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Donington -dug up

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<span style="color:#FF0000Donington Park has confirmed that it is to hold further discussions with the FIA as plans to continue hosting national and international racing during the course of the earthworks designed to bring the circuit up to Formula One standard appeared to be heading for trouble.

Amid rumours that the four major safety licences that it requires to stage meetings had been suspended, the circuit has revealed that it is to maintain a dialogue with the FIA - which would grant the necessary licence for next year's Formula One return - after the Easter break. A planned inspection by the international governing body, due for last week, did not take place

After a last-minute temporary licence was issued by the Motor Sport Association for the national-level MG Car Club and Historic Sports Car Club meetings last weekend, a permanent 'no passing zone' established under yellow flags between McLeans and Coppice - and later extended to include preceding corners as well - meant that 'racing' was badly affected, and led to criticism of both the circuit and the MSA for even allowing the events to go ahead.

The problem area at present surrounds the work to create a new access tunnel under the track between the McLeans and Coppice, which has led to much reduced run-off, with only slim earth banks and rows of tyres protecting the excavations, and extending out towards the track, leaving little room for error. Although the MSA acted in order to protect last weekend's meeting and, principally, the clubs involved in organising it, it is now understood that further off-track developments, including the cancellation of a proposed FIA safety inspection, could place all future racing in jeopardy this season.

Several organisers have already taken the decision to cancel events pencilled in for Donington, including both MotorsportVision, which was to have staged the opening round of this year's Formula Palmer Audi championship there this coming weekend [18-19 April], and Britcar, which took early action to switch its early May round to Rockingham.

"Following widely publicised concerns regarding recent development work at the circuit, MSVR requested assurances from Donington that all necessary works for the venue to receive a valid track licence from the governing body of motorsport in the UK, the MSA, would be completed ahead of the MSVR 'Blast in the Park' event, which includes the opening rounds of the FPA Championship," a MotorsportVision statement explained.

"Mindful of the importance of competitors' planning and arrangements, Donington Park was given a deadline of 1pm [9 April] to address these concerns. However, MSVR received no communication from the circuit. A spokesman for the MSA has also confirmed that they will not issue the circuit with a track licence until the circuit has been inspected and fully complies with MSA regulations. Accordingly, MSVR has been left with no alternative but to cancel the event in order to give the competitors, marshals and officials as much notice as reasonably possible.

"It is quite unsatisfactory and particularly unacceptable that we have received no communication from the circuit on the matter. We are currently in discussions with all our series and championship co-ordinators to arrange alternative dates and venues, and these will be confirmed at the earliest opportunity."

Doubt now surrounds the British F3/GT double-header and British Touring Car Championship events due at Donington on 25-26 April and 16-17 May respectively, although neither organiser has yet taken the decision to move elsewhere.

From what I hear, there is virtually no run off left at McLeans, IMO one of the trickiest on the circuit and which is notorious for lowsides. BSB is scheduled to run next month, WSB in June and of course Moto GP in July. In the unlikely event of cancellations, could they switch venues for such large events? Track officials maintain there is not a problem:

<span style="color:#FF0000"There are two separate issues relating to cars and bikes using the circuit," a Donington spokesperson told Crash.net, "With the bikes, it is the run-off on the outside of the section between McLeans and Coppice and, with cars, to the inside of the same area.

"There is no specific update on what has already been reported to this point, but I can confirm that talks are planned for the next week. The works needed for bike racing to proceed is minimal and we are confident that that can go ahead. With the cars, there are plans in place for the architect to visit the circuit and discuss what can be done but, obviously, nothing has happened over the Easter weekend.

So they insist that it is minimal work outfield, burying the hole, but so far all the circuit owners seem to be burying is their collective heads in the sand. This smacks of another Great British .... up.
 
This sounds like a complete and utter joke. I was planning on going to the WSB there, wanted to visit the place one last time before they .... it up. But sounds like they've already done it.
 
what ballacks bernie jumps on the band wagon and everybody goes running to him
now everything is fooked up a donny .

bernie you should have spent money on silverstone

fook off with max down a dark alleyway somewhere but watch out for cctv airhole
 
There are some pics in the latest Autosport that show just how close to the track the work has been. Bloody ludicrous access roads on the run off, there is no way anyone should be racing on that circuit as it is. Donington screws it up again, but you will probably want to blame the BBC.
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well the bbc got plenty of our money im sure they could try a little sports channel them selves freeview/sky/etc and show grass roots racing etc like bikes/open wheelers/kart owt really theres plenty of history in the uk for it or even team up with someone for it

freeview/freesat is crying out for a good sports channel

i wish men and motors would show more i really liked "scratchin" etc
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Apr 15 2009, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well the bbc got plenty of our money im sure they could try a little sports channel them selves freeview/sky/etc and show grass roots racing etc like bikes/open wheelers/kart owt really theres plenty of history in the uk for it or even team up with someone for it

freeview/freesat is crying out for a good sports channel

i wish men and motors would show more i really liked "scratchin" etc
is motors tv still going. i used to have it years ago and they showed AMA British supermoto, European supermotard plus load of other 2 and four wheel racing. They even showed drag racing and tractor pulling if my memory serves.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Apr 15 2009, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>is motors tv still going. i used to have it years ago and they showed AMA British supermoto, European supermotard plus load of other 2 and four wheel racing. They even showed drag racing and tractor pulling if my memory serves.

yes it is
if i remember it was free to view a while ago but now its pay on sky
i watched it a lot and the only place to this day i seen the BATHURST LIVE
so thank to motors tv for that
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Apr 15 2009, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There are some pics in the latest Autosport that show just how close to the track the work has been. Bloody ludicrous access roads on the run off, there is no way anyone should be racing on that circuit as it is. Donington screws it up again, but you will probably want to blame the BBC.
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I was lucky enough to race Donington in superkarts before they screwed it up, but what a joke. All because Adolf Ecclestone wants to make more money. What the hell is this 'no passing zone' ..... If I wanted to have those kind of restrictions I would just race on the road, whats the point in going racing if you can't overtake?? (Of course unless they are planning ahead for the snore show formation that is F1)
 
The other thing it now seems that Donington have 'dug into' is a mountain of debt.

The future of the British F1 Gp is now in doubt. Wheatcroft & Son Ltd. (the owners) have issued legal proceedings to the circuits operators over £2.4m rent arrears.
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Ecclestone has said if Donington doesn't come through all this .... soon then there will be no future plans for a British F1 event.

I've maintained for years that it was time to get out of Doni (which has been atrociously run for decades) and that the move to Silverstone under the more capable stewardship of the BRDC was a more concrete one and would be better for the future of the sport.

Looks like in this era of toxic debt and the sub prime market, Donington may be fast on its way to being re-possessed!!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Apr 23 2009, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The other thing it now seems that Donington have 'dug into' is a mountain of debt.

The future of the British F1 Gp is now in doubt. Wheatcroft & Son Ltd. (the owners) have issued legal proceedings to the circuits operators over £2.4m rent arrears.
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Ecclestone has said if Donington doesn't come through all this .... soon then there will be no future plans for a British F1 event.

I've maintained for years that it was time to get out of Doni (which has been atrociously run for decades) and that the move to Silverstone under the more capable stewardship of the BRDC was a more concrete one and would be better for the future of the sport.

Looks like in this era of toxic debt and the sub prime market, Donington may be fast on its way to being re-possessed!!
wtf is happening to our country mate
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Apr 23 2009, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>wtf is happening to our country mate
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Not that hard to figure out compa. Just look here on this forum. We all got'em, and they vote too. Politicians (who are thinly veiled agents of big business) know all they have to do is throw up a nice add filled with lies and the morons swallow it whole. They get easily elected and we get screwed. Its not only until it gets so bad do people come to their senses, but by that time it usually too late. We're .......
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 23 2009, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not that hard to figure out compa. Just look here on this forum. We all got'em, and they vote too. Politicians (who are thinly veiled agents of big business) know all they have to do is throw up a nice add filled with lies and the morons swallow it whole. They get easily elected and we get screwed. Its not only until it gets so bad do people come to their senses, but by that time it usually too late. We're .......
Aint that the truth compa
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 23 2009, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not that hard to figure out compa. Just look here on this forum. We all got'em, and they vote too. Politicians (who are thinly veiled agents of big business) know all they have to do is throw up a nice add filled with lies and the morons swallow it whole. They get easily elected and we get screwed. Its not only until it gets so bad do people come to their senses, but by that time it usually too late. We're .......

Says the man whose willing to cage/kill his fellow country men in hopes of combating a phantom class of elite swindlers whose identity has been fabricated for the sole purpose of expanding governmental power.

Even the corporate villains we all loathe don't stoop so low to bring guns/cages.

Let's recap.

Business cycles; bubbles and corrections; fluctuating asset values-----all completely and totally normal regardless of the economic arrangement.

Terrorists who fly planes into buildings because they hate you---abnormal

I'm afraid of people who want to kill me for no apparent reason---government or terrorist. You are afraid of business men who fail to return profits.
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Yes. The problem is very easy to identify.
 
I have read all through this thread eagerly waiting for views on this years Donny Gp.

I know they are obviously in trouble there with races being cancelled left right and centre but has anyone got any details on what the state of play is with this years Gp.

i have already booked tickets and now i am beginning to wonder if this years event can, or will even take place.

has anyone else booked tickets and feeling the same thing ?

has anyone got any better info at the mo
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chanchan @ Apr 27 2009, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have read all through this thread eagerly waiting for views on this years Donny Gp.

I know they are obviously in trouble there with races being cancelled left right and centre but has anyone got any details on what the state of play is with this years Gp.

i have already booked tickets and now i am beginning to wonder if this years event can, or will even take place.

has anyone else booked tickets and feeling the same thing ?

has anyone got any better info at the mo
i was thinking of booking but now im not so sure .
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How can they finish the building work if they cant even afford the ground rent.
 
<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%Donington: MotoGP, WSBK and BSB will go ahead
Donington Park has released a statement insisting that its three major motorcycle events will go ahead as planned, despite Thursday's announcement that circuit boss Simon Gillett is being sued by owner Tom Wheatcroft over 'unpaid rent'.

“Donington Park staff have confirmed that, for the foreseeable future, it is a case of "business as usual" as they re-commence their full programme of race meetings in mid-May,” claimed the statement.

“The Grand Prix Master event, with its array of F1 cars and high powered sportcars, remains on schedule to go-ahead over 9/10 May and the following weekend, the HiQ British Touring Car Championship is set to power into the circuit.

“Completing a hectic month, the third round of the ViSK British Superbike Championship is planned to be hosted over Spring Bank Holiday, 23/24/25 May.

"The two feature events of the calendar, bringing world championship racing to the Park with World Superbikes and MotoGP, will go ahead as scheduled.

“The British, and only round of the World Superbike series in the UK, will be held on 26/27/28 June with Noriyuki Haga and 'rookie' Ben Spies continuing their duel for supremacy.

“And the following month, 24/25/26 July, the sport's elite riders, led by eight times World Champion Valentino Rossi and including local hero James Toseland, will be in action in the British Motorcycle Grand Prix.

“Race fans and competitors are assured that the scheduled programme of car, motorcycle and truck racing also continues as planned.”

Wheatcroft & Son Limited awarded Gillett's company Donington Ventures Leisure Ltd a 150-year lease of the circuit in January, 2007.

Donington's event schedule has already been disrupted by building work to accommodate Formula One from 2010.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/News/145818/1/...l_go_ahead.html
 
thanks for the info Goatboy

i agree with rog at the mo. I cant see how they can get things in shape before the summer when their finances are in such a mess

i wait with baited breath.
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Following on from the info provided by Goatboy, sources are confirming that in respect of the Grand Prix in July, they will definitely be ready to host the race.

Apparently, Claude Denis, and Paul Butler inspected the circuit last week and have no safety concerns. The lack of run off at McCleans is only of a safety concern to the four wheel fraternity.

Frankly, I'm very dubious as to whether we'll see BSB ran here this month.

Hilariously, and what makes me very dubious about the future financial viability of the circuit, Gillet has been petitioning the government to apply pressure on none other than the RBS to provide a loan covering the rent arrears plus the circuit modifications. Here's another company that has no business being in business going cap in had to a bank that has no business being in business.

Simon Gillett meanwhile is unavailable for comment due to a Medical condition. I'll leave you to speculate what that might be..