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all rules here....

http://www.amasuperbike.com/competition/index.cfm?cid=20458

bulletins here, including the 2009-3 which gives the Buell concessions....

http://www.amasuperbike.com/competition/bulletins/

Buell forum members are proud of boasting of the hp of the new 1125 given exhaust and fi mods and have posted dyno graph. One of them also stated that the 1125R was allowed 365lb min weight for Daytona, although that is not verified in the current rules package.

As far as the Aprilia goes in this new catagory, well, the motor design in that thing is so old. It's been tweaked here and there but has been essentially the same base motor since like 2001 or 2002 I believe. I do not beleive it has ever had a complete makeover. The Buell is a complete brand new modern liquid cooled 4 valve head, over head cam motor. It should beat the Aprilia and the 600's, especially given the concesions given to it. The AMA WANTS it to win....
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jeff in ohio @ Mar 7 2009, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>all rules here....

http://www.amasuperbike.com/competition/index.cfm?cid=20458

bulletins here, including the 2009-3 which gives the Buell concessions....

http://www.amasuperbike.com/competition/bulletins/

Buell forum members are proud of boasting of the hp of the new 1125 given exhaust and fi mods and have posted dyno graph. One of them also stated that the 1125R was allowed 365lb min weight for Daytona, although that is not verified in the current rules package.

As far as the Aprilia goes in this new catagory, well, the motor design in that thing is so old. It's been tweaked here and there but has been essentially the same base motor since like 2001 or 2002 I believe. I do not beleive it has ever had a complete makeover. The Buell is a complete brand new modern liquid cooled 4 valve head, over head cam motor. It should beat the Aprilia and the 600's, especially given the concesions given to it. The AMA WANTS it to win....

http://amaproracing.com/assets/AMAPro-CompBull-2009-03.pdf
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jeff in ohio @ Mar 7 2009, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>all rules here....

http://www.amasuperbike.com/competition/index.cfm?cid=20458

bulletins here, including the 2009-3 which gives the Buell concessions....

http://www.amasuperbike.com/competition/bulletins/

Buell forum members are proud of boasting of the hp of the new 1125 given exhaust and fi mods and have posted dyno graph. One of them also stated that the 1125R was allowed 365lb min weight for Daytona, although that is not verified in the current rules package.

As far as the Aprilia goes in this new catagory, well, the motor design in that thing is so old. It's been tweaked here and there but has been essentially the same base motor since like 2001 or 2002 I believe. I do not beleive it has ever had a complete makeover. The Buell is a complete brand new modern liquid cooled 4 valve head, over head cam motor. It should beat the Aprilia and the 600's, especially given the concesions given to it. The AMA WANTS it to win....
That stupid buell is such a joke. THey allow that thing to be so far above the cc limit just so they can see that moronic looking bike on the podium. So then you have to look at when it failed in the race due to the stupid ducts off the side of the bike. Good for them since they had to deal with not winning or making the podium. I am so pissed about how that is allowed and also the aprilia which is given the same consideration. Then you have a Ducati which is only allowed to be an 848 and not at least the 1098 which is less than that of the buell. Hmmmmmmm? WHat gives? SO also think that Nasbike in the US will not last since we as a biker community do not want to give in to the dumbness that is Roger Edmonson and his plight to Nascarize our beloved sport. I am willing to bet that right now the major manufacturers are working on a WSBK style rule package for a series apart from the AMA. I hope that any of you especially the americans who are more able to watch the races will write to whomever you deem to write to and let them know how lame the sport is now that they have their bums in the driver seat.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jeff in ohio @ Mar 7 2009, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The Buell is a complete brand new modern liquid cooled 4 valve head, over head cam motor. It should beat the Aprilia and the 600's, especially given the concesions given to it. The AMA WANTS it to win....

I hate the AMA for pulling .... like this. It was great when the AMA made the Ferracci Ducati 888's increase their weight and they went faster.

This is the main reason why I don't fallow this series. It and Harley can die off for all I care.
 
I finally got around to seeing the race----really mixed bag of nuts.

Some things were hugely improved, some things look like they haven't improved at all.

1. Lighting - mediocre. It seems like some parts of the track were really bright and others were pitch black. The lighting needs improvement, but until the series can flow some cash I'm not sure the AMA is going to convince Daytona to put up additional lights in the infield. The pit lights were a cool gimmick.

2. Production quality - vastly improved. Widescreen format. Sheheen and Spencer sounded like they may have actually done a bit of show prep. Greg White was kept to a minimum. I'm a bit annoyed though at the sponsorship plugs. It appears as though many of the riders have attended the NASCAR schools for media relations and PR. White chastised Bostrom for forgetting to remove his helmet for the post race interview.
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Besides the cheesy corporate garbage it was a big step in the right direction.

3. Daytona Sportbike Class - convoluted mess. The class has TONS of potential but it needs a MotoGT rules package for hp. 130hp or 140hp max and min weight rule but no weight ratio garbage. Furthermore, if you run a bike in Sportbike it should be banned in Superbike. In other words, if you can't win in Superbike you can attempt to gain valuable data while running it in sportbike. Currently, I believe the 1125R is allowed in both classes.

Sportbike is the perfect series to reincarnate 750s vs. 1+ liter twins. No reason Honda can't bring the RC51 back, no reason Suzuki can't run a 750. Kawasaki and Yamaha can easily run 600s until the ZX7R and R7 can return.
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Ducati can run the 1098 and/or 848. Triumph can run 675 Daytona or other.

I really think the Japanese deserve 2 classes all to themselves (superbike, supersport) because they've carried the series on their backs for the last 5 years (albeit they ruined the AMA in the process). Sportbike should be the wildly entertaining moshpit that plays second fiddle to superbike.

4. Safety -
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what safety. The chicane was lined with a tire barrier?! Cardenas nearly met his maker and one of the Buell riders had to dump his bike to avoid hitting what appears to be an unnecessary barrier. Considering how dangerous the place is at night, I think they need to add a minimum pit time as well. If someone loses their front brakes in a hasty pit stop it's going to end with a funeral.

The beginning of the race was great. The middle was an unmitigated catastrophe and the ending was decent (could have been epic if Hayes didn't fall). I don't think bunching them up with the safety car was that big a deal. The first half is a war of attrition, if they bunch them up I don't have a problem with it, as long as their are no more safety car crashes.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Mar 8 2009, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't think bunching them up with the safety car was that big a deal. The first half is a war of attrition, if they bunch them up I don't have a problem with it, as long as their are no more safety car crashes.
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The way I see it, there's not much point to running a 200-mile race if you don't allow things to play out. Where's the challenge of maintaining a good pace and making the tires last when the race is broken up and the field bunched back? If the Red Sox earn an 8-point advantage over the Yankees, should MLB spot the Yanks 6 points to start the 7th-inning stretch, just to make the game more exciting?

Overall, however, I see it as a mixed bag too. Although I see slightly more negative than positive.

The crashes early in the race didn't result in FCYs, as I feared would happen. I also like the idea of everyone having access to the same level of equipment.

Just quit with the dubious race control, admit that the 1125 is NOT a Harley, and don't hand the title to the ugly Buell.
 
It's interesting to me that the Buell is sponsored by Bruce Rossmeyer who is the local Harley Dealer.
His shop is the biggest Harley dealership in the world. Every Hog rider knows exactly what brand he sells. So when you see a Buell stickered up with B.R. logos you assume it's a Harley right?
Very subtle and dubious marketing.
A lot of negatives surround the officiating and the regulations of the race. It's a shame because before and after all safety car and flag incidents the racing was excellent. There was never less than 5 guys who were in the chase for the lead. Not even WSBK can boast that. I saw a lot of deep braking and great passing coming into turn 1 from the tri oval. It was anybody's race until the end.
Even Hacking who was nowhere most of the race got into the mix with 5 to go. It's a shame Hayes went down because he was right there as well. I'm still trying to find out what happened to Zemke.
He was running just off the leaders most of the race. He suddenly just dissapeared off the leaderboard and I thought he crashed but is says he finished. I'm sure he could have made a push for the podium if he was there in the end.
Great job by Josh Herrin to steal 2nd. He hung with the lead pack most of the race but he could never seem to stay in front of Bostrom. I thought for sure in the end the veterans would push him out but he put his head down the last 2. I saw him make more passes in turn 1 than probabaly anyone all night. Turn 1 is a very fast left hander coming down from full speed. It's a thing of beauty to watch guys get outbraked there.
At one point late in the race Cardenas was leading and I was shitting my pants. Luckily he didn't last too long but he definitely gave me a scare.
I talked to Chaz Davies for a little bit before the race about the Aprilia. I asked him why he was so far down in qualifying. He told me he hasn't spent any time on the bike and then he laughed and said really he's had about an hour on the bike. I know .... about the Aprilia so I asked him if that bike was similar to what Biaggi was riding. He said that was the other problem. He was riding a Mille which like Jeff in Ohio said was a few years old. He then told me that they might get the bike Biaggi's riding sometime this summer. After the race I talked to his mechanic and he told me the engine on that bike was almost bone stock. Great job by Chaz to ride an unknown and underpowered bike to 6th place. He's a great kid. Very forthcoming and honest. No pretension or ego there.
The one thing the AMA did right was in it's pre race ceremomies. This is unprecented and just about the coolest thing I've ever seen. About 45 minutes prior to the race when all the bikes were lined up on the grid and the riders were either sitting on the bikes or to the side they let the spectators come out of the stands, walk down the banking, walk through the Supercross track and
walk right up to the riders as they were sitting or standing there. You could walk up to Bostrom sitting on pole shake his hand and wish him luck. Great ..... That's something I will never forget
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Shupe @ Mar 8 2009, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The way I see it, there's not much point to running a 200-mile race if you don't allow things to play out. Where's the challenge of maintaining a good pace and making the tires last when the race is broken up and the field bunched back? If the Red Sox earn an 8-point advantage over the Yankees, should MLB spot the Yanks 6 points to start the 7th-inning stretch, just to make the game more exciting?

Overall, however, I see it as a mixed bag too. Although I see slightly more negative than positive.

The crashes early in the race didn't result in FCYs, as I feared would happen. I also like the idea of everyone having access to the same level of equipment.

Just quit with the dubious race control, admit that the 1125 is NOT a Harley, and don't hand the title to the ugly Buell.

What's the point of endurance racing?

To me endurance racing is more about attrition, pace, and racing smarts. I say let things be for the first 40 laps. Let the silly riders with no patience toss themselves around in the grass or impatiently ram lap traffic.

If there is an episode after 40 laps, bring out the pace car, let the lap traffic bunch up behind the leaders, then let them sort it out for the last 17 laps. You can't have the lap traffic decide the Daytona 200, imo. Anything that happens with 8 or more to go, bunch em up and get the lap traffic out of the way, then don't stop the race until the checkered flag comes out.

BTW, did anyone notice the commercial break with 5 laps to go? Unforgivable. The fans have crowed more loudly about the abysmal Speed coverage than they have about the uncompetitive racing. To show a commercial with 5 to go and to miss Hayes' crash in real-time was a punch in the groin to all the fans who watched for 2 hours so they could see a good finish.

I'm inclined to say the race was a bit more negative this year, but after last year's debacle, I don't think I can say it with a clear conscience. However, I will say I'm very disappointed DMG were unable to drastically improve when the bar was set so low. For some reason or another, controversy always circulates in the AMA. Whether DMG are writing funky rules, or whether the winner is getting DQed, or a competitor is getting destroyed on a caution lap there is ALWAYS controversy.

They can't ever seem to get things running smoothly. I'll give DMG the rest of the season. If they are unable to get the major competitors and manufacturers invested in their vision, the AMA is going to be lost b/c the fans will have no choice but to give up.

I will say one very positive thing about the race. The competitors were all very committed to making positive change. The riders gave their cheesy sponsor plugs, the teams were well coordinated, and the broadcasters were trying to be professional. If everyone is committed towards the future, the recent past should stop haunting the sport.

That said, DMG must come up with transparent rules for Daytona Sportbike and they must get all of the competitors on the same page when it comes to safety procedure.
 
well i'm late to this discussion & have not read anyones replies. i'm sure that most of you have said in detail the way i see this race. i'll keep it short... the pace car ........ is a ...... joke!!! plain & simple! nasbike all the way
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the buell what a joke. they give it a big advantage & the thing falls apart 1/3 the way thru the race
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. having to wait to see the superbike race....... what a ...... bunch of morons!!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Mar 8 2009, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What's the point of endurance racing?

To me endurance racing is more about attrition, pace, and racing smarts. I say let things be for the first 40 laps. Let the silly riders with no patience toss themselves around in the grass or impatiently ram lap traffic.

If there is an episode after 40 laps, bring out the pace car, let the lap traffic bunch up behind the leaders, then let them sort it out for the last 17 laps. You can't have the lap traffic decide the Daytona 200, imo. Anything that happens with 8 or more to go, bunch em up and get the lap traffic out of the way, then don't stop the race until the checkered flag comes out.

Why essentially nullify the first part of the race by setting up a "run to the checkers"? I think it's far more impressive for a racer to get the whole thing right, instead of staying in the game for 40 laps and waiting for the leaders to be brought back to him with 10 to go. Not only does this stink of cheap "racertainment," but it also partially obscures the effectiveness of the rules. How can we really know if DMG's rules have created good competition, when the field is hardly allowed the chance to spread out anyway?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Shupe @ Mar 9 2009, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why essentially nullify the first part of the race by setting up a "run to the checkers"? I think it's far more impressive for a racer to get the whole thing right, instead of staying in the game for 40 laps and waiting for the leaders to be brought back to him with 10 to go. Not only does this stink of cheap "racertainment," but it also partially obscures the effectiveness of the rules. How can we really know if DMG's rules have created good competition, when the field is hardly allowed the chance to spread out anyway?

I dunno. I don't really have a dog in this fight. I dislike cheesy gimmicks designed to artificially create the appearance of good racing. At the same time, I hate lap traffic playing a major role in race results.

I think a 60 bike field on a 3 mile circuit requires pace car intervention (in the event of a crash) to clear lap traffic out of the way of the front runners for the final sprint to the line.

If they raise the qualification requirements for the race and reduce the lap traffic, they should let 'em go from start to finish without unnecessary interruption like they do in sprint races.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Shupe @ Mar 9 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why essentially nullify the first part of the race by setting up a "run to the checkers"? I think it's far more impressive for a racer to get the whole thing right, instead of staying in the game for 40 laps and waiting for the leaders to be brought back to him with 10 to go. Not only does this stink of cheap "racertainment," but it also partially obscures the effectiveness of the rules. How can we really know if DMG's rules have created good competition, when the field is hardly allowed the chance to spread out anyway?

Im with you,i am fed up with fake racing for entertainment purposes.Like you said,what is the purpose of having a 200 mile race if you are not going to let it play out.If you like the sprints,and you think the customer likes the sprints,why even have a 20-25 lap race,just run 3 seperate 7-8 lap races per event and award points for each dash..Now somebody answer me a question.What is wrong when a roadrace is considered boring if a guy or a couple of guys break away and leave the field. That has been the MO for Supercross as long as i can remember. Mcgrath,Carmichael,Reed,Stewart, they are or where always miles ahead of the competition but no one seems to mind and they are wildly successful. Anything but letting it play out is manipulation and at that point becomes just another reality TV show.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Mar 9 2009, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Im with you,i am fed up with fake racing for entertainment purposes.Like you said,what is the purpose of having a 200 mile race if you are not going to let it play out.If you like the sprints,and you think the customer likes the sprints,why even have a 20-25 lap race,just run 3 seperate 7-8 lap races per event and award points for each dash..Now somebody answer me a question.What is wrong when a roadrace is considered boring if a guy or a couple of guys break away and leave the field. That has been the MO for Supercross as long as i can remember. Mcgrath,Carmichael,Reed,Stewart, they are or where always miles ahead of the competition but no one seems to mind and they are wildly successful. Anything but letting it play out is manipulation and at that point becomes just another reality TV show.

When you have a race like Daytona with 30-50 bikes circulating like moving chicanes, it makes the race appear as though it is more about luck and good breaks than it is about skill and determination.

Obviously, only a handful of riders have the skills/equipment necessary to let luck boost them into the lead, but after seeing how many people were on pace at the end, it certainly indicated to me that a majority of the gap between the top riders was caused by interference from lap traffic.

Opposing pace car intervention is no big deal b/c it's a matter of individual preference, but there is no moral imperative. They aren't cheapening the sport by giving the leaders a clear track to the checkered flag.

If Hayes had gone down in a lap traffic incident, people (most importantly teams and sponsors) probably would have been even more upset with the end result.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Mar 9 2009, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I dunno. I don't really have a dog in this fight. I dislike cheesy gimmicks designed to artificially create the appearance of good racing. At the same time, I hate lap traffic playing a major role in race results.

I think a 60 bike field on a 3 mile circuit requires pace car intervention (in the event of a crash) to clear lap traffic out of the way of the front runners for the final sprint to the line.

If they raise the qualification requirements for the race and reduce the lap traffic, they should let 'em go from start to finish without unnecessary interruption like they do in sprint races.

You have a good point with lap traffic intervention, although I see it from a safety point of view. Wouldn't want fast bikes to tangle with the pro/am guys on the banking or in the exit of turn 1, where the bikes are pointed at the armco!

Getting through traffic is one of the skills necessary for success in endurance racing. When on safer tracks, I think riders should be rewarded for out-performing their rivals when the backmarkers begin to mix with the front. Patience and deciveness are rewarded greatly.

As for having a dog in the fight, I'm with you on the DMG concept: I want it to work as well. We can only benefit if Edmondson rescues AMA road racing. Balancing different machines for privateer racing has created some great championships for cars (e.g. GT3), I would like to see it work for bikes and give us a unique championship here. If I want to see WSBK, I'll watch WSBK!
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I really can't begin to say how disappointed I am with this series. I won't be making my trip to Road America this summer to see these guys. I won't waste every third Saturday night watching AMA Pro Live on SPEED. I probably won't even torrent the Superbike races, unless I read in advance that Bostrom won a thriller. I just don't care about the AMA anymore. This series is some mutant cross breed of NASCAR and road racing, and it is exactly what I was afraid of.

The number one thing that had me irate while watching the race (note I only watched about halfway through before I shut it off out of frustration) was Buell. What an absolute joke. The AMA has been trying to make Harley and Buell competitive for years by giving them capacity but it has never been so obvious as it is now. In the opening parts of the race, Eslick just left Bostrom as soon as he stood the bike up only for Boz to reel him in through the tight bits. I can't imagine how frustrating that must have been as a rider. It was an absolute shame. It's just sick. There are guys like Bostrom, Hacking, Hayes, Zemke and Disalvo, the biggest names in the class, Superbike champions, factory WSBK riders, WSS riders, 125 riders, guys with top shelf pedigrees doing everything they possibly can for this series, to save road racing in this country. And what do they get for their troubles? DMG throwing it in their face. "No thanks, we'd rather a 'Harley' won it." And so some of the most respected names in American road racing have to put up with a fight with some burnout who never made it on a bike with twice the capacity, same weight, more aftermarket parts, more torque and more horsepower. Absolutely disgusting.

Then the lighting. I wonder what kind of threats were made to riders about commenting on the dangers of the lighting. Early in the weekend (excuse me, early in the week. Heaven forbid bikes race when opening practice for the NASCAR Trucks series starts), I read a few quotes from Bostrom and Hacking saying that the lighting was a little sketchy in a few areas. After that, nothing at all. Except that ...... bag moderator in all the press conferences constantly referring to BBoz as a rock star for riding at night under the lights. What a well thought out plan this was:

"Well ...., Cletus. These modersickle fans sure seem to like that there racing in the dark that they do over there in the desert with all them A-rabs. And we done been racing our NASCAR series under the lights for years. ...., I'm pretty sure that Daytona even gots some ah dem lights from the Pepsi 400 we been runnin' every summer. You mean to tell me that the Daytona Supercross round has been run under the lights for more than a decade? Well why don't we just use the lights we got and do this thing at night?!?!"

There were a lot of dark spots out there. It didn't look half as bright as Qatar. Well except when they were on the banking, but that doesn't surprise me. After all, that's the area the engineers intended to light, not the infield.

And the "safety" car? What can I say? I always laughed at NASCAR for the full course cautions. I understand that you can't safely clear the track of debris without them but the frequency that they are thrown is comical. "There was a spin in turn three but the driver didn't touch the wall and recovered? Hmmm. Well the leader is about .8 in front and the field is a little spread out, better throw the caution." Thanks a lot Roger, I really wanted my professional motorcycle racing turned into professional wrestling.

I'm done with the AMA. I'll bide my time until the MIC forms their own series with WSBK rules and there will be no one left in the DMG except NASCAR and Buell. Good luck kids, I'm out.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Mar 9 2009, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>When you have a race like Daytona with 30-50 bikes circulating like moving chicanes, it makes the race appear as though it is more about luck and good breaks than it is about skill and determination.

Obviously, only a handful of riders have the skills/equipment necessary to let luck boost them into the lead, but after seeing how many people were on pace at the end, it certainly indicated to me that a majority of the gap between the top riders was caused by interference from lap traffic.

Opposing pace car intervention is no big deal b/c it's a matter of individual preference, but there is no moral imperative. They aren't cheapening the sport by giving the leaders a clear track to the checkered flag.

If Hayes had gone down in a lap traffic incident, people (most importantly teams and sponsors) probably would have been even more upset with the end result.

The majority of the gaps were caused by pit times,not lapped riders. Cautions that bunch up the field are ........ and takes strategy out of an Endurance race. Back when they raced 1000's Mladin went with a totally different strategy than everyone else.He did an extra stop but his thought process was that new tires were so much faster per lap,he could make up the extra pit and more.It worked.Stuff like that is out the window when you throw the flag to manipulate the action.The only way i would ever say that was to go is if they went to the old combined times rule. I know some people hated it but it was fair..As far as lapped riders,they are a part of racing,every form of motor racing.Like Shupe said,getting through traffic is a skill and sometime makes the finish a lot better than it would be otherwise.I agree that there was way to many bikes on the grid for the 200. Does anyone know if they had a % rule for the 200 and what was it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Mar 9 2009, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Cautions that bunch up the field are ........ and takes strategy out of an Endurance race.

That's Nascar for ya
 
The Buell hasn't even won a race and it's alread the the downfall of the AMA?
Let's wait and see how it plays out. Austin you yourself said the Buell couldn't hang in the corners.
Newsflash, most American tracks are short and twisty. I don't see that bike with that rider finishing inside the top 5 very often. Since when was a Buell anywhere near in handling compared to the Japs.
You can't throw this safety car problem on DMG's lap either. It's been there for quite some time.
This race is unique in the fact that it fields 80 riders. It'n never been the pace car that's the problem it's always been race direction misinforming the pace car where it should go and creating mass confusion as to where everyone should be. I watched AMA officials go from bike to bike under the red flag to try to put everyone where they should line. This is a tedious process that takes time.
I would rather see a safety car that gets it right rather than stopping and waiting a half hour to reset the grid and than yellow flag it again because of a melee in turn 1.
This whole "AMA sucks it's turning into Nascar "is a knee jerk reaction. I think it's going to be fun seeing if the smaller bikes are able to beat the Buell every week. I also think it's going to be interesting to see how Eslick can withstand the pressure of going into each week with the so called advantage. He's a talented kid who's had his moments but has never shined. Now is his time.
Besides who in AMA backs it in better than him?
Go ahead and watch WSBK and tell me it's a better series. I watched all last year and there was never any doubt who the winner was going to be in the end. Sure it was pretty good racing but most of the races Bayliss checked out with 4 to go.
Last week wasn't much different. Good racing but in the end Spies checked out with a few to go.
What I saw at Daytona was about as much passing as a 125 or 250 race. If it keeps this pace up which it surely has the potential to do than quit watching but it's only your loss.
BTW with this ...... economy it still was a record crowd that showed up for the 200
 

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