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Championship battle

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I read this article in Gazzeta dello Sport. Accoriding to them Rossi has the best chances to win it...i'll post here a translation of the article here... sorry for any mistakes...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>The sphere says Rossi Two GP at the end: we analyse the iridescent percentages of 5 pilots at a run. It is favoured, Hayden first alternative, Melandri and Capirossi with the handicap heads, Pedrosa almost outside.
MILAN, on September 25 2006 - A challenge for five, with two alone competitions to discuss before the most beautiful Worldwide one concludes. The MotoGP files the rendezvous of Motegi with a classification that Hayden sees 27 anchors to the order, with 12 points on Red, on Melandri, 31 on Capirossi and 34 on Pedrosa. On October 15 it is run to Estoril, 29 of the same month to Valencia. Where, except for a (improbable) miracle aside of the present iridescent leader in Portugal, will one find us again to see how it goes finishing. We do the papers to 5 protagonists remained at a run, in order of classification.
HAYDEN - In falling phase of quite a lot, nevertheless always remains " clung at the match ", to use a tennis expression. Supposed better to Valencia that to Estoril, American has a despairing need of without making eat too many points in Portugal then to think (it that he succeeds well) in the last competition. His Honda is very reliable, he has asked of arranging the clutch for better departures. Iridescent possibilities: 30 %.
Rossi - it Has reassembled to big falcate at-51 after the withdrawal of Lagoon Seca to present-12. The strongest from the psychologic point of view and for the imagination that can lead in a final duel. Contrarily to Hayden, It Is worth to the Estoril has more arrows to his arch that not to Valencia. But the only one is perhaps in degree of winning both GP. His Yamaha must not do mechanical jokes as in the first half of the year. Iridescent possibilities: 40 %.
MELANDRI - Apart from the indecision between Honda and Ducati in sight of 2007, Mark is very well placed at mental level. It has not to lose too much, has already received little helps from the House of Tokyo and to Valencia it has already won one year does. Moreover, the competition of Phillip Island has demonstrated that on wetted it goes strongly, and the Atlantic Portuguese coast often presents rain. Moreover 27 points to recover are not little. Iridescent possibilities: 15 %.
CAPIROSSI - Can complain quite a lot on the crash at Barcelona but also on the Australian rain: if his delay transformed the 7th place of Phillip Island into a 2nd one (and on the paper it could win) to this hour at Hayden's it would belong 20 points. The Ducati there is, but for the GP that lack there is also the unknown from the rubbers Bridgestone. To favour of Loris his grinta of combatant, also in difficult situations. Iridescent possibilities: 10 %.
PEDROSA - Up to Sepang seemed put better than Hayden, also in the internal hierarchies of the Hrc. Then the Malay fall, with the consequences discounted in Australia and Japan, has thrown it out back in the Worldwide one. The stop can help it to be replaced in sixth physically but it cannot return to him the points left for road. And freely a detaching of 34 points, with 4 pilots to unhorse, puts it a little outside at the games. Iridescent possibilities: 5 %.

http://www.gazzetta.it/Motori/Motomondiale.../bilancio.shtml

So in your view who and and what are the chances for this five riders that are mathematical perspective challengers to the title?

Hayden - he has the lead...can he defend it? in my view he will win it only if he finishes in front of rossi in points at least once 40%
Rossi - has a great form...if M1 runs well i can't see a reason to stop rossi from taking home another trophy... 40%
Melandri .... super form... still 27 points is a long shoot: 8%
Capirossi... if bridgestones works and a miracle happens he could pull this off 7%
Pedrosa valencia will be a race where he will fight to perform good because is another home race for him...Sepang crash distroyed his chances to a title in his rookie year 5%

For me only hayden and rossi will count in the title clash...i say they have equal chances so bring on estoril...
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Mathematicall 5 riders can win it. Realistically only 2 do, Rossi and Hayden.

Neither of the riders have Estoril on the top of their lists but traditionally Rossi has fared better than Hayden at Estoril.

At Valencia they both run well but as we saw last year Rossi has a much faster pace than anyone out there!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capirex @ Sep 28 2006, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I read this article in Gazzeta dello Sport. Accoriding to them Rossi has the best chances to win it...i'll post here a translation of the article here... sorry for any mistakes...

http://www.gazzetta.it/Motori/Motomondiale.../bilancio.shtml

So in your view who and and what are the chances for this five riders that are mathematical perspective challengers to the title?

Hayden - he has the lead...can he defend it? in my view he will win it only if he finishes in front of rossi in points at least once 40%
Rossi - has a great form...if M1 runs well i can't see a reason to stop rossi from taking home another trophy... 40%
Melandri .... super form... still 27 points is a long shoot: 8%
Capirossi... if bridgestones works and a miracle happens he could pull this off 7%
Pedrosa valencia will be a race where he will fight to perform good because is another home race for him...Sepang crash distroyed his chances to a title in his rookie year 5%

For me only hayden and rossi will count in the title clash...i say they have equal chances so bring on estoril...
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I say rossi. not just cause I like him but he wont let go of a challenge to win it . and its another record to win all 990cc championships WOW ! what a feather for his yellow camel hat.

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Thing is, for Rossi to win it he's got to rely on Hayden having some bad finishes. I think the deciding factor in who wins this championship will be where Hayden finishes, not Rossi. Because Rossi's just been consistently up there lately, so I think you can count on him being up there. It's up to Hayden's results to decide this championship. If he does well, he wins, if he does bad, he loses. Whereas with Rossi it's more like if he does bad, he loses, if he does good and Hayden does good, he loses, but if he does good and Hayden does bad, he wins. If anyone can do it, it's Rossi, but he's still the one who's behind in the points, and even if he wins both races, if Nicky comes second, Rossi still loses. It's in Nick's hands now, Question is, will he drop it or not?

I'd like to see him win it, but at the same time I'm twitching like an obsessive compulsive person because part of my brain is telling me things would look cleaner on paper if Rossi was the only man ever to win a 990 title.
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In the end, I think Rossi's going to come through, even though I'd like Nicky to win.
 
You know, I'm not a major fan of Nicky, but I'd like him to silence his critics and win the championship.

The thing is, its motogp, as this season has been the best since I started watching it, so to predict what will happen at the next two races is impossible! Its all very well looking at statistics and %'s etc...........but those that follow GP's, know that these go out the window when the bikes line up on the grid - its unpredictable and I like it like that!

I know one thing for sure, we are about to witness two extremley exciting races. I just hope that it boils down to Valencia, the last chance saloon!

Those that are going, I envy you...................anyone need someone to carry their bags
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It will end in Valencia, unless Rossi falls and Hayden takes more than 13, which is top 6 I think. Considering the fact that Rossi hasn't had a DNF in a long time, safe to assume its going down to the wire.
 
Even if Nicky wins the championship he wont silence the critics. They will say he didn't deserve it because he didn't win many races. Nicky will never get any respect unless he becomes more dominant than Rossi race after race.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doctor @ Sep 29 2006, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Even if Nicky wins the championship he wont silence the critics. They will say he didn't deserve it because he didn't win many races. Nicky will never get any respect unless he becomes more dominant than Rossi race after race.

See, the thing many people forget (not implying you Doc!), is that MotoGP is a team sport, the rider & bike are just a small cog in the wheel. What Hayden & his team have done well, is provide a package that is reliable and fast. Nicky is one of the most consistent dudes on the grid, and thats why he is sitting on top of the championship table! Rossi has had troubles yes, but isnt that all part of the game - isnt that why we have a constructors championship too? Nicky has kept his nose clean, which is a miracle this season, considering what incidents other riders have been in.

Like I said, I dont particular like Nicky - but no one can tell me if he wins the championship that he doesnt deserve it - thats absolutley ridiculous!

At the end of the day, points mean prizes............and Hayden has a big bag of points, and its bigger than Valentino's!

Having said that, he does need to mix it up at the front more, but thats not what I'm debating here.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BEN @ Sep 29 2006, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>See, the thing many people forget (not implying you Doc!), is that MotoGP is a team sport, the rider & bike are just a small cog in the wheel. What Hayden & his team have done well, is provide a package that is reliable and fast. Nicky is one of the most consistent dudes on the grid, and thats why he is sitting on top of the championship table! Rossi has had troubles yes, but isnt that all part of the game - isnt that why we have a constructors championship too? Nicky has kept his nose clean, which is a miracle this season, considering what incidents other riders have been in.

Like I said, I dont particular like Nicky - but no one can tell me if he wins the championship that he doesnt deserve it - thats absolutley ridiculous!

At the end of the day, points mean prizes............and Hayden has a big bag of points, and its bigger than Valentino's!

Having said that, he does need to mix it up at the front more, but thats not what I'm debating here.

Maybe its not the right word to say he doesn't deserve it, but looking at it from a different angle: the constructors title is as much a credit to Nicky as would be the rider championship because it is too based from race points scored. His great run of consistency this season clearly contributed to Honda getting that title this year....as the Yamaha was clearly a piece of ......... I think the debacle comes when you try to evaluate in your head that the "champion" should be the most skilled rider AND the number one points scoring man in the season. But this is where you have the divide....what is the definition of champion.......I think Rossi rode with heart this year....after each failure he got back up and kept swingin'.....Nicky had a great machine this year, but didn't really blow my hair back with top results, that is....most of his top results were the outcome of others follies....victories true, but not on his own. Rossi had to make the opportunities...and fight real hard.....which is the act of a champion in MY mind. Because of that.....this year, if Nicky were to win.....in my mind he'd be the numerical champion.....a champion YES...deserving YES....but was he the most skilled and courageous rider in the "World" championship....I would say no.
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Perhaps we should abandon the points system and make the rider with the most wins at the end of the season the world champion.
 
Correct me if I'm mistaken but I think F1 or MotoGP (O'm not sure) used to have the championship declared like that.

I think it was Surtees when he switched over to F1 it was declared like that. F1 then most likely. 5 points to whoever corrects me.
 
I'm just gonnda say this: Who"desreved" the title last year, The guy with the good bike and the good luck, or the guy who got knocked off the track at the first round then suffered numerous bike problems all year?

Remarkable how similar the circumstances are, eh?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Sep 29 2006, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Perhaps we should abandon the points system and make the rider with the most wins at the end of the season the world champion.
Nah...if that were the case Dantin, Rizla and Kawi would be "tied" for last place...and we simply can't have that....and obviously Laguna wins would have to count for extra.....
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Sep 29 2006, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Remarkable how similar the circumstances are, eh?
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Remarkable is truly the word.....
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Sep 29 2006, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nicky had a great machine this year, but didn't really blow my hair back with top results, that is....most of his top results were the outcome of others follies....victories true, but not on his own. Rossi had to make the opportunities...and fight real hard.....which is the act of a champion in MY mind. Because of that.....this year, if Nicky were to win.....in my mind he'd be the numerical champion.....a champion YES...deserving YES....but was he the most skilled and courageous rider in the "World" championship....I would say no.
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Sometimes somebody says something that totally sums up a very complex situation, this is one of those times. Nice one Doc.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skidmark @ Sep 30 2006, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sometimes somebody says something that totally sums up a very complex situation, this is one of those times. Nice one Doc.

yup. Nice on Doc!
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Btw, loved that avatar
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win or loose by points.... Rossi is still the champ.... love ya Nick, but sorry.

if you wanna be the man...you have to beat the man...
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Following Richo's idea, it's getting harder for Nicky to do well in the last races.

The Melandris, Pedrosas and Capirossis have won races here and there and they have nothing to lose. They keep their hunger for wins intact, if not bigger.

Rossi can handle so much traffic; in fact it plays into his hands. Maybe next time Nicky kid.
 

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