Dovi and Petrucci

JKant said:

Oh come now, this isn't me being biased! Blind spot at 45 deg?? The marshal is a big orange blob right there!

Most motorcycle helmets (never worn a driving one) have a horizontal vision range of about 110 deg (55 deg off-axis). A racing helmet with less than that for a sport where peripheral vision is exceptionally important doesn't make sense.

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So you aren't going to test it then?

I have, well, from experience.

In my helmet vision is around 110 degrees as you suggest (perhaps larger) and yet I cannot see a lot of things that are at angles to me without a head turn/check when those things (a dog for example) approaches from the side.

As suggested, check/test it and remembering during the test that you have just crashed and thus your focus is not looking for others but looking for yourself.

Bias exists both overtly (conciously) and covertly (subconciously) btw

IMO once again, all is much ado about nothing as he is not the first and nor will he be the last.

Edit to add. On this, I do wear glasses ........... should have listened to mum many years ago and my vision may be restircted with glasses although I had similar issues prior to glasses





Actually, calling Shovel.
Can or could you please advise of the peripheral vision for JL's helmet?
Is it a standard ?
Thanks man

Racing helmets generally have smaller visor apertures due to the adage, more material of the helmet gives more strength.
Less requirements for peripheral vision because cars, junctions and pedestrians don't exist on a motogp track.
I'm only generalising and thinking of F1 lids and the old but great Simpson Bandits. I'm sure shovel can give an accurate answer though...

BTW JK, your image shows JL wearing his previous brand of helmet as well.

From memory he left HJC and went to Shark due to issues with the HJC

Gaz said:

BTW JK, your image shows JL wearing his previous brand of helmet as well.

From memory he left HJC and went to Shark due to issues with the HJC

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Supposedly the lining obscuring his vision at Qatar and fogging at Silverstone.

Did you know that Aaron Yates lost his deal with HJC for this? Shame, reputedly they offer great headbutt protection.

I still remember that one Arrib .............. loved the commentary and the attempts to then backflip from blaming the backmarker.

Those accusing JL of petulance need to look back through the years, but as we know, some don't care to go back beyond 10

Gaz said:

I still remember that one Arrib .............. loved the commentary and the attempts to then backflip from blaming the backmarker.

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Yeah, presumably he lost his deal through bringing the organisation into disrepute by association. I don't think it was so much for criminal and wilful abuse of the product itself although that's certainly a conversation that AGV may wish to have with their legal team at some stage...

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Yeah, presumably he lost his deal through bringing the organisation into disrepute by association. I don't think it was so much for criminal and wilful abuse of the product itself although that's certainly a conversation that AGV may wish to have with their legal team at some stage...

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Did he not have a history of, well, histrionics and attitude(ie. this wast he straw that broke the camel's back kind of thing)?

I vaguely remember that he was no shrinking violet.

Gaz said:

Did he not have a history of, well, histrionics and attitude(ie. this wast he straw that broke the camel's back kind of thing)?

I vaguely remember that he was no shrinking violet.

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No - a complete arse...but bloody spectacular sideways into the Carousel at Road America!

EDIT: Not so much...