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Catlunya Race Talk - Spoiler

Did anyone see how stable the Duke was in the long turns? Methinks it has something to do with the slightly longer wheelbase.

Back On-Topic.

WHAT A RACE!!! I was on the edge of my seat for the last 5 laps, was slightly peeved Rossi was in front and Stoner was always getting him back on the straight, but a great race non-theless.

Stoner is turning into a better rider race by race.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Jun 10 2007, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yes im fully aware of that but stoners ducati is setup is perfect for him,
rossi is still trying to get his bike where he wants it to be i dont see the perfect harmony yet with rossi and his bike as i do for stoner and his bike, i just wish he could have his yam as suited to him as his honda was.
hopefully he will get his ideal setup soon cos he needs it

and dont start having a go at me cos ill poke u in the eye with a plastic fork lol.

yes i know stoner is good rider and i know he deserved his win today.

vale 4607:

i get what ur sayin i know rossi didnt pass on the last lap , anyway awesome race
hi jazkat., i no where your coming from mate, that ducati sure does fly down the straight and it does look like an advantage for them, but did you see the gap rossis yam was pulling out of the bends on stoners bike which was an advantage for them. its all about ballance and strategy and to be honest i did not expect the doctor to get anywhere at mugello or catalunya but he had a first and second respectivly so alls looking pretty good for a championship battle . dont worry mate theres plenty of twisty races left this season for the doctor to come good.
p[ete mate aq great point about not everyone can ride the fastest bike,like doohan on the 500 screemer so credit where its due, but what a race, anybody who calls that boring has no soul.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Jun 10 2007, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's quite obvious the Ducati ain't winning the races for Casey, because just look were the rest of Dukes are, NOWHERE. How many other riders have won races with this bike? NONE.

I do the same question for Yamaha. How many other riders have won races with this bike? NONE!

And Capirossi is better than Edwards.

By the way, look at Pramac. Best results ever. Desmosedici is no doubt a Winning bike, D16 GP7 is the more dinamic bike in motogp padock.
Best aerodynamic, best engine, best eletronics, best brakes, nice frame.

What more is needed? GP7 is by far the best. But, someone need rides it. Stoner is shinning, he really like that bike and that bike dress Stoner like a cloth.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Jun 10 2007, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>About Kawasaki:
HALELUYA!!! I think this is the best bike Kawasaki has built during the MotoGP era, I know Nakano managed a couple of podiums but it was either under wet condition or Bridgestone sanctuaries.
IMO they just need a top rider to be a regular podium finisher.
GO KAWA!!!!!!!!
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Oh yeah! Nice Kawasaki, Kawa is stunning this season, i am cheering for them go better!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>I do the same question for Yamaha. How many other riders have won races with this bike? NONE!

That's why they're even!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>And Capirossi is better than Edwards.
Well Edwards got a podium in this Yamaha and believes it's the best bike meanwhile Capirossi is changing engines in his Duke because he's totally lost!
Doesn't seem to say much in favour of the Duke vs the Yamaha
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Jun 10 2007, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That's why they're even!
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Yeah, but Rossi is filling this bike gap between Yama and Duke.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Jun 11 2007, 12:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>About the Hondas:
I completely disagree with Vale4607, IMO today proved the RCV212 is a pice of ..... Despite having improved the top speed (only of the HRC and Melandri's bike) it's still embarrasingly slow and now furthermore it's got reliability issues.

Checa finished 17th out of the points, Nakano 15th, World Champion Nicky 11th, Melandri 9th .... Only Pedrosa managed a good result and IMO that's just because he's a ....... genious and at home he rode the wheels off that junk.

That's true. The thing looked like a nail. It didn't want to go fast. I was expecting Pedrosa to fall back, but he kept up with those other two lunatics. Impressive stuff.

....... Stoner rode like all hell! He's like Elias, except he's consisent and he dosen't live in an asylum. I swaer to god if I didn't hate him, I'd like him. But what can you do? I keep trying to play down his performances, but it just gets harder and harder. Hats off to Stoner, not many can ride with Rossi the way he did today...... ........
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These young guns really aren't scared of Rossi are they? I mean apart from the fact that guys like Elais, Stoner and Pedrosa are young and fresh, the first year they raced with Rossi is the year he dosen't win. They must have been thinking "What's all the fuss about?" Today's a prime example. Rossi's classic tactic of letting the leader feel comfortable then hitting them hard in the last few laps. Only problem was stoner bit back. He bit back hard. And with Pedrosa snapping at his heels every time Rossi made the slightest mistake... what an awsome race. No one rode perfectly, but that's what made it so damn good!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Jun 10 2007, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well Edwards got a podium in this Yamaha and believes it's the best bike meanwhile Capirossi is changing engines in his Duke because he's totally lost!
Doesn't seem to say much in favour of the Duke vs the Yamaha
Loris got also a podium at turkey with that Duke ....and he raced this weekend with the normal engine spec ...
 
Damn! didn't watch the race and what a disappointment... i think Rossi doesn't have a chance against Stoner, hope i'm wrong
 
Today, I saw something that I've never seen before, and this was after the race was over. After Valentino gave his comments of the race, he sat motion less, and looked stunned. I was as if you could read his mind saying "what the f!@# can I do to stop Stoner?"

Another great race and there is elven more to go.
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God, I love this sport!!!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ganz @ Jun 10 2007, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Damn! didn't watch the race and what a disappointment... i think Rossi doesn't have a chance against Stoner, hope i'm wrong

Yeah, you're wrong.

This time Rossi's bike shone, Rossi's tires shone and himself shone. But someone there shone more than Rossi and his package: Stoner!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gui22a @ Jun 10 2007, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, you're wrong.

This time Rossi's bike shone, Rossi's tires shone and himself shone. But someone there shone more than Rossi and his package: Stoner!
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You're being ironic or what?
 
Now that's what I call A RACE. Fantastic race with two fantastic riders in the front. Equally impressive job of both. Rossi for trying so hard, and making passes on Stoner despite the Ducati power avantage. Stoner for being so cold. Every time in the hairpin he were able to change line and shoot ahead at the exit. But most of all for being able to hang on to Rossi through the corners on the two laps Rossi was in the front from turn one.

Stoners day today, Rossis tomorrow. There is quite som time to the next track with any long straights.

The Yamaha vs Ducati discussion is a dfferent matter to me. The Ducati has a power advantage. That is the only fact we got so far.
Well, except Ducati leading every point table.
We can speculate in the rest. Allthough I guess the yamaha is better in the turns the real question should be:
How many hours would it take Rossi's team to make that package complete?
To me it looks like one of Stoners huge talents are throttle controll. Despite todays electronics Capirex can't handle it, while Stoner certainly can.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ganz @ Jun 10 2007, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You're being ironic or what?

No, it's true mate, Rossi, Stoner and Pedrosa was racing with equals pace.

It was an incredible race, it pays off watch it again.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gui22a @ Jun 10 2007, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No, it's true mate, Rossi, Stoner and Pedrosa was racing with equals pace.

It was an incredible race, it pays off watch it again.

Well, i hope i'll watch the race, because everybody says it was electric
 
GREAT RACE!!!

(even if not the result i actually wanted!!!)
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From that race you have to say all the top 3 bikes have pretty much sorted out their problems. There was nothing wrong with that ducati around the corners and honda with Pedrosa actually set the fastest top speed in the race i think (although in tow) but it shows they have closed that gap and yamaha can now stay with the ducati when in the tow that is!

any one of them could have won it but it was Stoner's day and congrats to him!

Aside from the top 3 good to see Loris doing well 6th from 17th on grid, isnt bad. also De Puniet should get injured more often if it makes him ride like that!!!
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Wow... I only managed to remain in my couch for five minutes out of the whole race...Big bravo to Casey for staying focused and not making the mistake. It must have been tough not to spin the Desmo in the last four laps. He obviously had that back tire lit up...And Valentino was the perfect sportsman, he gets all my respect for the way he fought in this race.
 
Fantastic race!!!

Well done Stoner!!! No mistakes and good pressure handling (it look like there's no pressure at all). Completely deserved!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vale4607 @ Jun 10 2007, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>...Capirossi as disappointing as ever.

From 17th to 6th... I don't think that bad at all.

What a man RDP!! He rides better when he's injured.
 
race of the season for me. absolute top drawer.
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it's good to see all five manufacturers having bikes running up at the front. Casey was faultless (again), Rossi pushed him all the way and Pedrosa is certainly geting back to form. It's all good.

Would just like to see Suzuki & Kawasaki bridge that little gap to the front 3 (manufacturers) and i think we'll be heading for the best season yet.

still wouldn't like to bet ££ on who's going to take the title.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skidmark @ Jun 10 2007, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You're not wrong!
I gotta disagree there, that's so NOT what happened today.

oh come on learn how to read - top speed ducati 317-320 kmh, top speedfast as the ducati - yamaha 300-308 kmh - is thst supposed to say the yam is as fast as the ducati - or what??????? stoner's turned into a good rider, stacks better than nh & pedrosa - but the crap in his interview "we didn't have a straight line top speed advantage" what do you call it then when he comes out of turn 1,
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2 bike lengths back - turns on the gas and in a straight line drag - the sort of stunt that requires the least skill - sails by rossi, who can only try to compensate by braking later. if having a bike that goes faster in a straight line isn't straight line top speed advantage, then what the f... is it then? the only answer will be for yamaha to pull their finger out and find some more power - or vale starts talking to ducati now for 2008
 
yeah pretty good race today, although for some reason, and this is of course my opinion only, it lacked a certain "drama." I don't even know exactly what I mean, but while there were some cool passes, it just lacked a certain excitement...maybe there weren't enough crashes or close calls...
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Anyway, Stoner is really impressive. This is exactly the type of race in which Sete (at least post 2004) would have crashed, run wide on the last lap, or had some unbelievable mishap...

For the Americans here, what did you guys think of CBS' coverage? I thought Schwantz and the other guy (Medders?) SUCKED. Their commentary was so boring and pointless.

You Euro's are lucky you have such great, commercial-free coverage, and exciting, knowledgeable announcers.
 

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