - maybe on the way ro becoming CE's lookalike on a red bike
Sic is reacting well to his mistake in the race.
Lorenzo consistent -- and consistency can win this year.
Stoner unable to beat Sic and Lorenzo over several consecutive sessions... This is news.
Rossi improving, but all others are improving as well. so the difference between the best Ducati and the top has not improved...
Pedro had to quit testing early because of pain.
It seems they all tried a new Bridgestone tire that heats faster
Simosilli is ImO going to be the man to watch out for - he's certainly (amongst other things) very resilient - I'd really like ro see him finish and win
Lollo is certainly consistent - at riding, winning, being a prick..............................
After a great season start Stoner is starting to look like he's maybe losing it - always has somebody to blame, whinge about and now he has a pain in his arse
Big surprise seeing Crutchlow up there - credit where it's due - well done
Rossi is consistently around #5 - no prizes for that - if he's not making podium after 2 or 3 more races - there may be a problem they can't fix.
Hope Pedro feels/ gets physically better - I'm maybe going to have to take back the "alienette" label I gave him - let's wait for a couple more races
CE is CE - eternal mid-field rider
Spies - I don't know - he's got to get better - try infusion of italian blood
Dovi - I'd bet in 2012 he's referred to as "previous honda/ repsol team rider" or already in 2011 "as soon to be........."
Hayden - maybe on the way ro becoming CE's lookalike on a red bike
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]1 Marco Simoncelli San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:36.211 - - 65
2 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha Factory Racing 1:36.316 +0.105 +0.105 91
3 Casey Stoner Repsol Honda Team 1:36.602 +0.286 +0.391 49
4 Cal Crutchlow Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:36.850 +0.248 +0.639 70
5 Valentino Rossi Ducati Marlboro Team 1:37.382 +0.532 +1.171 75
6 Colin Edwards Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:37.410 +0.028 +1.199 51
7 Ben Spies Yamaha Factory Racing 1:37.421 +0.011 +1.210 69
8 Andrea Dovizioso Repsol Honda Team 1:37.460 +0.039 +1.249 63
9 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team 1:37.679 +0.219 +1.468 17
10 Nicky Hayden Ducati Marlboro Team 1:37.725 +0.046 +1.514 72
11 Hiroshi Aoyama San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:38.032 +0.307 +1.821 73
12 Toni Elias LCR Honda MotoGP 1:38.412 +0.380 +2.201 89
13 Karel Abraham Cardion AB Motoracing 1:38.617 +0.205 +2.406 61
14 Loris Capirossi Pramac Racing Team 1:38.633 +0.016 +2.422 83
15 Nobuatsu Aoki Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1:38.850 +0.217 +2.639 61[/font]
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[/font]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Sic is reacting well to his mistake in the race. [/font]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][/font][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Lorenzo consistent -- and consistency can win this year.[/font]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Stoner unable to beat Sic and Lorenzo over several consecutive sessions... This is news.[/font][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]
[/font][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Rossi improving, but all others are improving as well. so the difference between the best Ducati and the top has not improved...[/font]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]Pedro had to quit testing early because of pain.[/font]
[font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]It seems they all tried a new Bridgestone tire that heats faster[/font]
Sic has been very fast lately. Do you think he's on the same equipment as Stoner and Dani?
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Yes, of course. That's in his contract and I do not think he could be faster than the Repsol riders on inferior equipment. His main trouble is with managing the Bridgestone tires now, if he can sort that out he's a very serious contender for poles and podiums.
