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Casey ran corner one, said he came out of the slipstream hot. How did Dovi ruin his race?
after Pedrosa's mistake, i looked to Casey behind Lorenzo, and it looked exiting, but before anything was happened, Dovi found a chance and overtook Casey, and that imo changed the race. of cource Dovi did what every racer does, but i knew he was no match for Horhay. so i wished he didn't overtake Stoner at that moment, maybe then we could watch a battle between them.
I think Dovi has speed so seeing him at the front didn't really seem unusual to me. But, yes, credit for having the measure of Lorenzo at home. Not an easy task even if you don't make it to the checkered flag.
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MDub, you ok?
No, seriously.
Seems someone may have hacked your account or you are running a temp as to me it reads as if you are paying a compliment (well maybe) to Stoner here by saying that he admitted a mistake, something many say that he does not and cannot do
Although in honesty, the misjudgement is exactly the way I saw it - nobody to blame but himself.
I joking with ya MdUB - I know that you can admit when CS does something right - although it was you who sent him chocolates for his birthday wasn't it?
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Was thinking exactly the same!!
Go "Skid Kids"
On a serious note. I reckon both Yoshi and Aki did a great job. Again Stoners talk had its place. Anyone who thinks otherwise ( Rog. the Butercup Pansy Fruitcake Wimp Sook Rear Braker as an example
A race full of Rog's, Arab's etc would be like chip and Dale, at each corner Skidding to a great dramatic stop and insisting "no you go first - no YOU go first"
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Can you direct me to that exact quote Chopper? I didn't see anything that harsh published anywhere. Interesting if he did actually say that though.
And has he actually kicked anyone's bike at all? And pretty much at least a few other riders echoed his exact sentiment. And what can they fine him for? At least he's not some sort of autonomous robot that sits in the corner waiting for his manager to tell him what to do.
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Q: You and Dani both ran off at Turn 1, and then you had difficulty making up that time, and perhaps you thought you could have. Are you worried at all about the comfortable gap that Jorge seems to have at most tracks now?
Casey Stoner: Normally, when people win races, they're faster, you know, and you can understand that they're a lot faster. In the last two or three races, I haven't seen Jorge be unbelievably fast, he's just been consistent. And this is the difference, this is where he's doing the job; everyone's making mistakes around him, but consistency-wise is where he's getting it from, just being able to do the same thing. I don't think he has to push his machinery as hard as others do, maybe. But yeah, everybody's just trying to make up the difference with that.
But say, when, say, Valentino wins races, you know why he's fast, you know why he's out there pulling a gap. Jorge's able just to pull a very small amount each lap, and reel off a lot of consistent ones. So in Assen, without the arm pump, I believe I can stay there; in this race, without a stupid mistake, we were the same. So you know it's only in Silverstone that it's completely unknown, because we got such a bad start it was impossible to understand.
Completely agree with CS analysis about Lorenzo, it seems that he can maintain his pace for full race where others start struggling in last 5 or 10 laps.
Casey Stoner: Normally, when people win races, they're faster, you know, and you can understand that they're a lot faster. In the last two or three races, I haven't seen Jorge be unbelievably fast, he's just been consistent. And this is the difference, this is where he's doing the job; everyone's making mistakes around him, but consistency-wise is where he's getting it from, just being able to do the same thing. I don't think he has to push his machinery as hard as others do, maybe. But yeah, everybody's just trying to make up the difference with that.
But say, when, say, Valentino wins races, you know why he's fast, you know why he's out there pulling a gap. Jorge's able just to pull a very small amount each lap, and reel off a lot of consistent ones. So in Assen, without the arm pump, I believe I can stay there; in this race, without a stupid mistake, we were the same. So you know it's only in Silverstone that it's completely unknown, because we got such a bad start it was impossible to understand.
Completely agree with CS analysis about Lorenzo, it seems that he can maintain his pace for full race where others start struggling in last 5 or 10 laps.
it was in an interview on BBC tv after quali i believe and see below that he said in that interview!!!!!
After quali. "Everyone seems intent on stuffing me up," Stoner said. "They look behind, see you coming and still don't get out of the way ... I'm ready to put someone in a wall, I'm getting sick and tired of it. It's part of racing tactics, but what goes around comes around."
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WOw!! I must admit I have never heard the Queen say that!, I can see why you guys feel safe on your couches now, thank heavens you don't have evil naughty bad mans like Casey Stoner around you, why the whole town would fall over in shock
What a load of whingeing
Wah waahhhhh wahh , naughty bad Casey Stoner waah wahhhh
Racing and passion ....... get used to it
And it appears that no matter how much sooking and whingeing about him you do, he's never going to appease your pain ....... so ....... live with it., or cop the stress you are creating for yourself
I was hoping that when Stoner and later Dovi was behind Lorenzo they was going to do a Rossi a la Laguna and just keep trying to stuff it up the inside with a block pass and try to break Lorenzo's rhythm. Unfortunately it wasn't to be. I don't think Stoner has the confidence in his bike just yet to try on the limit moves. I think though that this tactic will pay dividends against Lorenzo as I agree with Inam's quote that Lorenzo is not hugely quicker like Pedrosa and Stoner have been in the past. I think he is just really consistent as a result of the quality of handling he gets from the Yamaha.
I think this tactic of block passing is what is missing in a lot of the races. I am not sure if it is due to the speed of corner entry or more to do with the impact it has on lap times on an 800. It wasn't a problem on the 990 because of the torque to punch it back out of the corner and therefore block passing was a big part of racing on the 990's. Spies seems to use this style of move in quite a few of his passing moves. Maybe the 800's will breed that out of him.
I think this tactic of block passing is what is missing in a lot of the races. I am not sure if it is due to the speed of corner entry or more to do with the impact it has on lap times on an 800. It wasn't a problem on the 990 because of the torque to punch it back out of the corner and therefore block passing was a big part of racing on the 990's. Spies seems to use this style of move in quite a few of his passing moves. Maybe the 800's will breed that out of him.
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Good observation. To me Spies uses his muscle to get some good braking passes done, when they bother to show him ride
I was thinking same about Stoner, and I don't see it changing sadly. If he starts running a Hard rear again we will know he is getting his "mojo" back with the bike.
Just saw the repeat. I majorly facepalm-ed when I saw Dani's early mistake but at least he made up for it by finishing 2nd. I'm still disappointed, though. He should have owned this race and it would have been brill for him to win at his "home" track.
Oh, and "no brakes" during that 1st corner? Daaaammmnnn, that must have been scary as heck. Fair play to him for taming the bike.
Oh, and "no brakes" during that 1st corner? Daaaammmnnn, that must have been scary as heck. Fair play to him for taming the bike.
To be honest I think Casey is going to struggle getting past either the Honda's or the Yamaha's this year.
They are down on power compared to last years screamer & watching the race he couldn't get close enough down the straight to get them on the brakes.
I agree with you. He can ride it at the same pace as the other 2 but doesn't seem to have an advantage on them that he can exploit in the corner, on the brakes or on the straights. But if you look at Rossi at Laguna in 08 he didn't seem to have any advantages but by block passing and stuffing up Stoners rhythm he prevailed. This is what I think Stoner will need to do if he is to come from behind. If he can get in front I reckon he could probably pull away a tenth or so a lap like Lorenzo is doing. Once he has some confidence I think we will see if he can duke it out on the GP10.
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Obviously you have your GP's sorted Rog. ie. When you are sitting there, on the couch, in front of the TV and someone blocks your line ( of view ) you either ignore it, or have a go at the offender. In any case I don't think its a simillar case because the speed differential, should your couch and the TV-view offender collide , would be pretty minimal with the worst injury likely only a coffee spill/cup cake disheveling/ or say a carpet burn.
But Casey Stoner is not racing on the couch like you so he is rightfully pissed at the guys waiting for a tow. Its a dangerous practice, especially as the fast guy approaches the slow guy because in there haste to get "on the back" quickly they invariably are narrowing the available racing line. Stoner was by no means the only guy complaining about it, and some guys even admitted they were doing it, eg. Bautista claimed thats how he got his "fast lap".
The only problem here is the perpetual problem you Boppers have with Stoner. Others complained, but who is it you guys wimper about ........
Don't feed Rog.'s stupidity you guys with his idiotic "links" to attempt to justify his stance against Stoner by some panzy arsed idiotic gripe. The fact is, Stoner still had a very legit reason to be pissed at them and had his say at what seems to be a growing problem over the last few rounds.
This isn't "couch racing", or "Magazine GP", its a dangerous sport, and these guys don't want to die doing it.
Gaz - you never cease to amaze me.
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