Joined Jul 2015
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Hurricane, WV
Could be a long second half of the season for the Duc’s as George collects podiums.
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Joined May 2009
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Shovel's Club
When I think ironic I think Ducati. Suck it Alanis Morissette and Lil Wallbanger
Joined Oct 2006
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Your Mom's House
Congrats Libby.
Mishitlin Accomplished. Making it interesting, can't tune out, someone might crash, 12+ fallers! Dovi 'crumbling' (22...). Ultimately Dovi cops total blame for crash, but it's a combo of pressure from Lorenzo, Mishitlin, and self-inflicted wound. Another gift podium for VR. Cuntslow and Rossi should get married. The 4th bike on podium, 2 .... on a bike. Honda probably can't believe their luck with the signing. And I'll add, the embrace with Jlo and Marc, i detected discomfort from Marc's body language in parc ferme including post race interview. Ducati's pendulum swing is stunning.
Nice tributes.
If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
Mishitlin Accomplished. Making it interesting, can't tune out, someone might crash, 12+ fallers! Dovi 'crumbling' (22...). Ultimately Dovi cops total blame for crash, but it's a combo of pressure from Lorenzo, Mishitlin, and self-inflicted wound. Another gift podium for VR. Cuntslow and Rossi should get married. The 4th bike on podium, 2 .... on a bike. Honda probably can't believe their luck with the signing. And I'll add, the embrace with Jlo and Marc, i detected discomfort from Marc's body language in parc ferme including post race interview. Ducati's pendulum swing is stunning.
Nice tributes.
If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
I do feel sorry for Dovi btw, looks like he was better without the expectation of being competitive for the win in every race and the onus on him from the big new contract he pushed for, when he snuck up on everyone by riding so excellently in the second half of last season.
Whatever anyone thinks of Jorge in general he is a tough, tough ......., and resilient to boot. Congrats to Libby (as well as Furiosa and Yamfan) from me as well.
It's funny how Jorge ignores Claudio in parc ferme.
Domenicali might be the most talented destruction specialist of all time.
Domenicali might be the most talented destruction specialist of all time.
Joined Sep 2015
734 Posts | 1K+
Office cubicle
Let me anticipate what will he say:
"we didn't have any grip" (yeah, surely that's the reason behind the horrendous starts)
"we thought we figured out the problem in the practices"
"we don't know why this is happening"
"we'll try to do better next race"
Just a broken record
Anyways, my take on the race is that Domenicali just ruined MGP for the next year. It will take a time for JL to get along with the Honda and MM will run away with another easy championship. We could have a real legendary battle the next season but alas, we will have to wait for 2020. Ducati should enjoy the next few years of mediocrity while having the best bike.
Joined Feb 2007
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Tennessee
Marc did exactly what he needed to do, run hard enough to see if he could force Lorenzo into an error or burn up the softs early. When he saw that wasn’t happening and Dovi falling out, he took more points off the current contenders. Dovi’s title chance is done and he has to be a little embarrassed that his form has fallen so drastically. Lorenzo is in his head as he is being reminded that Jorge is and always has been the superior rider and as I said after last year thought 2017 was the result of a perfect storm for Dovi and he would never replicate it. In the last 8 races he has a 50% dnf rate with 1 win. Not championship material. Once again Rossi is gifted a podium and the points Cruiser stays alive. Vinales is a head case
Joined Oct 2015
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Texas
Joined Oct 2015
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Texas
Joined Jun 2014
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United States
Simply put, Vinales clearly has a ton of talent but obviously is not a development rider and can't setup his bike for his life - I find it amazing that Rossi is obviously the development rider at this point. I think if Lorenzo was somehow his teammate there, he would be having a ton of success. His early 2017 form can't just be a complete fluke.
I have to say, I have really started to come hate Dovi as of late for a multitude of reasons. The biggest one being highlighted in the second half of your post, the fact that in pretty much his entire career since he started in around 2008, that was the ONE and ONLY time in his life that he has ever consistently pushed for and contended for GP wins - he wasn't even really that close to the championship in the end either after he choked to an almost satirical degree in Australia. And just that little over half a year of success really seems to have got to his head - and I'm not talking just about his on track performance.
While I admit I was also one of the many who were incorrect at this point last year at believing that Dovi was not a contender, isn't this also the same guy who got absolutely decimated by Dani Pedrosa while he was at Repsol Honda for years? The same guy who took years to actually have any real success at Ducati? The same guy who was riding a freaking satellite Yamaha right before that? And yet suddenly, from half a season of success at the top, he has managed to get big enough an ego to act like he is essential to the success of Ducati (which ironically only got good once Lorenzo came around)?
It just really pisses me off to see someone with such a short time at the top create all of this drama between himself and Lorenzo - that the bike isn't being developed the right way because Lorenzo is pushing development the wrong way and that Lorenzo is pretty much a ...... teammate and blah blah blah.
Well, when it comes to beating his teammate, he is obiously going to have an easier time of it next year. Have fun with Danilo ....... Petrucci, an overambitious rider who only even got into GP because a brokeass CRT team picked him up from World Superstock, who literally just burns all his rubber as soon as possible and hope he gains enough track position for it not to matter. He won't be able to develop the bike for .... like Lorenzo has (even tho you moaned about it going in the wrong direction). If beating his teammate and scoring what for him is a mega-contract is all that matters for Dovi, then he can have fun next year pushing for maybe 2 or 3 wins and making a ton of money to be a noncontender again for the rest of his life. I know a lot of people are blaming Domenicalli for this whole debacle with Jorge, but I can't help but feel that Dovi has had that same Fernando Alonso effect in the past couple of months where he is tearing an entire team apart in pursuit of only his own selfish interests.
Ducati thought after last year that they finally had a championship contender. And unfortunately they let him go.
/endrant
Anyways, as much as I criticize Ducati for letting Lorenzo go so early in the season and rushing instead to sign World Superstock Legend Danilo Petrucci, I was highly critical of Lorenzo after his clear debacle in Jerez and said that he was clearly pushing way too hard just to fight for the podium.
That being said, one fuel tank later and he is a consecutive race winner for Duc. I don't think I've cheered on one rider so hard in the past 10 years as I have in the past two for Jorge. It is also amazing to see that he has the pace at this track, after many wrote him off last week for being at a Ducati/Lorenzoesque track.
Keep it up buddy, and actually give Marquez a challenge for the title this year!
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George out plus spec IMU and restricted aero next year.
Enjoy fading back to midfield irrelevance, Dovi.
Enjoy fading back to midfield irrelevance, Dovi.
I couldn't agree more actually. To be honest, I never held Lorenzo in high regard even though I recognised his abilities, but this year he's starting to get me as one of his fans.
I just couldn't stand people writing him off and laughing at him, but even myself last year I didn't believe he could tame it. But he's done it. And it clicked in me, he's a remarkable person & rider.
Where he rode 2 days two days after shattering his clavicle and having it plated, and finished 5th after being more highly placed earlier in the race, presumably before the painkillers wore off. In the words of a famous Sicilian, inconceivable.
To me something would seem to have imprinted on his hind brain when he crashed and broke his clavicle again a few weeks later, and I strongly suspect it was the injury to his title chances rather than the second injury to his clavicle which hurt the most.
