Dovizioso vs Pedrosa

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Sep 18 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sorry bro I didn't think there was any differnce. Your all not in America and all use the Euro for money right? Or you guys still using pounds,crowns and pfennigs and ....?
you got it mate

quote name='ROCKGOD01' date='Sep 18 2008, 03:20 PM' post='154282']
Did I say vote for McCain? .... man I am voting for myself cause I sure as hell could do a better job than all 4 of them put together all hopped up on Red Bull so they even have wings. Don't look for a party to save you look to yourself and your neighbor. Save yourselves!

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Rockgod for Prez!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZQOEFggZ48

(btw. don't take offense RG, just messin'.. )

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Sep 18 2008, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Please read about John Maynard Keynes and Keynesian economics. He is the do-gooder who accidentally started this mess. It's too bad. He actually stumbled upon a pretty revolutionary find. He never believed governments would use it to for the sole purpose of maximizing tax revenues.



You seem to be confused about the true essence of the Keynesian revolution - have another look on Google if you must before you exhort people to read about what you clearly have not.

First understand Bentham, Smith, and Ricardo and contrast the classical view with the Cambridge interpretation. Second tell me who was placed in a pickle jar and put on display at Reading University for postherity.


I am a monetarist. Your liberal mind tricks won't work on me. Besides nobody cares about the classical model, it's the neo-classical model that is gathering steam.

I never said to read John Maynard Keynes, I said to read about him. His ideas have been grossly misused to the terror of citizens the world over. The Keynesian revolution has nothing to do with him. It has to do with people using his ideas to further their own ends. Even neo-classicists go nuts with Keynesian policy. Government spending is a drug. The more you spend the more you want to spend. It's easy when you don't pay the bills.

Smoothing business cycles is a wonderful feat. Constant over-stimulation leads to what we have today. He never realized it would be used to maximize federal tax revenue.

This crisis is kind of like the Asian crisis. Greenspan is a monetarist of note. He did a good job with the Asian crisis. I'm more old school than he is, but he made a good case for making some Keynesian leanings when disaster strikes.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Sep 18 2008, 10:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ahh so I gues your a .... sucker eh? And as far as I know Bush can't run again so that just shows what you know. Plus Obamanamics isn't something I want to learn speak or understand. Stupid mother ...... will drive our country straight into the grave. DOn't forget Barrack HUSSAIN Obama. YEah there you go you terrorist harboring befriending .............
Quick reminder, the Republicans were the ones who actually armed Saddam to the teeth with chemical and biological weapons and let him loose.

Secondly, your contention that Obama shares his middle name with a militant leader makes him a terrorist 'befriender', is perhaps some of the weakest reasoning I have heard in the past few years.

You really do struggle.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RCV600RR @ Sep 19 2008, 12:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Quick reminder, the Republicans were the ones who actually armed Saddam to the teeth with chemical and biological weapons and let him loose.

Secondly, your contention that Obama shares his middle name with a militant leader makes him a terrorist 'befriender', is perhaps some of the weakest reasoning I have heard in the past few years.

You really do struggle.
YEs i know the republicans armed him so what. That isn't what we were talking about.

Secondly no .... cause of his middle name doesn't make him a terrorist befriender. Its the terrorist friends who tried to bomb the white house who he later helped set up programs for people in Chicago he befriended. Go do your research before you try again. Struggle much eh with just lashing out with .... you hear on the news but never take in account you can find out for yourself the real truth behind his buddies. Go look up George Soros and what that guy represents. Plus the last thing I want for the country is someone who's evil wife doesn't even like it in America. She is a major ..... and he will keep her confidence! .... that buddy. And as far as this being republican or redneck or something else you would like to call it. It is merely basic to those of us americans who would like to see the country flourish without the socialistic horseshit being shoved down our throats due to tolerance and politically correct banter. I will say what I mean and be proud of being a real american. I love all people. I don't like the things many do like the ....'s but hey keep it out of disneyworld so my 5 and under kids can enjoy mickey mouse and what they have left of innocence. WHo needs that parade at a kids park? HMMMMM so think a little more about the things that were said in another post in the thread about safe this and that. You have to give up your freedoms for others to perform duties to keep you safe cause in most cases those lazy people don't want to be vigilant and let others do the work for them. Which brings us to left wing Dems. They want anyone who makes money on their own to pay for the weak and lazy. I say it is my choice and they should get off their ..... and welfare whoever they are and contribute. Like go work in the fields where the mexicans take the jobs. Is it bad that I love the freedom my grandfather fought to protect? IS it wrong to say what I mean because the freedom of speech is being accosted every day by tolerance and politicly correct ........ that homoganize the country into pink floyds the wall? If you want to continue to bash me and say things go ahead, but remember what I said and when your all wishing you had been a little more serious and listend to what I am saying for a second you might begin to think for yourselves instead of just repeating what was written or said in the news.

Uncanny.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Sep 19 2008, 12:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Who's computer crashed and left you mod?

Would you rather us be talking .... about Stoner then? Might that make you happier?

Dude, that is what happens man, we get off topic then get back on, then off, then on, its easy, you try it.

Thanks for your concern for my happyness. I think if I were to become a one rider fan it would have to be R De Puniet as he stays on track better than some on this thread

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Sep 19 2008, 02:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>YEs i know the republicans armed him so what. That isn't what we were talking about.
Well, I guess it's called judgementcraft. They arm Saddam and then twice fail to do the tiding job after their own doing.
They arm Osama Bin Laden only to fail in an endless attempts to tidy up after their own doings.

I'd say that have every bit to do with whom you can trust doing international affairs in the US.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Secondly no .... cause of his middle name doesn't make him a terrorist befriender. Its the terrorist friends who tried to bomb the white house who he later helped set up programs for people in Chicago he befriended. Go do your research before you try again.
And unless you can show us som proof or very convincing circumstantial evidence of what you write above, you do the same. This is nothing but the lowest of of the low back talking ........ comming from ultra conservatives. I see you are right there amongst them.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Sep 19 2008, 09:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well, I guess it's called judgementcraft. They arm Saddam and then twice fail to do the tiding job after their own doing.
They arm Osama Bin Laden only to fail in an endless attempts to tidy up after their own doings.

I'd say that have every bit to do with whom you can trust doing international affairs in the US.

And unless you can show us som proof or very convincing circumstantial evidence of what you write above, you do the same. This is nothing but the lowest of of the low back talking ........ comming from ultra conservatives. I see you are right there amongst them.

Not wishing to steal anyone's thunder on this; but the US provided a very small percentage of Saddam's chemical weapons equipment:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weap...t_1960s_-_1980s

52% came from Germany
21% came from France

I wouldn't forget China and USSR either - they along with the US and the UK all sold weapons to Iraq at some stage

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goldwing @ Sep 19 2008, 03:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think if I were to become a one rider fan it would have to be R De Puniet as he stays on track better than some on this thread

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Sep 19 2008, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well, I guess it's called judgementcraft. They arm Saddam and then twice fail to do the tiding job after their own doing.
They arm Osama Bin Laden only to fail in an endless attempts to tidy up after their own doings.

I'd say that have every bit to do with whom you can trust doing international affairs in the US.

And unless you can show us som proof or very convincing circumstantial evidence of what you write above, you do the same. This is nothing but the lowest of of the low back talking ........ comming from ultra conservatives. I see you are right there amongst them.
OK here is your proof - William Ayers an american who doesn't love his country. A total piece of .... who had enough stupidity and gaul to bomb his own country.
2nd- Rashid Khalidi who is a former PLO member and a friend and confidont of Mahmaud Ahmadinijad the moron in charge of Iran who wants to blow us up as well. So do you still think the messiah is a good candidate or did the dems .... up? I think Hillary was a better choice but hey they like the guy and made him a rockstar so all you people who just watch tv fall in love and never question him.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Sep 19 2008, 01:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>They arm Osama Bin Laden only to fail in an endless attempts to tidy up after their own doings.

No, Afghanistan is totally different.

The Afghan people have no quarrel with the U.S. We freed them. After the war we left, and the KGB went back in. As you can see the KGB have done an incredible job with their psy-ops. We never took it very seriously until after 9/11.

Why do you think President Bush is morbidly obsessed with Vladimir Putin?

Hypothetical question here.(I didn't make this up but I not sure of the source.)

Can Obama pass an FBI entrance exam?

Because of his associations, friends, and past drug use he wouldn't even get passed the first day or first hour. It has been said that he wouldn't even get in the door.

What does this mean to you?

If you want to link Saddam to Republicans then you can link Osama to Democrats. Watch the road to 9/11. Leadership in general has failed the American people and I think that most people are realizing that we do need change.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Sep 19 2008, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hypothetical question here.(I didn't make this up but I not sure of the source.)

Can Obama pass an FBI entrance exam?

Because of his associations, friends, and past drug use he wouldn't even get passed the first day or first hour. It has been said that he wouldn't even get in the door.

What does this mean to you?

If you want to link Saddam to Republicans then you can link Osama to Democrats. Watch the road to 9/11. Leadership in general has failed the American people and I think that most people are realizing that we do need change.
Agreed but you just can't say "change" and move on. What does that change mean and have specificly. I haven't heard .... from Obama and it seems like the buzzword he uses is starting to get tired without meaning.

Let's get back on topic. I think there is going to be alot of friction within the HRC garage next year, Dovizioso's going to have to find his place within the team and not settle to play second fiddle to Dani. He can't let himself be stepped on like Nicky Hayden, he has to put his foot down and voice his opinion if a situation such as Nicky's arose. Hayden was treated like a mule but that was due to his own fault, if he felt he was treated so unfairly than he should of opened his mouth and said so. I don't think Dovizioso is the type to back down queitly and accept a lesser role in the team than Dani. Like i said before, Dovizioso is the guy to bring back Honda's glory, I just hope they see it and give him a fair chance at it. Dovizioso is going to be the man to take it to Rossi, you guys just wait and see.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Sep 19 2008, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Let's get back on topic. I think there is going to be alot of friction within the HRC garage next year, Dovizioso's going to have to find his place within the team and not settle to play second fiddle to Dani. He can't let himself be stepped on like Nicky Hayden, he has to put his foot down and voice his opinion if a situation such as Nicky's arose. Hayden was treated like a mule but that was due to his own fault, if he felt he was treated so unfairly than he should of opened his mouth and said so. I don't think Dovizioso is the type to back down queitly and accept a lesser role in the team than Dani. Like i said before, Dovizioso is the guy to bring back Honda's glory, I just hope they see it and give him a fair chance at it. Dovizioso is going to be the man to take it to Rossi, you guys just wait and see.
I agree with you to get back on topic here. If dovi is going to get the main spotlight from Honda he will have to be born again in Spain and be named Dani. The sponsors are not going to help another Italian win a championship. If they play their cards right in the dovi camp he will take his shots when he can but be sure not to create tension with Puig cause he will have something to say about it. Honda will not have Glory as you say for many years because there is a company out there that wants to win at any cost unlike honda who only wants to win with Pedrosa.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Sep 19 2008, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Agreed but you just can't say "change" and move on. What does that change mean and have specificly. I haven't heard .... from Obama and it seems like the buzzword he uses is starting to get tired without meaning.

I am on your side on many things Rock.

Both candidates are using the word "change" pretty loosely. Obama has even ridiculed McCain for stealing his slogan. So far McCain and Palin have done a better job at mapping out the type of change they would like to see. Reform has been used alongside change.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Sep 19 2008, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I am on your side on many things Rock.

Both candidates are using the word "change" pretty loosely. Obama has even ridiculed McCain for stealing his slogan. So far McCain and Palin have done a better job at mapping out the type of change they would like to see. Reform has been used alongside change.
We just need someone too be real and do what they say more than ever. Our tax break we all just got came from china and that isn't good. Either party, indy, whoever yu want to be owned by another country you had better vote on issues and not ........ like this rockstar image of someone who clams to know what to do.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Sep 19 2008, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>We just need someone too be real and do what they say more than ever. Our tax break we all just got came from china and that isn't good. Either party, indy, whoever yu want to be owned by another country you had better vote on issues and not ........ like this rockstar image of someone who clams to know what to do.

Even better is our banks are being bailed out by foreign nations as well.

I agree we need someone to deliver. That's why congress has the lowest approval rating ever. They want to bail while we have some pretty major crisis on our hands. Our economy is not looking good and they can't decide whether to allow drilling or not so they fiddle around all day long. But .... all that it's vacation time for another few months. See ya guys next year. WTF...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Sep 19 2008, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Even better is our banks are being bailed out by foreign nations as well.

I agree we need someone to deliver. That's why congress has the lowest approval rating ever. They want to bail while we have some pretty major crisis on our hands. Our economy is not looking good and they can't decide whether to allow drilling or not so they fiddle around all day long. But .... all that it's vacation time for another few months. See ya guys next year. WTF...
Dude how bout ...... drill drill drill. Plus I am sure you know who is in control in the congress and Nancy Pelosi that ...... .... has no idea what the hell she is doin other than ...... us all but sideways. NO i take that back sideways to.